PG: Need some Dark(o) Magic (1-2)

[TRik]

The chances of Bobby making a trade in the first 2 months are 0%. If it were me, I'd be trying to pry Jones out of NO. Do we have anything the Pels need? Not at all, but it's Dumars....

Never should have given him the reigns IMO. Needed fresh blood with no attachments to flawed rosters.

[VanWest82]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch with all the poor defense and FTs.

[ConSarnit]

Fanbase when we go 1-3 despite us all acknowledging we had a tough opening schedule:

No excuses. When you're a bad team, there are no easy teams on the schedule. Dallas was 0-2 including losing by 10 against Washington who won only 18 games last season. They were beatable and we didn't get it done.

Giving up 139 to Dallas should be inexcusable. They don’t start anything close to a real pg and have maybe the worst 3pt shooting starting lineup in the league.

[dandaman]

man what are we like scoring almost 130 per night so far and this is while bricking all our 3s...the offense is not a problem but is darko the worst defensive coach in league something

He is the worst coach in the league, period imo. Has no redeeming qualities of an nba head coach nit sure why we continue this charade

He is not an NBA head coach period, he would have OKC playing.500 ball, too nice, too buddy buddy with players, no feel for lineups, bad adjustments, doesn't have his team ready to compete every night, no more development excuses for this guy, if this gets out of hand early Bobby wll fire him to save his own ass

[Pointgod]

Fanbase when we go 1-3 despite us all acknowledging we had a tough opening schedule:

No excuses. When you're a bad team, there are no easy teams on the schedule. Dallas was 0-2 including losing by 10 against Washington who won only 18 games last season. They were beatable and we didn't get it done.

Yeah for all the talk of us being a top 6 team, top 6 teams don’t get man handled by a bad Mavericks team who are missing their allstar guard and back up Center. Our next 12 games are against the Spurs, Rockets, Cavs, Grizzlies, Bucks, Hawks, Sixers, Cavs, Pacers, Nets, Hornets and Sixers again. The only guaranteed win is the Nets and everything else is a toss up.

[ConSarnit]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch.

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

[PushDaRock]

man what are we like scoring almost 130 per night so far and this is while bricking all our 3s...the offense is not a problem but is darko the worst defensive coach in league something

This is our destiny as long as Poeltl remains compromised (I’m assuming his back injury is hampering his play).

IQ
RJ
BI
Poeltl
Dick
Mamu

We can’t have these guys be top rotation guys and expect a good defense. Even at full health we’re an average defensive team. With Poeltl hobbling around we have no chance.

If this Poeltl injury lingers we are screwed defensively.

Scottie these last 2 games hasn't been good defensively either. I think right now, it's more that they aren't on the same page rather than just a personnel issue. The excessive fouling while refs have a tighter whistle to start the season also isn't helping. But, we are "trying" to establish an identity so it's to be expected right now.

[YogurtProducer]

IQ is a 6th man type player, like he was in New York

Even if he’s hitting 3s, he has like none of the intangibles a guy like Lowry had. He isn’t a starting pg on a legit team

Would like to see shead get more meaningful mins in the 4th with the starters, him and Scottie guarding pick n rolls would cause chaos

IQ actually looks better than last year. His shot needs to go down though. He has missed everything so far.

He has been getting to the rim a lot more and finishing with contact and also making some great passes out there. There's even some added explosiveness there.

I definitely agree - people are seeing him brick 3's and just being unreasonable with IQ.

15/5/7, and only 2 to's, while shooting 11% on 3's right now. If was even shooting his 3's at an average % (for him - so like 37%) he would be at roughly 20/5/7 on 61TS%. The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like offensively from him right now, and that is despite his best offensive skill being non-existent he has been quite good everywhere else.

It really seems to me like people are not doing much analysis other than "low ppg, bad 3pt%, must be bad" and not actually watching lol. His game inside-the-arc to start the year has been terrific.

[ItsDanger]

[PushDaRock]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch.

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

Well yeah, but it was the bench that did all the damage. They had 63 bench points on 34 FGA.

[Thaddy]

IQ is a 6th man type player, like he was in New York

Even if he’s hitting 3s, he has like none of the intangibles a guy like Lowry had. He isn’t a starting pg on a legit team

Would like to see shead get more meaningful mins in the 4th with the starters, him and Scottie guarding pick n rolls would cause chaos

IQ actually looks better than last year. His shot needs to go down though. He has missed everything so far.

He has been getting to the rim a lot more and finishing with contact and also making some great passes out there. There's even some added explosiveness there.

I definitely agree - people are seeing him brick 3's and just being unreasonable with IQ.

15/5/7, and only 2 to's, while shooting 11% on 3's right now. If was even shooting his 3's at an average % (for him - so like 37%) he would be at roughly 20/5/7 on 61TS%. The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like offensively from him right now, and that is despite his best offensive skill being non-existent he has been quite good everywhere else.

It really seems to me like people are not doing much analysis other than "low ppg, bad 3pt%, must be bad" and not actually watching lol. His game inside-the-arc to start the year has been terrific.

It's a good sign but he's a core player who has to shoot well. The same goes for Dick. If neither of them are hitting shots we are losing. RJ and Ingram aren't very reliable there.

