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Too small . We need length
VJ doesn't have the greatest self creation potential but there is at least some multidimensionality he can add with a dribble j over time and with his rim volume increases in layup% (which is something that many players can improve over time) should guarantee he's a neutral player on offense at worst.
Anyone expecting him to be like a SG version of de'andre hunter will be in for a rude awakening. Vj is a **** disturber on the court with some solid tools to work with on the offensive end to grow his halfcourt game.
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Thaddy wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Thaddy wrote:He's going to be a bust. He has poor positional skills and size. I have McNeeley being the better player long term on both sides of the floor. People love the athleticism but it's not going to do anything for him in the league.
mcneeley is going to be scrubbing toilets in 6 years while vj is in the nba playoffs
McNeeley is a Kispert with better defense. There is a spot for him on any team in the league. Edgecombe is going to be ''developed'' his entire rookie deal, signed to a large dumb deal, and then rot on a bench somewhere. If you knew how to read stats you would see that McNeeley is the best stationary shooter in the draft.
Is McNeeley going to be much better than Gradey or Jameson Battle?

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Psubs wrote:Thaddy wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
mcneeley is going to be scrubbing toilets in 6 years while vj is in the nba playoffs
McNeeley is a Kispert with better defense. There is a spot for him on any team in the league. Edgecombe is going to be ''developed'' his entire rookie deal, signed to a large dumb deal, and then rot on a bench somewhere. If you knew how to read stats you would see that McNeeley is the best stationary shooter in the draft.
Is McNeeley going to be much better than Gradey or Jameson Battle?
Most would argue yes, McNeely is bigger than him and can guard up and down from PG to PF. He's also projected as a higher pick in a stronger draft.
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Ell Curry wrote:Watching the Florida-Auburn game and the Haugh kid - a sophomore - I've never heard of just jumped comically high. And he's shooting 82% from the line? I don't think he's on the radar for this draft (though apparently was the #42 player on 247) but if you can run, jump and shoot at 6'9. He's really active. Shooting 30% from 3, but the FT numbers are better long-term anyways. Doesn't seem like he's looking to score much, so kind of a white Mogbo deal where he might be a useful NBA player if he can hit a corner 3.
Fun game, just turned it on 5 minutes ago. Makes the Michigan-Indiana game I watch look comically unathletic.
Pettiford looks really quick and like has a nice handle. He's small, though.
Can see why Condon has fans. Much more fluid than Broome, who is statistically the best player in the country. And he makes decisions quickly. Great handle and passing for a center. Add like 20 pounds and that's an intriguing center prospect. Right now he looks like he'd get bullied. Not sure how you project if a guy can put on weight, but he already looks way more talented than a similar player like Ighodaro.
Just a huge gap between last year's draft and this year's draft. The Nets having 4 firsts might really bring them a starter or 2 and a couple good bench guys. I wonder if we can still grab another first in an RJ deal.
I guess his frame, shoulder width. Well he plays water polo and Aussie Rules Football (drafted by the AFL), so the endurance and toughness with contact is there.
I couldn't watch the game, but the stats looked like he played Broome at least even. I like the 4 assists (2 tos). I would now mock him at least just before Broome. Broome might be a bigger Taj Gibson level player.

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Star player.
Older guys looking for you in a moment of need, finding you, getting the f**k out the way so you can work.
Jersey hanging out, smooth cross into the jump shot, and 1!
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VJ doesn't have the greatest self creation potential but there is at least some multidimensionality he can add with a dribble j over time and with his rim volume increases in layup% (which is something that many players can improve over time) should guarantee he's a neutral player on offense at worst.
Anyone expecting him to be like a SG version of de'andre hunter will be in for a rude awakening. Vj is a **** disturber on the court with some solid tools to work with on the offensive end to grow his halfcourt game.
He's seems like a mini Derozan that can already shoot the college 3 well and get lots of STOCKS on defense. Maybe Derozan in Agbaji's frame?

