2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[DreamTeam09]

The 2023 draft track apparently these where the players we worked out:
Charles Bediako
Gradey Dick
Jordan Hawkins
Kamaka Hepa
Jett Howard
Maxwell Lewis
Leonard Miller
Isaiah Miranda
Markquis Nowell
Brandin Podziemski
Malachi Smith
Nick Smith Jr.
Cason Wallace
DeAndre Williams

It was clear they wanted a guard/shooting

These are the players we have worked out so far in 2024:
Jaden Bediako
Reece Beekman
Keion Brooks Jr.
Marcus Domask
Zach Edey
Jesse Edwards
Tristan Enaruna
Ticket Gaines
Joseph Girard III
Coleman Hawkins
Dillon Jones
Xaivian Lee
Emanuel Miller
Jonathan Mogbo
Josh Oduro
Tyrese Samuel
Cam Spencer
Jaylon Tyson
Hason Ward
Kel’el Ware
Jahmir Young

I really do feel Masai has locked in one of Edey, Ware, or Tyson with #19. It seems like the Raptors are scouting more for #31.

I'm sure they went & seen other players games/workouts. Like Salaun they visited.

Looks like we may be in position to take the 2nd or 3rd C out of this draft, depending on what position you classify Sarr.
Ware is just easier to envision. You hope for him to be our Derek lively who may have some outside touch.
Edey you're hoping he can survive on defense. Maybe you zone up with him on the floor.

Me personally, I'm taking Tristan De Silva and calling it a day. High floor & fits a need, plug & play. Jamie Jacquez delivered & he still has upside n potential while being 23

But I'd almost be okay with anyone who they draft

[DreamTeam09]

If we draft George, I hope we view him as what we wanted out of Banton & groom him as the back-up PG who can shoot with size therefore being able to play in multiple lineups

[Syd-TK3]

Anyone think the Daron Holmes III promise is from us?

I don’t know . I haven’t seen any noise about us being either interested or not interested in Holmes II.

I guess anything is possible

But the rumours about a promise was more in the back end of the first round .

Idk how accurate that hoopshype tracker is but there's not a single team listed as working out Holmes so whatever happened with him and this promise team is very private

[PhilBlackson]

The 2023 draft track apparently these where the players we worked out:
Charles Bediako
Gradey Dick
Jordan Hawkins
Kamaka Hepa
Jett Howard
Maxwell Lewis
Leonard Miller
Isaiah Miranda
Markquis Nowell
Brandin Podziemski
Malachi Smith
Nick Smith Jr.
Cason Wallace
DeAndre Williams

It was clear they wanted a guard/shooting

These are the players we have worked out so far in 2024:
Jaden Bediako
Reece Beekman
Keion Brooks Jr.
Marcus Domask
Zach Edey
Jesse Edwards
Tristan Enaruna
Ticket Gaines
Joseph Girard III
Coleman Hawkins
Dillon Jones
Xaivian Lee
Emanuel Miller
Jonathan Mogbo
Josh Oduro
Tyrese Samuel
Cam Spencer
Jaylon Tyson
Hason Ward
Kel’el Ware
Jahmir Young

I really do feel Masai has locked in one of Edey, Ware, or Tyson with #19. It seems like the Raptors are scouting more for #31.

I'm sure they went & seen other players games/workouts. Like Salaun they visited.

Looks like we may be in position to take the 2nd or 3rd C out of this draft, depending on what position you classify Sarr.
Ware is just easier to envision. You hope for him to be our Derek lively who may have some outside touch.
Edey you're hoping he can survive on defense. Maybe you zone up with him on the floor.

Me personally, I'm taking Tristan De Silva and calling it a day. High floor & fits a need, plug & play. Jamie Jacquez delivered & he still has upside n potential while being 23

But I'd almost be okay with anyone who they draft

Of those names I'm praying it's Ware.

