2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[Grew]

Need Dadiet with one of the picks. We need some Dadi-Dick combo in our lives. Too good to pass up.

[PhilBlackson]

You'd have to dig through the previous draft thread but it showed all the players we've scouting and the obvious majority were wings.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

So far the Raptors have held workouts with the following players:

Kel'el Ware, C (top 20)
Joseph Bediako, C (undrafted)

Jonathan Mgobo, PF (2nd round)
Coleman Hawkins, PF (2nd round)
Josh Oduro, PF (undrafted)

Jaylon Tyson, SF (late first/early 2nd)
Dillon Jones, SF (late first/early 2nd)

Reece Beekman, PG (undrafted)
Joseph Girard III, PG (undrafted)

Of the nine (9) prospects we've held workouts with so far, only two of them have been wings and those who were aren't projected to be picked in the range of our #19 pick.

That's just who they brought in, they're also on record scouting (as going to see their workouts) Holland, Williams, Saluan etc not to mention most PFs actually play as wings in today's game. Which there is a far heavier concentration than the no name PGs who we clearly won't draft at 19 and only one big (Ware) who might be in the running for the 19th.

As I said if I suddenly see a glut of PGs or Cs come in, then I obviously stand corrected but right now the focus seems to be on finding a bigger wing which Masai stressed as his TOP need going into the off-season and there are no good FAs at the spot that weren't previously on our roster lol

[DreamTeam09]

Ware TDS Carrington

One of these 3 should be a Raptor.

[tecumseh18]

I'm seeing a lot of Edey buzz on my X timeline. I don't think he will fall to 19.

[Psubs]

Ware TDS Carrington

One of these 3 should be a Raptor.

Could TDS drop to #31 due to age and lack of athleticism? Dallas picked up Gafford and Jones, so maybe teams keep on grabbing athletes.

[DreamTeam09]

Ware TDS Carrington

One of these 3 should be a Raptor.

Could TDS drop to #31 due to age and lack of athleticism? Dallas picked up Gafford and Jones, so maybe teams keep on grabbing athletes.

No way he drops to the 2nd round. Teams like taking SRs now. Less development time, prime yrs on 2nd contract instead of 3rd. The playoff teams in the 20s would take him.

[SpezNc]

Jeez! Another of my faves returning. Jaylen Wells and Jalen Bridges moving up my board for wings at 31

Read on Twitter

If anything I think this makes our pick 31 more attractive. There is less depth in the 2nd round with Clifford, Watkins, Sallis withdrawal.

[PushDaRock]

Mogbo is one of the more interesting players to me in this draft. Very unique skillset with that passing ability (impressive 2:1 A/TO) at his size along with being a lob threat which this team is missing and the FT shooting improvement is something that gives hope to developing a jumper eventually. If Masai went back to his roots so to speak, this would be his type of pick as an older late bloomer.

[dohboy_24]

That's just who they brought in, they're also on record scouting (as going to see their workouts) Holland, Williams, Saluan etc not to mention most PFs actually play as wings in today's game.

Yes, the FO are going to be attending lots of the Pro days and other workouts they are given access to watch and observe.

Which there is a far heavier concentration than the no name PGs who we clearly won't draft at 19 and only one big (Ware) who might be in the running for the 19th.

As I said if I suddenly see a glut of PGs or Cs come in, then I obviously stand corrected but right now the focus seems to be on finding a bigger wing which Masai stressed as his TOP need going into the off-season and there are no good FAs at the spot that weren't previously on our roster lol

I agree they are unlikely to target a point guard even if prospects like Devin Carter, Jared McCain, or Isaiah Collier are available, but if more of an off-guard/wing like Ja'Kobe Walter or Bub Carrington were still on the board when they pick, they would likely be in consideration since they could better compliment our current roster and form part of a 3 guard rotation with IQ and Gradey.

Aside from those guard/wing prospects, some of the bigger wings/forwards that could still be available at #19 who could ultimately play alongside IQ, Gradey and Scottie would be: Tidjane Salaun, Tristan daSilva, Tyler Smith, Johnny Furphy, Kyshawn George, Bobi Klintman

So far we haven't had any of them in for a private workout yet, but there's still lots of time left to take a closer look.