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Thanks man!!!
Why would anyone draft Maluach over and Ivisic? Just because of age?
We need Wemby stoppers and right now we have none (that are ready aka Chomche).
Condon and the Ivisic's can hit the 3 and are big enough.
#6 Florida taking down #1 Auburn at Auburn is huge! This March Madness is going to be the most BONKERS tourney ever.
Zvonimir is shooting over 40% from 3, while Davis and Wagner shoot like 33 and 31% and go 1 for 9 from deep.
Wow, look at the fake and side step 3 like Wemby!!!
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=43756111

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TNRaps4life wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:Star player.
Older guys looking for you in a moment of need, finding you, getting the f**k out the way so you can work.
Jersey hanging out, smooth cross into the jump shot, and 1!
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Too small . We need length
VJ doesn't have the greatest self creation potential but there is at least some multidimensionality he can add with a dribble j over time and with his rim volume increases in layup% (which is something that many players can improve over time) should guarantee he's a neutral player on offense at worst.
Anyone expecting him to be like a SG version of de'andre hunter will be in for a rude awakening. Vj is a **** disturber on the court with some solid tools to work with on the offensive end to grow his halfcourt game.
yes go draft a guy longer than vj with 0.5x his ORB%, STL% and BLK% let me know how that goes.
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Thanks man!!!![]()
Why would anyone draft Maluach over and Ivisic? Just because of age?
We need Wemby stoppers and right now we have none (that are ready aka Chomche).
Condon and the Ivisic's can hit the 3 and are big enough.
#6 Florida taking down #1 Auburn at Auburn is huge! This March Madness is going to be the most BONKERS tourney ever.
Zvonimir is shooting over 40% from 3, while Davis and Wagner shoot like 33 and 31% and go 1 for 9 from deep.Fland is hurt but really only Z should be shooting 3's on that team.
Wow, look at the fake and side step 3 like Wemby!!!![]()
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=43756111
Lol I hear i am a fan too I'd be all for drafting him with the Portland pick

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Syd-TK3 wrote:Psubs wrote:
Thanks man!!!![]()
Why would anyone draft Maluach over and Ivisic? Just because of age?
We need Wemby stoppers and right now we have none (that are ready aka Chomche).
Condon and the Ivisic's can hit the 3 and are big enough.
#6 Florida taking down #1 Auburn at Auburn is huge! This March Madness is going to be the most BONKERS tourney ever.
Zvonimir is shooting over 40% from 3, while Davis and Wagner shoot like 33 and 31% and go 1 for 9 from deep.Fland is hurt but really only Z should be shooting 3's on that team.
Wow, look at the fake and side step 3 like Wemby!!!![]()
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=43756111
Lol I hear i am a fan too I'd be all for drafting him with the Portland pick
Heck, heck remember Quinten Post from last draft that GS picked up and is now their starting C. He was a 5 year senior, after transferring after his 3rd year, he shot over 40% from 3 his last 2 years.
I would tell his agent if he goes undrafted we'll give him a 3 year deal to turn pro.
Tomislav is the more prolific twin playing with Jakucionus but he's more like Post, with less blocks. Z is more like a 7'2 Boucher, which I would love to have. Condon and Z is all I want if we don't get a top 4 pick. I'm cool to trade down to get a 2nd pick 1st pick to secure those 2.
Oh, I have a comp for Z, it's Porzingis but may be 2 years behind him in development. I feel like he would be better in the pro game with bigger competitors rather than other college teams playing with essentially 4 guards and a PF, thus Calipari running small ball. He should be playing Z and making teams adjust to them.
Right now he seems soft because he's skinny but he get blocks and dunks. I just really like his confidence, he does things without hesitating. He has a good feel.

