What to do with Bruce Brown

Potential · Post #101 » by **Potential** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:47 am

Ngl I don't mind keeping him he looks like he could fit well in this offense. Unless we get great offers this trade deadline then yeah

Appostis · Post #102 » by **Appostis** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 6:54 am

truballer_101 wrote:
MA29 wrote:

You cant package him with another player when trading him again... You can only trade him by himself

I believe more can come back but yeah just Brown unless they did a 3(well 4 way) trade.

mihaic · Post #103 » by **mihaic** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:06 am

Appostis wrote:
truballer_101 wrote:
MA29 wrote:

You cant package him with another player when trading him again... You can only trade him by himself

I believe more can come back but yeah just Brown unless they did a 3(well 4 way) trade.

That trade works broken down in 2 separate trades

Appostis · Post #104 » by **Appostis** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:09 am

mihaic wrote:
Appostis wrote:
truballer_101 wrote:You cant package him with another player when trading him again... You can only trade him by himself

I believe more can come back but yeah just Brown unless they did a 3(well 4 way) trade.

That trade works broken down in 2 separate trades

Show your workings then instead of posting a illegal trade :nod:

CazOnReal · Post #105 » by **CazOnReal** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:26 am

truballer_101 wrote:
MA29 wrote:

You cant package him with another player when trading him again... You can only trade him by himself

Yes and no

He can technically be included with other players...but only if a given trade can be done with separate trades aggregated as one. Otherwise, he has to be sent out on his own/with draft capital.

Using the above as an example, moving Wiseman + Ausur for Trent + 2nd then Joe for Brown would work and therefore can be aggregated since the moves can work individually

T_saurus · Post #106 » by **T_saurus** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:11 am

Unless we get a mid to high first rounder I think we should keep him. We need a competent bench mob

mkot · Post #107 » by **mkot** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:51 am

We have no dawg in this team, right?

Brucey B got a lot of dawg in him

I wouldn't send him to a contender just because, it might be better for us to keep him for this season, pick up his option for next season and see if we can get full value of him.

mkot · Post #108 » by **mkot** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 10:55 am

T_saurus wrote:Unless we get a mid to high first rounder I think we should keep him. We need a competent bench mob

I'd bench GTJ's ass and start Schröder and Bruce at the backcourt. Bruce can play stagger minute as the ball handler too.

OAKLEY_2 · Post #109 » by **OAKLEY_2** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:41 am

mkot wrote:
T_saurus wrote:Unless we get a mid to high first rounder I think we should keep him. We need a competent bench mob

I'd bench GTJ's ass and start Schröder and Bruce at the backcourt. Bruce can play stagger minute as the ball handler too.

Gary being an expiring is probably already seen as too expensive so moving Gary (goodbye shooting) and keeping Brown is not far fetched. Masai says he won't use all his picks. Well, grabbing the 6th is probably smart vs. "trying to win". Let's see what Scottie can do but this is a time to restock. Would be good to make all the picks and flip em on draft night.

dTox · Post #110 » by **dTox** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 1:17 pm

C_Money wrote:
dTox wrote:
Bruin wrote:Need a 2025 pick
Pascal got us 3 first round picks, I don't think Bruce is going to get you 2 first. If lucky, a late first.

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Then whats the point? Might as well keep him.

I'm honestly open to anything at this point, Masai has a history of trading well, it's one of his strengths (except for that Siakam trade lol). I trust that if he does make a move with Bruce, it'll be for good cause.

SpezNc · Post #111 » by **SpezNc** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:01 pm

aminiaturebuddha wrote:I think I'd prefer to keep Brown. What would we really get for him? At best, another late 1st round pick from a contender? Do we really need that now that we've got 5 of them over the next 3 years (plus the 31st pick this year)?

On the other hand, what the team does need is competent players around Scottie, RJ, and Quickley who work hard, know their roles, and don't make many mistakes. Developing teams especially need guys like that. It doesn't do Scottie any favours in his development if his great passes are getting constantly fumbled out of bounds or guys aren't cutting to the right places or not making the right swing passes and taking away the advantages he creates.

FRP is a currency and you can aggregate their value in a futur trade. If you want to do a futur blockbuster deal where you are the buyer it help to have a boat load of picks .

I would trade at least one maybe two of Brown , Schroeder, Trent Jr for future picks (ideally not in 2024)

Or package let’s say Brown and our lower 2024 pick for a lottery protected future FRP.

Another option would be to trade Brown for a boat load of 2RP. Can always be useful in a trade.

Or you can use multiple 2024 FRP to advance in the draft

Getting picks = get you flexibility

ATLTimekeeper · Post #112 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:09 pm

The guy showed up at noon and knew how to play with several guys already, and then we have Jalen McDaniels who still looks like he doesn't know anyone's name on the team.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #113 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:11 pm

I think at least one of Brown/Schroder/GTJ is gone before the deadline. Bruce looks like a really nice fit, but he could really be in demand at this trade deadline in a way that he probably won't be in the summer. I don't know what kind of deals are out there for the other two, but if you can get a nice young player and/or pick for him without affecting future flexibility... I think we'd lean towards that so we have the asset cupboard ready for the next big deal.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #114 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:22 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:I think at least one of Brown/Schroder/GTJ is gone before the deadline. Bruce looks like a really nice fit, but he could really be in demand at this trade deadline in a way that he probably won't be in the summer. I don't know what kind of deals are out there for the other two, but if you can get a nice young player and/or pick for him without affecting future flexibility... I think we'd lean towards that so we have the asset cupboard ready for the next big deal.

It's kind of an interesting litmus, like if the team is serious about just losing they should dump him but if Masai is serious about teaching players how to win then he fits in well. He's not old.

OakleyDokely · Post #115 » by **OakleyDokely** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:41 pm

Unless a team offers something good like a 1st or a good prospect, there's no rush to deal him. You still have that team option in your back pocket.

vulture · Post #116 » by **vulture** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:50 pm

I think they keep him. Darko loves him and he fits well with Scottie and IQ.

anotherhomer · Post #117 » by **anotherhomer** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:54 pm

vulture wrote:I think they keep him. Darko loves him and he fits well with Scottie and IQ.

he's a good fit but a bit undersized to play SF and PF

ATLTimekeeper · Post #118 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:59 pm

anotherhomer wrote:
vulture wrote:I think they keep him. Darko loves him and he fits well with Scottie and IQ.

he's a good fit but a bit undersized to play SF and PF

Scottie is PF-size, though. RJ is SF-size. With Poeltl there's good length in that SL.

vulture · Post #119 » by **vulture** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:16 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:
vulture wrote:I think they keep him. Darko loves him and he fits well with Scottie and IQ.

he's a good fit but a bit undersized to play SF and PF

Scottie is PF-size, though. RJ is SF-size. With Poeltl there's good length in that SL.

Yes he's just versatile and you need a guy like him at SG to guard up and down.
Obviously if a team makes you a great offer then you move him, but he's a great fit.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #120 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:25 pm

vulture wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:
he's a good fit but a bit undersized to play SF and PF

Scottie is PF-size, though. RJ is SF-size. With Poeltl there's good length in that SL.

Yes he's just versatile and you need a guy like him at SG to guard up and down.
Obviously if a team makes you a great offer then you move him, but he's a great fit.

These guys are hard to find. It's funny that there was a cult of fans that wanted OG to stay here with Scottie because it 'fit his timeline' and Bruce is just one year older (and cheaper) and provides a similar impact. I'd like to keep him, but again, I don't think losing a lot is a good recipe for winning a lot.