The Ingram scoring is cool to watch but I don't think it's effective. He need to make advantage opportunities. I think if he can fit in similar to RJ and find spot up opportunities he'd look better.

We need 3pt volume from Ingram and RJ. Less from Barnes but if he's open that's fine.

[ConSarnit]

man what are we like scoring almost 130 per night so far and this is while bricking all our 3s...the offense is not a problem but is darko the worst defensive coach in league something

This is our destiny as long as Poeltl remains compromised (I’m assuming his back injury is hampering his play).

IQ
RJ
BI
Poeltl
Dick
Mamu

We can’t have these guys be top rotation guys and expect a good defense. Even at full health we’re an average defensive team. With Poeltl hobbling around we have no chance.

If this Poeltl injury lingers we are screwed defensively.

Scottie these last 2 games hasn't been good defensively either. I think right now, it's more that they aren't on the same page rather than just a personnel issue. The excessive fouling while refs have a tighter whistle to start the season also isn't helping. But, we are "trying" to establish an identity so it's to be expected right now.

I don’t know. Poeltl looks terrible. That seems injury related. IQ/RJ/BI just aren’t good. Even if they were on the same page that’s not enough to compensate for Poeltl being hobbled.

Getting on the same page will never be enough to compensate if Poeltl is hobbled because that means we have 4 below average defenders in our starting lineup. Not to mention key bench pieces like Dick and Mamu who are liabilities too. That’s too many poor defenders in the rotation.

[HKBOY]

I was trying to figure out a hypothetical replacement for IQ last night. Which PG right now can actually guard their position while hit threes consistently? I couldn't really come up with a legitimate trade target, but sillier things have happened before, right? I wonder who could slide into that starting PG role and actually give the Raptors what they sorely need?

There are options but we’ll have to attach multiple picks with Quickley if he keeps playing like this.

Who is actually a realistic target for an upgrade (even if Quickley was hitting 3s and had better trade value)

We need a pg like Jalen Suggs, someone who is an excellent defender, can shoot the 3 and is a capable passer.

[VanWest82]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch.

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

Mavs probably played their best game of the season tonight. They have superstar talent and it showed up, plus their role players played hard and hit shots. Give them credit. Mavs also shot 39 FTs. Defense was bad but not 39 FTs bad.

[PushDaRock]

IQ is a 6th man type player, like he was in New York

Even if he’s hitting 3s, he has like none of the intangibles a guy like Lowry had. He isn’t a starting pg on a legit team

Would like to see shead get more meaningful mins in the 4th with the starters, him and Scottie guarding pick n rolls would cause chaos

IQ actually looks better than last year. His shot needs to go down though. He has missed everything so far.

He has been getting to the rim a lot more and finishing with contact and also making some great passes out there. There's even some added explosiveness there.

I definitely agree - people are seeing him brick 3's and just being unreasonable with IQ.

15/5/7, and only 2 to's, while shooting 11% on 3's right now. If was even shooting his 3's at an average % (for him - so like 37%) he would be at roughly 20/5/7 on 61TS%. The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like offensively from him right now, and that is despite his best offensive skill being non-existent he has been quite good everywhere else.

It really seems to me like people are not doing much analysis other than "low ppg, bad 3pt%, must be bad" and not actually watching lol. His game inside-the-arc to start the year has been terrific.

I think people are just pissed we have gotten roasted by backup PG's in B2B games and putting all the blame on IQ.

[SirKen]

Xenophobia is alive and well with NBA reffing. We may never win another championship

I'm hoping we can have AI look at how one team is reffed and project how many free throws the other team would get if they were called the same way.

I'm pretty sure the Raotors would be one of the teams in the league with the highest disparity indicating they get hosed the most

Couldn't watch the game but was just checking the highlights right now. I laughed out loud when PJ elbow pushed BI during his drive and then BI was called for the foul. All I could say was "Of course!" lol

I would love it if they found more "foul play" with the whistle during the investigation of the betting scandal.

[PushDaRock]

There are options but we’ll have to attach multiple picks with Quickley if he keeps playing like this.

Who is actually a realistic target for an upgrade (even if Quickley was hitting 3s and had better trade value)

We need a pg like Jalen Suggs, someone who is an excellent defender, can shoot the 3 and is a capable passer.

Not sure how anyone can be confident in Suggs' 3 point shooting. It's 3 seasons of horrid shooting with 1 outlier year, hard to know what to expect from him.

Capable passer? People whining about IQ's passing while Suggs is a career 3.3 APG guy.

[ConSarnit]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch.

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

Well yeah, but it was the bench that did all the damage. They had 63 bench points on 34 FGA.

Not exactly a vote of confidence for our team defense.

[YogurtProducer]

We'll look better when our shooters find their shot and we're not playing a team with two guys more talented than anyone on our roster. Frustrating watch.

They’re starting a rookie PF at point guard and have 1 good shooter in their starting lineup. If we can’t hold these guys to under 120 we have big problems.

We lost to the Mavs bench so IDK how either of those things are relevant really. We got crushed by Dlo and Christie

[GCougar]

Too many points given up again.

Still very early, get on it Darko.