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:TNRaps4life wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
Too small . We need length
VJ doesn't have the greatest self creation potential but there is at least some multidimensionality he can add with a dribble j over time and with his rim volume increases in layup% (which is something that many players can improve over time) should guarantee he's a neutral player on offense at worst.
Anyone expecting him to be like a SG version of de'andre hunter will be in for a rude awakening. Vj is a **** disturber on the court with some solid tools to work with on the offensive end to grow his halfcourt game.
yes go draft a guy longer than vj with 0.5x his ORB%, STL% and BLK% let me know how that goes.
Yup, it's the combination of those 3 things plus his AST% for me. It's been there consistently for him too.
He's been on this Athleticism x Feel query all season long.
A couple of other notable prospects in this draft currently just miss the cut, but have been on that query at points this season and could very well still end up on it: Cooper Flagg and Thomas Sorber (both just short on STL%).
My Masai/Bobby-type FRP Barttorvik queries: 4/4, zero misses
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Brinbe wrote:That draft next year is gonna be generational...
Yeah i fear we were a year too soon....This class is good but these 2 look like legit franchise players.

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Brinbe wrote:That draft next year is gonna be generational...
IMO if you combined the 2025 and 2026 draft classes, the top 4 would be Cameron Boozer/AJ Dybantsa/Cooper Flagg/Darryn Peterson in no particular order. 3/4 of them are at the top of next year's draft.
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Nice close out on the pick and pop to start the game, forcing a Broome miss.
@1:21 Florida gives up a steal but Condon runs as fast as guard for the block!
@1:30 Stuck in the high post, makes a nice back door pass setting up an open dunk in the halfcourt!
@1:49 Jay Bilas notes that Alex is such an outstanding offensive rebounder.
@5:48 OMG he gets the offensive rebound with contact and puts back the layup then hits him with the "too small" Aussie edge
@9:48 intercepts a pass on a semi-break, then a spin-move to avoid the reach defender at the 3pt line for a pass which the reverse was blown.
Wow, Condon boxes out on the OFFENSIVE end when he gets position.


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Clutch0z24 wrote:Brinbe wrote:That draft next year is gonna be generational...
Yeah i fear we were a year too soon....This class is good but these 2 look like legit franchise players.
Would have loved to be bad next year for this draft class. It's even better than 2025.

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If we're not in the top 4, I think I'm going with Khaman.
I know some will flame it idgaf lol to each their own who's their favorite pick. But I think his potential is as good as anyone's outside the top 4 and his raw skill set is almost exactly what we need at the position (size, lob threat, good at finishing around the basket in general and of course signs of an outside shot, good FT percentage which is a further encouraging sign for his jumper long term).
7'2 with a 7'6 wingspan and probably will be around 270pds around his prime, that just doesn't grow on trees. But there is A LOT there for them to work with him and if there's any place that prides themselves (rightfully so) and their development and likely to get the best out of him, it's here so I'd like to take that shot. He could be an absolute monster if he reaches anywhere near his potential but at bare minimum you've found your long term starter to replace Yak who is obv not quite on the same timeline but also presents the IDEAL fit as he may not develop into an Embiid level player BUT if he just gets better at things he already does (again rim running, finishing around the basket & able to knock down open jumpers) that would completely change the dynamics on the court for guys like Scottie & RJ to get to the rim easier and everyone to work in a clearer mid-range (for SB & BI). Plus I think we're gonna need REAL size (pause) to handle Mobley/Allen, Giannis, Embiid, Paolo/Franz, Tatum/Kristaps, going forward.
I know some will flame it idgaf lol to each their own who's their favorite pick. But I think his potential is as good as anyone's outside the top 4 and his raw skill set is almost exactly what we need at the position (size, lob threat, good at finishing around the basket in general and of course signs of an outside shot, good FT percentage which is a further encouraging sign for his jumper long term).
7'2 with a 7'6 wingspan and probably will be around 270pds around his prime, that just doesn't grow on trees. But there is A LOT there for them to work with him and if there's any place that prides themselves (rightfully so) and their development and likely to get the best out of him, it's here so I'd like to take that shot. He could be an absolute monster if he reaches anywhere near his potential but at bare minimum you've found your long term starter to replace Yak who is obv not quite on the same timeline but also presents the IDEAL fit as he may not develop into an Embiid level player BUT if he just gets better at things he already does (again rim running, finishing around the basket & able to knock down open jumpers) that would completely change the dynamics on the court for guys like Scottie & RJ to get to the rim easier and everyone to work in a clearer mid-range (for SB & BI). Plus I think we're gonna need REAL size (pause) to handle Mobley/Allen, Giannis, Embiid, Paolo/Franz, Tatum/Kristaps, going forward.
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condon could be like a **** hartenstein, would need to take a big TS% jump to be as good
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PhilBlackson wrote:If we're not in the top 4, I think I'm going with Khaman.
I know some will flame it idgaf lol to each their own who's their favorite pick. But I think his potential is as good as anyone's outside the top 4 and his raw skill set is almost exactly what we need at the position (size, lob threat, good at finishing around the basket in general and of course signs of an outside shot, good FT percentage which is a further encouraging sign for his jumper long term).
7'2 with a 7'6 wingspan and probably will be around 270pds around his prime, that just doesn't grow on trees. But there is A LOT there for them to work with him and if there's any place that prides themselves (rightfully so) and their development and likely to get the best out of him, it's here so I'd like to take that shot. He could be an absolute monster if he reaches anywhere near his potential but at bare minimum you've found your long term starter to replace Yak who is obv not quite on the same timeline but also presents the IDEAL fit as he may not develop into an Embiid level player BUT if he just gets better at things he already does (again rim running, finishing around the basket & able to knock down open jumpers) that would completely change the dynamics on the court for guys like Scottie & RJ to get to the rim easier and everyone to work in a clearer mid-range (for SB & BI). Plus I think we're gonna need REAL size (pause) to handle Mobley/Allen, Giannis, Embiid, Paolo/Franz, Tatum/Kristaps, going forward.
Yep. I think that's part of their planning. Once you get out of that top 4 range, it gets a lot more flat in terms of prospects and that's why I don't think they're too worried if they fall out of the top 4/5 because they'll snag Maluach at worst. And if someone jumps up to take him higher, that leaves someone like Edgecombe falling to them.
Absolute worst-case scenario you're still adding someone like Jak, Tre Johnson, Fears, Newell, Queen, Sorber.