[Syd-TK3]

You'd have to dig through the previous draft thread but it showed all the players we've scouting and the obvious majority were wings.

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

So far the Raptors have held workouts with the following players:

Kel'el Ware, C (top 20)
Joseph Bediako, C (undrafted)

Jonathan Mgobo, PF (2nd round)
Coleman Hawkins, PF (2nd round)
Josh Oduro, PF (undrafted)

Jaylon Tyson, SF (late first/early 2nd)
Dillon Jones, SF (late first/early 2nd)

Reece Beekman, PG (undrafted)
Joseph Girard III, PG (undrafted)

Of the nine (9) prospects we've held workouts with so far, only two of them have been wings and those who were aren't projected to be picked in the range of our #19 pick.

That's just who they brought in, they're also on record scouting (as going to see their workouts) Holland, Williams, Saluan etc not to mention most PFs actually play as wings in today's game. Which there is a far heavier concentration than the no name PGs who we clearly won't draft at 19 and only one big (Ware) who might be in the running for the 19th.

As I said if I suddenly see a glut of PGs or Cs come in, then I obviously stand corrected but right now the focus seems to be on finding a bigger wing which Masai stressed as his TOP need going into the off-season and there are no good FAs at the spot that weren't previously on our roster lol

To be fair Masai never specifically said what their top need was. He mentioned the draft being a best talent available first and foremost, then listed off team needs in order of backup pg, wing then big
Start at 26:25
https://www.youtube.com/live/7Osjme7mEqw?si=rgTBGisOX-00FTVf

[mihaic]

Edey's problem with Scottie is that Scottie needs to run because he can't create well for himself in the half court, and Edey needs the ball walked up the court so that he can get there. It's not an ideal fit. The reason to take Edey is he might translate and be good enough to build a team around, with the second reason he is the BPA at 19 in a draft where there's probably only 10 guys worth remember in 10 years.

I still think Edey will go between 8-15.

I agree. But Edey doesn't need to play more than 24 minutes, they should coexist for 10 at less effi iency.

Edey can become dominant if he gets a 3 in high pick and roll. Paired with Scottie, if he is taught to shoot with a high release he will be a killer like Porzingis++. Then when Scottie is out resting, you put Edey in the low post. Make sure Dick is in his spot, him and IQ could be deadly if they collapse on Edey.

I'd spend the 19th pick without hesitation, in case it may pan out.

Plus I think Edey is almost my neighbour (no I don't know him).

[MEDIC]

I really REALLY hope we don't waste either of our picks on Da Silva.

I want to like Carrington so bad but I don't know... I think it's the fact that he doesn't really take contact and we already have a PG in Quickley who generates most of his offense from the behind the arc. I really want a guard that's a little more scrappy, quick and tough and can get into the middle of the defense. It's why I fell in love with Carter from the get go but I imagine he's probably lottery bound at this point.

De Silva is nice. He'd be a good fit here,

I know he'd be a good "fit", that's the whole reason I explained why I think they will take him. Fit over BPA because they want to be more "competitive" sooner than later.

I am totally fine with it. I have said before that they can't afford to come away from this draft empty.

If they come away from the draft with a couple of high end role.players/ potential starters, I think its a win. You have useful inexpensive players and draft capital.

If they come away with a couple of busts, it's going to set this franchise back. They are on a very deliberate timeline. They have to continually get better over the next few years if they want to compete in the East (and by doing so, keeping Scottie interested in being here long term).

Right now they need solid young players that will grow with the core & help the team get better..

I think next years draft is a better time to swing for the fences. At that point, we will be looking further down the road.

[SpezNc]

That's just who they brought in

The draft is still one month away. Many more workouts to come.

Last year Gradey was brought in after Dario was hired.

Too close to take any conclusion with the preliminary list of players we’ve working out !

[Psubs]

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

So far the Raptors have held workouts with the following players:

Kel'el Ware, C (top 20)
Joseph Bediako, C (undrafted)

Jonathan Mgobo, PF (2nd round)
Coleman Hawkins, PF (2nd round)
Josh Oduro, PF (undrafted)

Jaylon Tyson, SF (late first/early 2nd)
Dillon Jones, SF (late first/early 2nd)

Reece Beekman, PG (undrafted)
Joseph Girard III, PG (undrafted)

Of the nine (9) prospects we've held workouts with so far, only two of them have been wings and those who were aren't projected to be picked in the range of our #19 pick.

