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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#101 » by TakeYourHeart » Wed May 14, 2025 3:59 pm

XTC wrote:Cedric Coward won the combine IMO.

Amazing measurements(+9 height to wingspan), shooting, athletic, defense, and he has shown shot creation.

Hes going to go alot higher than people realize. I would not be surprised if be goes top 10, and if he's a guy Masai is looking at. Very typical Masai type pick, and I see some hidden upside. He could one of those guys who keeps improving and ends up being a star IMO.

How would y'all rank these 3:
Rasheer Flemming
Carter Bryant
Cedric Coward
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Post#102 » by Raptorfan2012 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:02 pm

I think whomever we pick will be thrusted into the bench mob aka probably won't be spending much time in the G-League. Raptors are going to try to win next season, so less time trying to develop. As such, I think NBA-ready is going to be an important characteristic.

There are 3 main positions we need to fill:

- Back up big: Maluach if he is available at 9. If not, there are several back up big potentials in the 2nd round such as Ryan Kalkbrenner, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang, Maxime Rynaud, Alex Condon etc.

- 3-D wing: A position we have sorely missed since trading OG. Carter Bryant will be a great fit here but I wonder how NBA-ready he is. Fleming and Coward may be another option (probably more NBA ready). Not so sure about guys like Riley, Essengue, or McNeeley.

- Back up PG: I think this is one is less of a priority as we already have Quickley and Shead, but there is a possibility the Raptors want more of a field general at the lead guard spot. I can see a possibility we entertain drafting guys like Kasp or Traore with the 9th pick, or maybe pick one up with our 39th pick like Proctor, Pettiford, Fland, Philon etc.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#103 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:02 pm

Potential wrote:Kon should be our number 1 choice. I won't be surprised if Maluach falls to the 2nd round


2nd round would be a little insane lol....I think hes gone at 7 to the Pelicans....I think we are picking between Fears/Jak/Kon...Which i would be fine with...BPA and at 9 thats prolly BPA...If Mal is the one to fall to 9 you take him and hope he doesn't bust...

The guys below him like the Carter Bryant/Flemmings/Noa are all on the same tier as Maluach but Maluach fills more of a need for us than them guys...So you just take him and hope it works...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#104 » by Indeed » Wed May 14, 2025 4:02 pm

TheRealDeal wrote:I asked chat gpt for a list of players who weren’t projected to go top 10 but ended up sneaking into the top 10 late in the process. Not a bad list.

2023:
Bilal Coulibaly rose rapidly late in the process from outside the top 20 to being drafted 7th overall by the Pacers (traded to Wizards).
Taylor Hendricks was largely off preseason boards and ended up going 9th to the Jazz.
2022:
Jalen Williams (Santa Clara) was seen as a late first or second-rounder until workouts and combine; he went 12th (just outside top 10, but same pattern).
Dyson Daniels (G League Ignite) was not a lock for top 10 early in the year but rose to 8th overall.
2021:
Josh Giddey wasn’t a consensus top-10 pick early but climbed due to international performance and OKC’s interest, going 6th.
Franz Wagner was mocked in the 10–15 range most of the year but ended up 8th.
2020:
Patrick Williams was a mid-to-late first-round prospect in early mocks, went 4th overall after rising through combine and workouts.


Defensive players with good measurement may rise late in the process, because there is no basic stats and hype highlights, but teams may find their offensive potential could be develop, and fill a defensive role for the team.

Bryant, Flemming, Sorber, etc. filled that role, and they are much higher than pre-combine.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#105 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:04 pm

TakeYourHeart wrote:
XTC wrote:Cedric Coward won the combine IMO.

Amazing measurements(+9 height to wingspan), shooting, athletic, defense, and he has shown shot creation.

Hes going to go alot higher than people realize. I would not be surprised if be goes top 10, and if he's a guy Masai is looking at. Very typical Masai type pick, and I see some hidden upside. He could one of those guys who keeps improving and ends up being a star IMO.