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:condon could be like a **** hartenstein, would need to take a big TS% jump to be as good
He has all the tools to be the best C in the draft. Condon could eventually start at PF with Scottie at SF and BI at SG. Platoon C with Poeltl/Zvonimir and Chomche. Which ever of Z or Chomche is rolling run with them.


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.Brinbe wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:If we're not in the top 4, I think I'm going with Khaman.
I know some will flame it idgaf lol to each their own who's their favorite pick. But I think his potential is as good as anyone's outside the top 4 and his raw skill set is almost exactly what we need at the position (size, lob threat, good at finishing around the basket in general and of course signs of an outside shot, good FT percentage which is a further encouraging sign for his jumper long term).
7'2 with a 7'6 wingspan and probably will be around 270pds around his prime, that just doesn't grow on trees. But there is A LOT there for them to work with him and if there's any place that prides themselves (rightfully so) and their development and likely to get the best out of him, it's here so I'd like to take that shot. He could be an absolute monster if he reaches anywhere near his potential but at bare minimum you've found your long term starter to replace Yak who is obv not quite on the same timeline but also presents the IDEAL fit as he may not develop into an Embiid level player BUT if he just gets better at things he already does (again rim running, finishing around the basket & able to knock down open jumpers) that would completely change the dynamics on the court for guys like Scottie & RJ to get to the rim easier and everyone to work in a clearer mid-range (for SB & BI). Plus I think we're gonna need REAL size (pause) to handle Mobley/Allen, Giannis, Embiid, Paolo/Franz, Tatum/Kristaps, going forward.
Yep. I think that's part of their planning. Once you get out of that top 4 range, it gets a lot more flat in terms of prospects and that's why I don't think they're too worried if they fall out of the top 4/5 because they'll snag Maluach at worst. And if someone jumps up to take him higher, that leaves someone like Edgecombe falling to them.
Absolute worst-case scenario you're still adding someone like Jak, Tre Johnson, Fears, Newell, Queen, Sorber.
Why do we like Maluach more than Chomche? Because he's 3 inches taller? Chomche looks more mobile.
Using a later pick on a Ware is better than using a top 10 pick on Clingan or Edey.