That's just who they brought in, they're also on record scouting (as going to see their workouts) Holland, Williams, Saluan etc not to mention most PFs actually play as wings in today's game. Which there is a far heavier concentration than the no name PGs who we clearly won't draft at 19 and only one big (Ware) who might be in the running for the 19th.

As I said if I suddenly see a glut of PGs or Cs come in, then I obviously stand corrected but right now the focus seems to be on finding a bigger wing which Masai stressed as his TOP need going into the off-season and there are no good FAs at the spot that weren't previously on our roster lol

To be fair Masai never specifically said what their top need was. He mentioned the draft being a best talent available first and foremost, then listed off team needs in order of backup pg, wing then big
Start at 26:25
https://www.youtube.com/live/7Osjme7mEqw?si=rgTBGisOX-00FTVf

Watching games down the stretch it was clearly backup guard. Getting one with size that can play along side IQ would be a boon.I guess any PG under 6'4 would be blocked by IQ. So yall know I want Bub.

[WuTang_CMB]

I think Raps will pivot on Big/Wing or Wing/Big depending on who's on the board. Could even be PG/Big if someone falls.

If Edey is there at 19, still think they take him. Too many check marks for me and a Toronto kid. They are going to like that he loves basketball and always wants to get better. If he's not there and they have TDS/Tyson ahead of the other bigs, could see them going that route at 19 too.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

It'll be funny if we lose our pick, trading for a C...only to move up and draft Edey.

[DG88]

Updated ESPN mock draft from Givony and Woo

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/page/NBADraft24-40245844/2024-nba-mock-draft-predictions-all-58-picks-ncaa-early-entry-withdrawal-deadline

19. Kyshawn George
31. Tyler Smith

Interesting but of info for DaRon Holmes fans

Sources told ESPN Holmes recently canceled several workouts, raising strong suspicions that he has secured a guarantee in the back part of the first round. Coming off a productive career at Dayton in which he made strides as a shooter (38% from 3 last season), Holmes appears to have helped himself in the pre-draft process, moving himself into the first-round picture.

On the Hoopshype workout tracker we worked out Scottie's boy Jonathan Mogbo

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

[WuTang_CMB]

Updated ESPN mock draft from Givony and Woo

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/page/NBADraft24-40245844/2024-nba-mock-draft-predictions-all-58-picks-ncaa-early-entry-withdrawal-deadline

19. Kyshawn George
31. Tyler Smith

Interesting but of info for DaRon Holmes fans

Sources told ESPN Holmes recently canceled several workouts, raising strong suspicions that he has secured a guarantee in the back part of the first round. Coming off a productive career at Dayton in which he made strides as a shooter (38% from 3 last season), Holmes appears to have helped himself in the pre-draft process, moving himself into the first-round picture.

On the Hoopshype workout tracker we worked out Scottie's boy Jonathan Mogbo

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

I dont like either pick

Holmes getting a DEN promise makes sense.

[Mark_83]

Based on who the Raptors are reported to have worked out or scouted I would probably go with Tyson and Ware. Take Ware at 19 and hope Tyson makes it to 31. If not then I'd look at George or Djurisic. George reminds me of Banton but with more advanced shooting ability.

[grant101]

Updated ESPN mock draft from Givony and Woo

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/page/NBADraft24-40245844/2024-nba-mock-draft-predictions-all-58-picks-ncaa-early-entry-withdrawal-deadline

19. Kyshawn George
31. Tyler Smith

Interesting but of info for DaRon Holmes fans

Sources told ESPN Holmes recently canceled several workouts, raising strong suspicions that he has secured a guarantee in the back part of the first round. Coming off a productive career at Dayton in which he made strides as a shooter (38% from 3 last season), Holmes appears to have helped himself in the pre-draft process, moving himself into the first-round picture.

On the Hoopshype workout tracker we worked out Scottie's boy Jonathan Mogbo

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-draft-workouts-tracker/

I dont like either pick

Holmes getting a DEN promise makes sense.

Picking George with Collier and Holmes on the board would piss me all the way off. Tyler Smith at 31 is a nice swing, however. I like him much better there than at 19!