I don't mind TDS but I'm not his hugest fan either. He'll likely be a really solid pick but I'm just always been more of an upside guy lol that I may even be more inclined to take a flyer on George. I wouldn't hate a TDS pick but I just think it both raises the floor AND reduces the ceiling of the team long term due to TDS being NBA ready. Because then I think the team would "surprise" in the sense they'd likely become a cusp PlayIn team or above which of course ruins next year's pick and then we're basically reliant on 24's starting line up to "develop into a contender" (which I totally see our FO wanting to happen lol). I think that team tops out as a 4-6th seed but gets in the POs quicker and then FO just uses the DeRozan era as reason to justify getting dusted each year with "hopes" of trading for a star to get over the hump but ofc I'm getting way ahead of myself.

Personally I'm hoping for one of Ware, Bub or Collier.

I think each guy has the potential to be something more than just a solid role player and as such could potentially push us further up the todem pole down the line but it doesn't look like we're really for a PG via the draft. So for me I'm praying it's Ware but fully expecting it to be either TDS or Edey.

[Dalek]

My non-scientific method of pick likelihood is by who Gradey Dick is following on IG. It is probably a gesture done after meeting the player at the Raptor's facilities. Scottie looks like has been away for the past month in China, but guys like Dick and even DJ Carton have been in town training and likely to welcome these guys as they come in for draft workouts.

IG follows
Jaylon Tyson - Gradey and Carton
Tyler Smith - Gradey
Kyle Filipowski - Gradey
Kel'el Ware - Gradey
Emanuel Miller - Gradey
Dillon Jones - Gradey
Boogie Ellis - Ochai Agbaji
Tristan Enaruna - Ochai Agbaji
Mogbo - Scottie (but knew each other form before)
Keion Brooks - Carton
Reece Beekman - Carton

Worked out with Raptors / No IG follows:
Zach Edey
Dylan Disu
Jaden Bediako
Marcus Domask
Joseph Girard
Jesse Edwards

My sneaky suspicion is that we are targeting one of the scoring PFs (Ware, Smith or Flip). It is pretty quiet on the workouts, but it looks like we have had them in.

If I were to guess based on fit and availability, Flip (19) and Tyson (31). Both fit into what Darko was saying in his interview about two rookies "who can immediately join the team." Ware and Smith will need G-League time. Both Flip and Tyson have good floors coming in and should adjust to the NBA well because they can shoot and should be able to understand defensive schemes. I would throw Cam Spencer in that mix, but he doesn't seem to have IG.

[PoundTown]

If we draft George, I hope we view him as what we wanted out of Banton & groom him as the back-up PG who can shoot with size therefore being able to play in multiple lineups

As someone that thinks George can have a successful career, I think having him play point is a failed experiment waiting to happen. It's like trying to make Kyle Anderson a full-time point; He has the vision, but without the breakdown/ blow by ability, he can't exploit it. To me, George looks like an off-ball role player through and through with some good vision and IQ. Think his ceiling resembles more of an Otto Porter pre-injury. Length, good lateral movement/ defensive instincts and really good off ball shooting, with ability to see the floor are how I'd describe him and what traits will translate to the league. Biggest thing is he is a 6'8" shooter with range that isn't a liability defensively. Would be happy with him at 31.

[Dalek]

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Oso Ighodaro is liked by both Carton and Ochai.

[PhilBlackson]

If we draft George, I hope we view him as what we wanted out of Banton & groom him as the back-up PG who can shoot with size therefore being able to play in multiple lineups

As someone that thinks George can have a successful career, I think having him play point is a failed experiment waiting to happen. It's like trying to make Kyle Anderson a full-time point; He has the vision, but without the breakdown/ blow by ability, he can't exploit it. To me, George looks like an off-ball role player through and through with some good vision and IQ. Think his ceiling resembles more of an Otto Porter pre-injury. Length, good lateral movement/ defensive instincts and really good off ball shooting, with ability to see the floor are how I'd describe him and what traits will translate to the league. Biggest thing is he is a 6'8" shooter with range that isn't a liability defensively. Would be happy with him at 31.