How would y'all rank these 3:
Rasheer Flemming
Carter Bryant
Cedric Coward


Flemming 1st
Tbh I don't know much about Coward, Bryant has been mocked top 20 for the most part of the year while Coward has been a slow burn. There was rumours of him being promised in the top 10 a few months back tho. I could see someone taking Cedric before Bryant just based on more film out there on Cedric, Bryant's age may be factor with teams looking for more ready now players.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#106 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:06 pm

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Potential wrote:Kon should be our number 1 choice. I won't be surprised if Maluach falls to the 2nd round


2nd round would be a little insane lol....I think hes gone at 7 to the Pelicans....I think we are picking between Fears/Jak/Kon...Which i would be fine with...BPA and at 9 thats prolly BPA...If Mal is the one to fall to 9 you take him and hope he doesn't bust...

The guys below him like the Carter Bryant/Flemmings/Noa are all on the same tier as Maluach but Maluach fills more of a need for us than them guys...So you just take him and hope it works...


Fears will not be there at 9
One of
Washington/Pelicans/BK are taking fears and one of them will take Queen
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#107 » by Indeed » Wed May 14, 2025 4:14 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:I think whomever we pick will be thrusted into the bench mob aka probably won't be spending much time in the G-League. Raptors are going to try to win next season, so less time trying to develop. As such, I think NBA-ready is going to be an important characteristic.

There are 3 main positions we need to fill:

- Back up big: Maluach if he is available at 9. If not, there are several back up big potentials in the 2nd round such as Ryan Kalkbrenner, Rocco Zikarsky, Hansen Yang, Maxime Rynaud, Alex Condon etc.

- 3-D wing: A position we have sorely missed since trading OG. Carter Bryant will be a great fit here but I wonder how NBA-ready he is. Fleming and Coward may be another option (probably more NBA ready). Not so sure about guys like Riley, Essengue, or McNeeley.

- Back up PG: I think this is one is less of a priority as we already have Quickley and Shead, but there is a possibility the Raptors want more of a field general at the lead guard spot. I can see a possibility we entertain drafting guys like Kasp or Traore with the 9th pick, or maybe pick one up with our 39th pick like Proctor, Pettiford, Fland, Philon etc.


Maluach is more likely to spend time in G-League, probably same with Essengue.

Riley would be more a scoring guard who can create for himself, not a 3&D.
Thiero and Drake Powell would be the 3&D wing in the 2nd round pick, Jamir Watkins maybe undraft as well.
Amari Williams would be a late 2nd for backup big, maybe undraft as well.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#108 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:14 pm

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Potential wrote:Kon should be our number 1 choice. I won't be surprised if Maluach falls to the 2nd round


2nd round would be a little insane lol....I think hes gone at 7 to the Pelicans....I think we are picking between Fears/Jak/Kon...Which i would be fine with...BPA and at 9 thats prolly BPA...If Mal is the one to fall to 9 you take him and hope he doesn't bust...

The guys below him like the Carter Bryant/Flemmings/Noa are all on the same tier as Maluach but Maluach fills more of a need for us than them guys...So you just take him and hope it works...


Fears will not be there at 9
One of
Washington/Pelicans/BK are taking fears and one of them will take Queen


Yeah atm i have it going...6.Queen 7.Maluach 8.Fears 9.Kon....Thats how i think this is going to play out...And we prolly have to make a decision on a SG to trade for a big...

I don't think Pelicans go guard because they are legit loaded at guard spots atm with hardly any bigs....And Wizards idk for sure if they take Queen hes the hometown kid so i will just leave him there...

But if i were to guess that makes most logical sense to me...If Jak slides in though to one of them picks ahead of us there is a chance things could get interesting for us...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#109 » by TheRealDeal » Wed May 14, 2025 4:15 pm

How shocked would you guys be if Masai passed on Maluach? His foundation is literally called Giants of Africa :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#110 » by Indeed » Wed May 14, 2025 4:20 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
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2nd round would be a little insane lol....I think hes gone at 7 to the Pelicans....I think we are picking between Fears/Jak/Kon...Which i would be fine with...BPA and at 9 thats prolly BPA...If Mal is the one to fall to 9 you take him and hope he doesn't bust...

The guys below him like the Carter Bryant/Flemmings/Noa are all on the same tier as Maluach but Maluach fills more of a need for us than them guys...So you just take him and hope it works...


