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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#101 » by MiamiSPX » Wed May 14, 2025 6:18 pm

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Tripod wrote:In that same vein, then Brooklyn is a no too. So who in the East is a match...and we know he dislikes Indy so they are ruled out.


Well, I don't believe the reports about him wanting to stay in the East. It was inevitable that we would be used for clickbait and leverage.


Makes a lot of sense if Giannis’s goal is to win more championships. The East is clearly the easier path to get to the Finals for the foreseeable future.


Sure, and if he couldn't get far with another HoF'er as a sidekick, what exactly are we selling him on? Like everyone else, I hope like hell that BI stays healthy because he is instantly our best offensive player. But there are likely zero people on the planet who would be shocked if he missed 30 games next season, let's be honest.

As flawed as he is, I don't think Giannis comes here if Barnes is going the other way. And then that's where the Bucks and Raps are at an impasse. And again, I don't say this as a way of not trading Barnes. I would trade him in a nanosecond for Giannis. Bucks can even choose whichever other 2 non-BI players they want and I am still fine with it, as well as whatever draft picks it would take. It would be much cleaner and easier to send Barnes the other way, but I just think Giannis then wouldn't want to go.

I suspect that is what this "fact finding" mission that he and his people are on, is all about. Finding a suitable trading partner that would still be a very good team after losing the players that go the other way.
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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#102 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed May 14, 2025 6:19 pm

Ho man this time he said he wants us
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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#104 » by S.W.A.N » Wed May 14, 2025 6:40 pm

Perkins is the worst.
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Post#105 » by traps#10 » Wed May 14, 2025 6:47 pm

You give the Bucks everything including Scottie Barnes and sign Giannis’ 3 brothers
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Post#108 » by pilkoids » Wed May 14, 2025 8:15 pm

Nowhere else will he be more aligned with roster decisions than with buddy Masai
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Post#109 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:20 pm

Giannis is Masai's white whale. You can pretty much guarantee that if Masai can bring Giannis to Toronto and we win a championship, Masai will just retire and head off into the sunset; his job is done.
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Post#111 » by wegotthabeet » Wed May 14, 2025 8:39 pm

The Raptors should reacquire DeRozan just to move him, Pöltl and picks for Gianni.
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Post#112 » by XTC » Wed May 14, 2025 8:45 pm

Guys just let me know when to get the helicopter ready.
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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#113 » by mihaic » Wed May 14, 2025 8:49 pm

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MiamiSPX wrote:Spurs can offer up Castle, #2, #14, ATL's unprotected first in 2027 +++

They can, but they won't


To get Giannis? They instantly becomes the Favs in the West with Giannis/Wemby/Fox on the same team....And they would still have some solid depth with guys like Keldon/Barnes/CP3/Vassell/Sochan....I think if they can keep the 14th pick it would be ideal but i feel any trade involving Giannis will be pick heavy...

Whats the downside of making that move? Giannis is a top 3 player...

Perhaps it's just my feeling or perception, but Spurs seem to try and lowball others lately, trying to fleece the opponent. They will probably want to hold onto Castle and #2.

Even if it's for Giannis, they may not want to give up #2 and a Roty.

Also Bucks may want win now players not rookies, they are not tankers like jazz or Hornets, AFAIK.
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Post#114 » by TimeForChange » Wed May 14, 2025 9:32 pm

XTC wrote:Guys just let me know when to get the helicopter ready.

someone send Bobby to the hotel to take pics :D
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Post#115 » by TimeForChange » Wed May 14, 2025 9:40 pm

RJ+IQ+GD+all the Picks for Giannis and Connaughton works.

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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#116 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed May 14, 2025 9:45 pm

If we ever got him we need a steady defensive PG. Shead might be too young for that but he's a keeper.

We need shooting, veteran presence that can execute in tough situations.

I don't think you need a veteran team but you def need those pieces on any winning team. I guess you get Giannis then work on other things after.
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Post#117 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed May 14, 2025 9:48 pm

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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#118 » by Boogie! » Wed May 14, 2025 9:55 pm

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Psubs wrote:#9, Dick, Poeltl, Barrett, Agbaji and 2027 1st pick

PG IQ - Shead
SG Ja'Kobe - Lawson/Rhoden
SF Ingram - Battle
PF Scottie - Mogbo - Chomche
C Giannis - #39 / Chomche


Scottie and Gianni’s are a horrible fit. If you’re trading for Gianni’s Scottie is being shipped out.


They're a horrible fit at SF/PF but theyd be great at C/PF. You just need to get an above average bacup C for particular matchups but we could have our very own "death lineup"


I’m not sure why people are so insistent on hanging onto Barnes. If the right deal comes along you trade him. You don’t need Giannis and pooor man’s Giannis on the same team. Also If Barnes is that good and has that much value you also don’t need to include much with him to get Giannis instead of gutting half the team.

When we first traded for Barrett and quickley, that lineup with Barnes, siakam quickley Barrett looked pretty damn good. Now imagine you replaced Barnes with Giannis and have Ingram instead of siakam. That’s a crazy lineup with versatility and scoring. Pretty unstoppable.
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Re: [Perkins] - "Don't Sleep On Toronto For Giannis" 

Post#119 » by Tor_Raps » Wed May 14, 2025 10:08 pm

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Scottie and Gianni’s are a horrible fit. If you’re trading for Gianni’s Scottie is being shipped out.


They're a horrible fit at SF/PF but theyd be great at C/PF. You just need to get an above average bacup C for particular matchups but we could have our very own "death lineup"


I’m not sure why people are so insistent on hanging onto Barnes. If the right deal comes along you trade him. You don’t need Giannis and pooor man’s Giannis on the same team. Also If Barnes is that good and has that much value you also don’t need to include much with him to get Giannis instead of gutting half the team.

When we first traded for Barrett and quickley, that lineup with Barnes, siakam quickley Barrett looked pretty damn good. Now imagine you replaced Barnes with Giannis and have Ingram instead of siakam. That’s a crazy lineup with versatility and scoring. Pretty unstoppable.


I honestly wish we gave the IQ/RJ/Barnes/Siakam/Poeltl lineup more runway. We literally wasted 2 seasons only to get the 9th pick in this draft lol.
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