While I actually like the pre-injury Otto comparison way more than Kyle Anderson one, I still think it’s selling his potential short. Of course comparisons aren’t exacts but here’s where I think he differs from each guy…

Kyle Anderson’s shot is butt ugly (KG is a good shooter like Otto) and whole George isn’t an explosive leaper or prime LeBron sprinting down the court, he does move quicker than either guy with the ball in his hands. And what separates him from Otto is that Kyshawn has more creativity with the ball in his hands…he kinda is a blend of both guys lol.

However even Anderson wouldn’t have the same affect with the ball in his hands because he doesn’t posse a threat to pull up and shoot as George would which would create a completely different dynamic and ceiling as a player. I’m not sure what a little quicker Anderson/Otto would be, almost like a slower Paul George but that could still be a pretty damn good SF. I think Tyson is more likely to fall to 31 than Kyshawn and personally I’d be good with drafting KG but I’d still likely favour Ware, Bub or Collier over him. Personally of the 3 SFs that might still be available at our pick (TDS, JT or PG), I’d probably like to take a flyer on PG’s upside more than a fairly established trajectory for the other two.

[PhilBlackson]

It disappoints me a little that we still haven’t looked at Bub.

Every time I watch his highlights he just looks like a NBA player to me and the guy that people are gonna say he should’ve gone in the lottery.

[Dalek]

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Oso Ighodaro is liked by both Carton and Ochai.

At the start of the draft cycle I said Kolek and Ighodaro are a perfect combo that fit the system here. They already have built up chemistry, and provide a boost for IQ. Both represent the best passers at their positions. Kolek is a great shooter while Oso is going to be a three position defender. Both had 4.0 GPAs at Marquette while also playing high level ball. These guys just push just push each other to be better.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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Oso Ighodaro is liked by both Carton and Ochai.

At the start of the draft cycle I said Kolek and Ighodaro are a perfect combo that fit the system here. They already have built up chemistry, and provide a boost for IQ. Both represent the best passers at their positions. Kolek is a great shooter while Oso is going to be a three position defender. Both had 4.0 GPAs at Marquette while also playing high level ball. These guys just push just push each other to be better.

I’d agree that they’re both good players. My thing is, why was their team not better with 2 NBA players on it? I know it’s not that easy, but I think they should’ve been better than they were.

[WuTang_CMB]

Cam Spencer good value in the 2nd round for teams , 47% on pull up 3's , system guy

[Dalek]

Add Tyler Kolek to our workout list. Marquette represent.



Oso Ighodaro is liked by both Carton and Ochai.

At the start of the draft cycle I said Kolek and Ighodaro are a perfect combo that fit the system here. They already have built up chemistry, and provide a boost for IQ. Both represent the best passers at their positions. Kolek is a great shooter while Oso is going to be a three position defender. Both had 4.0 GPAs at Marquette while also playing high level ball. These guys just push just push each other to be better.

I’d agree that they’re both good players. My thing is, why was their team not better with 2 NBA players on it? I know it’s not that easy, but I think they should’ve been better than they were.

I followed Marquette as one of my teams and I think they played well this year finish 23-8 - for the past two years they have had an elite offense that moves the ball and is efficient and their defense is low on blocks and rebounds, but high on steals. It is the team that I felt really is a scalable model to what Darko wants to do with Toronto.

What derailed them a bit was Kolek who was out right at the end of their year for about 3 weeks and kind of just started to play again as they did the March Madness tournament. I really don't know much about the oblique strains, but it is a tough injury to recover from especially for a shooter, so I don't think Kolek was at his best going into the tourney. Still, they made it to the Sweet 16 and just faced a red hot NC State. It killed my bracket, but DJ Burns was on such a heater that NC State seemed like a team of destiny.

Back to Kolek. He measured a half inch shorter than Sheppard but had two inches more reach and was 15 lbs heavier. Kolek was in and around 40% for the past two years and had 509 assists and last season shot 59% at the rim on 200 attempts. He is criminally underrated like Cam Spencer in this draft.

[DG88]

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[C_Money]

It disappoints me a little that we still haven’t looked at Bub.