Fears will not be there at 9
One of
Washington/Pelicans/BK are taking fears and one of them will take Queen


Yeah atm i have it going...6.Queen 7.Maluach 8.Fears 9.Kon....Thats how i think this is going to play out...And we prolly have to make a decision on a SG to trade for a big...

I don't think Pelicans go guard because they are legit loaded at guard spots atm with hardly any bigs....And Wizards idk for sure if they take Queen hes the hometown kid so i will just leave him there...

But if i were to guess that makes most logical sense to me...If Jak slides in though to one of them picks ahead of us there is a chance things could get interesting for us...


Fears is definitely gone, his measurement and shooting clearly second to Harper. He should be a tier above Jakucionis.
And Bryant would be higher, no way his measurement is better than Bailey would be that far from him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#111 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:20 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
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2nd round would be a little insane lol....I think hes gone at 7 to the Pelicans....I think we are picking between Fears/Jak/Kon...Which i would be fine with...BPA and at 9 thats prolly BPA...If Mal is the one to fall to 9 you take him and hope he doesn't bust...

The guys below him like the Carter Bryant/Flemmings/Noa are all on the same tier as Maluach but Maluach fills more of a need for us than them guys...So you just take him and hope it works...


Fears will not be there at 9
One of
Washington/Pelicans/BK are taking fears and one of them will take Queen


Yeah atm i have it going...6.Queen 7.Maluach 8.Fears 9.Kon....Thats how i think this is going to play out...And we prolly have to make a decision on a SG to trade for a big...

I don't think Pelicans go guard because they are legit loaded at guard spots atm....And Wizards idk for sure if they take Queen hes the hometown kid so i will just leave him there...

But if i were to guess that makes most logical sense to me...If Jak slides in though to one of them picks ahead of us there is a chance things could get interesting for us...


Who's there PG? Murray is injured....

If anything it goes
Utah - Tre
Washington - Queen (Maryland connection)
Pelicans - Fears (no PG untill Murray is back )
BK - Kon or Jak
Toronto - Maluach
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Post#112 » by JCP11 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:21 pm

TheRealDeal wrote:How shocked would you guys be if Masai passed on Maluach? His foundation is literally called Giants of Africa :lol:

Well he did passed on kuminga, I wouldn't be shocked.
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Post#113 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:23 pm

TheRealDeal wrote:How shocked would you guys be if Masai passed on Maluach? His foundation is literally called Giants of Africa :lol:


I have my doubts hes available one of these teams will pick him for his defensive anchor/stretch big potential....Him shooting decent in the combine and if he continues to shoot ok in 5 on 5 scrimmages teams hold in workouts that should make it hard for him to slide to 9th to us....I have my doubts his shot translates right away it will prolly take some time but the potential is there and thats all teams need to take him...

But if hes the one to fall to 9th we take him...Because who else are you taking at that point that has his upside if it hits?...
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Post#114 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed May 14, 2025 4:25 pm

Ced Coward = Norm Powell?

Both super long, upperclassmen. The difference is Coward can shoot, but Norm developed it in the NBA.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#115 » by TheRealDeal » Wed May 14, 2025 4:26 pm

JCP11 wrote:
TheRealDeal wrote:How shocked would you guys be if Masai passed on Maluach? His foundation is literally called Giants of Africa :lol:

Well he did passed on kuminga, I wouldn't be shocked.


True but Kuminga isn’t a giant. Masai’s hero’s growing up were guys like Dikembe, Manute Bol and Hakeem. No shot he passes up on the next potential great African big.
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Post#116 » by Indeed » Wed May 14, 2025 4:28 pm

JCP11 wrote:
TheRealDeal wrote:How shocked would you guys be if Masai passed on Maluach? His foundation is literally called Giants of Africa :lol:

Well he did passed on kuminga, I wouldn't be shocked.


Maluach isn't even Ujiri type based on Jerry stats.
Those draft experts have no clue on our pick, so they linked him to us, but if Maluach is that high, why he wasn't linked to the teams above?
He was mocked to us when we were 7th, now he is mocked to us when we are at 9th?
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Post#117 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed May 14, 2025 4:29 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Ced Coward = Norm Powell?

