Trade Pascal to Portland/Warriors?

[OAKLEY_2]

Reality: Jerami Grant, Thybulle, 2025 1st

Deal.

[Rapsfan07]

Said before and I'll say it again - I think Siakam would be an amazing fit on the Blazers. He would instantly be the best co-star Lillard's ever had.

However, it's going to take more than Siakam to get the Blazers into contention. And to get, they'll have to give so I can't see how they make all the improvements they need without moving Simons.

[Tor_Raps]

Siakam for their pick this year if its 2nd or 3rd and fillers.

Obviously I'm assuming the pick isn't 1st overall because no way they're trading that. Also don't think they don't have enough fillers to make a trade work there lol.

[bballsparkin]

Sharpe is in similar situation as SGA in LA. He's available for the right price.

Is Sharpe even good? He had a few big point games, but has largely been awful this season. He has potential to be good as he is skilled, but there's no guarantee he will end up decent.

I'd be more interested in this year's pick and any futures. Let them keep Sharpe.

[PhilBlackson]

Sharpe (by far my preference) or this year's pick has to obviously be at the center of the trade.

If it's Shaedon, I'd be good really with whatever fillers because I just think that kid has too much athleticism combined with coordination and shooting touch to fail long term but especially if he's developed here which would be a perfect hometown hero thing too. Really I even said at the time of the draft we should've traded OG for him when we had the chance but whatever...

Reality is though I think POR recognizes his potential too -- I think he's the guard version of Scottie for them, in the sense he's the hope for their future so I don't think they part with him and if anything would look to potentially off load Simons to clear the way for Shaedon + combine AS with this year's pick because there's still obviously a level of uncertainty (which should've been capitalized on last year with OG for Shaedon) but now might take even more of gamble with someone like Ausar and see if your development can take those obvious great physical traits & abilities and turn him into a star.

My obvious preference is try everything you can to get Shaedon first, if not trade him, draft Ausar then see how far you can develop him but at least you'd have 2 young guys who if developed may be stars.

[Appostis]

Reality: Jerami Grant, Thybulle, 2025 1st

Deal.

Pass.

You want to trade a Pascal in his prime to paid with another top 25 player... So you are trading Pascal for a **** FRP.

Wow..

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Pascal for KAT

Poeltl signed and traded to the Mavs for THJr and 10

[Mattatron]

Dame made his demands clear. That 2023 1st is being traded BEFORE the draft.

Portland going to trade dame instead of trading that pick. 100%

[mrdressup]

Why trade him when you could give him 1/5th of a billion dollars chasing a momentum change and languish in no-man's land. He doesn't smile any more. He should go where he can smile, which would be where he is in a secondary or tertiary role and does not have to score in the clutch. He'd be great in Milwaukee if they could move Middleton and plug him in. Boston could use him too. I'd look into a Jalen Brown trade if we're about to just shed a bunch of talent for nothing.

[refshateRaps]

Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal. Barnes progress would be a wildcard that could tilt us into a force

[YogurtProducer]

Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal.

TBH if you go for Dame you are moving Barnes for win-now pieces. No point half assing it if you go all in.

[refshateRaps]

Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal.

TBH if you go for Dame you are moving Barnes for win-now pieces. No point half assing it if you go all in.

Im good with that. We also dont have the full pallet of picks anymore so its likely if we do go for it

This could allow us to keep GTJ


Dame
GTJ
OG
Pascal
Poeltl

Umm ya. LFG. Masai & Bobby would be can flush coaches down the toilet for all I care if this was our team next season.

[PoundTown]

Dame made his demands clear. That 2023 1st is being traded BEFORE the draft.

Portland going to trade dame instead of trading that pick. 100%

I would if I were them, but they can't seem to fathom getting rid of their golden boy even though it is the only logical move for them to sell him off while he still has some value and start the rebuild. There is just no way they can keep Dame and be good in the near future.

[ciueli]

Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal. Barnes progress would be a wildcard that could tilt us into a force

Because if we spend 2/3rd of our salary cap on two players (nearly $100M/year), we don't have the money to surround them with anything? And one of those guys is heading into his year 33 season and plays no defence?

[refshateRaps]

Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal. Barnes progress would be a wildcard that could tilt us into a force

Because if we spend 2/3rd of our salary cap on two players (nearly $100M/year), we don't have the money to surround them with anything? And one of those guys is heading into his year 33 season and plays no defence?

OK. Well the alternative sucks far more

[ciueli]

Why not sign and trade FVV + GTJ + picks for Dame?

Dame
Vet shooter/OG
OG/Barnes
Pascal/Barnes
Poeltl


We right there with Pascal. Barnes progress would be a wildcard that could tilt us into a force

Because if we spend 2/3rd of our salary cap on two players (nearly $100M/year), we don't have the money to surround them with anything? And one of those guys is heading into his year 33 season and plays no defence?

OK. Well the alternative sucks far more

The trade you’re floating is impossible anyway because Portland isn’t trading their star player for a worse player at the same position and a bench shooter. We are limited in the picks we could include because we already owe a protected first. If they trade Dame it will be for rebuilding pieces, not our disappointing players who aren’t even under contract.

[refshateRaps]

Because if we spend 2/3rd of our salary cap on two players (nearly $100M/year), we don't have the money to surround them with anything? And one of those guys is heading into his year 33 season and plays no defence?

OK. Well the alternative sucks far more

The trade you’re floating is impossible anyway because Portland isn’t trading their star player for a worse player at the same position and a bench shooter. We are limited in the picks we could include because we already owe a protected first. If they trade Dame it will be for rebuilding pieces, not our disappointing players who aren’t even under contract.

Depends? Also I feel Barnes would be traded in a deal here as well, which make sense for both teams. Same goes for us, we are not trading Pascal unless rebuilding for picks and youth

FVV salary could make it easier to facilitate a trade like this.

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End poster on this site needs to understand that suggesting a Siakam trade is not because you don't believe he is a very talented player but more because he and Barnes are direct overlaps and along with Yak create a serious spacing issue. Masai mentioned team fit being a problem and this is problem #. Barnes's game never improved because his stats were almost the same and that 100% because he and Siakam feast in the paint and neither is a great 3 point shooter. Add to the problem that Siakam is expecting a serious bump in salary and this is why you cannot have a bench and at the same time your highest paid player and top option is not elite enough to carry a team. We missed the playoffs twice in 3 seasons and last year got in because the Raptors went on a roll right at the time teams were playing G-LEAGUE players. Even reports on the executive talking about Siakam, he can get you points but he won't won you games and we have seen this. Not closer and it's time to move in an another direction before his play really drops as he enters his 30's and he is not worth anything because of the size of his monster max deal.

Siakam fanboys need to start thinking about the team, sorry but the Bulls have no wing defenders so that 32 points when you go to the line 11 is not that impressive and then you include missing 2 of 3 miss have FT'S . Enough with the excuses and time to move towards OG/Barnes and Yak starting front court and maybe we trade Siakam to the HAWKS for Murray & Griffin and he becomes our starting PG. From there we can resign Trent and starting 5 is :

Barnes
OG
YAK
Trent
Murray


Griffin
Precious
Boucher
Dowtin
First rounder from Hawks
Raptors first rounder

Siakam/Flynn for Murray/Griffin and 2 first rounders including one in 2023 & 2024

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They have the picks but I think their missing that one young player that would interest the Blazers if they really were serious about moving Lillard