Both super long, upperclassmen. The difference is Coward can shoot, but Norm developed it in the NBA.

Read on Twitter
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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#118 » by Indeed » Wed May 14, 2025 4:29 pm

TheRealDeal wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
TheRealDeal wrote:How shocked would you guys be if Masai passed on Maluach? His foundation is literally called Giants of Africa :lol:

Well he did passed on kuminga, I wouldn't be shocked.


True but Kuminga isn’t a giant. Masai’s hero’s growing up were guys like Dikembe, Manute Bol and Hakeem. No shot he passes up on the next potential great African big.


We already drafted Chomche, and someone posted on X that Chomche is 80 percentile across most things as a C
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Post#119 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed May 14, 2025 4:31 pm

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Fears will not be there at 9
One of
Washington/Pelicans/BK are taking fears and one of them will take Queen


Yeah atm i have it going...6.Queen 7.Maluach 8.Fears 9.Kon....Thats how i think this is going to play out...And we prolly have to make a decision on a SG to trade for a big...

I don't think Pelicans go guard because they are legit loaded at guard spots atm....And Wizards idk for sure if they take Queen hes the hometown kid so i will just leave him there...

But if i were to guess that makes most logical sense to me...If Jak slides in though to one of them picks ahead of us there is a chance things could get interesting for us...


Who's there PG? Murray is injured....

If anything it goes
Utah - Tre
Washington - Queen (Maryland connection)
Pelicans - Fears (no PG untill Murray is back )
BK - Kon or Jak
Toronto - Maluach


We will see how it goes....But there is a big chance Pelicans take the swing on Maluach...Don't be shocked if that happens....Murray is coming back next year prolly mid season...But they also have Jose/McCollum/Bruce Brown who can all be ball handlers and run the team while Murray is out...

They have Tre Murph/Herb/Hawkins as guards as well....So when Murray comes back a player like Fears would have very limited role for that team....And i am sure Pelicans after having a year of bad luck with injuries are prolly going to try and compete....At their big man positions...They have Yves Missi/Kelly Olynyk/Karlo....Do you believe they can compete with a big man rotation as poor as that?....I think Maluach is deff really high on Pelicans board if hes there to pick...

A big man rotation of Zion/Kelly Missi/Maluach makes alot more sense for them as a team...Missi/Maluach C duo will also make Zions life alot more easier...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#120 » by Psubs » Wed May 14, 2025 4:41 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
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Yeah atm i have it going...6.Queen 7.Maluach 8.Fears 9.Kon....Thats how i think this is going to play out...And we prolly have to make a decision on a SG to trade for a big...

I don't think Pelicans go guard because they are legit loaded at guard spots atm....And Wizards idk for sure if they take Queen hes the hometown kid so i will just leave him there...

But if i were to guess that makes most logical sense to me...If Jak slides in though to one of them picks ahead of us there is a chance things could get interesting for us...


Who's there PG? Murray is injured....

If anything it goes
Utah - Tre
Washington - Queen (Maryland connection)
Pelicans - Fears (no PG untill Murray is back )
BK - Kon or Jak
Toronto - Maluach


We will see how it goes....But there is a big chance Pelicans take the swing on Maluach...Don't be shocked if that happens....Murray is coming back next year prolly mid season...But they also have Jose/McCollum/Bruce Brown who can all be ball handlers and run the team while Murray is out...

They have Tre Murph/Herb/Hawkins as guards as well....So when Murray comes back a player like Fears would have very limited role for that team....And i am sure Pelicans after having a year of bad luck with injuries are prolly going to try and compete....At their big man positions...They have Yves Missi/Kelly Olynyk/Karlo....Do you believe they can compete with a big man rotation as poor as that?....I think Maluach is deff really high on Pelicans board if hes there to pick...

A big man rotation of Zion/Kelly Missi/Maluach makes alot more sense for them as a team...Missi/Maluach C duo will also make Zions life alot more easier...


If they draft Maluach, trade Ochai for Matkovic. :nod:
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