Every time I watch his highlights he just looks like a NBA player to me and the guy that people are gonna say he should’ve gone in the lottery.

He’s definitely better than a lot of the sh*t players ranked ahead of him. Same with McCain and Dadiet.

[Risk101]

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[PhilBlackson]

It disappoints me a little that we still haven’t looked at Bub.

Every time I watch his highlights he just looks like a NBA player to me and the guy that people are gonna say he should’ve gone in the lottery.

He’s definitely better than a lot of the sh*t players ranked ahead of him. Same with McCain and Dadiet.

I’m still not quite sold on Dadiet but McCain, absolutely.

I think McCain could (not saying will) end up being at a similar level to Shepard who’s projected as high as top 3. Of course I favor Reed but McCain’s shooting and strength at PG should make him a really good rotation player at minimum and on the higher end (long term of course) I could see him being at a comparable level to IQ.

Dadiet looks ok to me, I don’t mind him with the DET pick but I firmly like George, TDS and Tyson more at the IND pick than him. Even with the DET pick though I’d still be entertaining Flowers and Djurisic. I’m actually not sure out of those 3 who stands out the most to me, I think I get slightly favour Flowers but it’s a bit of a toss up for me. Personally I’ll be hoping someone like Smith, Furphy fall. But it would be between those wings or one Kolek or Mitchell that I’m favoring at 31.

[Dalek]

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Adem Bona is a great athlete and looks so strong, but he is like 6'8 and only got 6 boards in college. I was tracking him because I thought he would be great the past year, but he stagnated or played worse in a lot of areas despite the increased role.

[PoundTown]

The 2023 draft track apparently these where the players we worked out:
Charles Bediako
Gradey Dick
Jordan Hawkins
Kamaka Hepa
Jett Howard
Maxwell Lewis
Leonard Miller
Isaiah Miranda
Markquis Nowell
Brandin Podziemski
Malachi Smith
Nick Smith Jr.
Cason Wallace
DeAndre Williams

It was clear they wanted a guard/shooting

These are the players we have worked out so far in 2024:
Jaden Bediako
Reece Beekman
Keion Brooks Jr.
Marcus Domask
Zach Edey
Jesse Edwards
Tristan Enaruna
Ticket Gaines
Joseph Girard III
Coleman Hawkins
Dillon Jones
Xaivian Lee
Emanuel Miller
Jonathan Mogbo
Josh Oduro
Tyrese Samuel
Cam Spencer
Jaylon Tyson
Hason Ward
Kel’el Ware
Jahmir Young

I really do feel Masai has locked in one of Edey, Ware, or Tyson with #19. It seems like the Raptors are scouting more for #31.

I'm sure they went & seen other players games/workouts. Like Salaun they visited.

Looks like we may be in position to take the 2nd or 3rd C out of this draft, depending on what position you classify Sarr.
Ware is just easier to envision. You hope for him to be our Derek lively who may have some outside touch.
Edey you're hoping he can survive on defense. Maybe you zone up with him on the floor.

Me personally, I'm taking Tristan De Silva and calling it a day. High floor & fits a need, plug & play. Jamie Jacquez delivered & he still has upside n potential while being 23

But I'd almost be okay with anyone who they draft

When it comes to Tristan Dasilva vs Jaime Jaquez, JJJ was a much more dominant player than DaSilva. JJJ was probably the second best player in college ball, Tristan was not. Tristan still may have a role, but could be more Santi Aldama like in my opinion.

They could definitely be locked in to those 3 guys at 19, and a guy like Dillon Jones could be an option at 31 if they go big at 19. Mogbo and Chomche are definitley in play at 31 too, but wouldn't make a ton of sense to take Chomche if you take a 5 at 19. I think Mogbo could translate to an off-ball 4 with some transition pushing ability, that could guard 3's, 4's and matchup to small ball 5's. It wouldnt shock me at all if he was the pick at 31.

[Dalek]

Tyler Kolek being a sub 6'4 guard will make it interesting for him at the NBA level. I think he is bigger than TJ McConnell who he will inevitably be compared to and he is stronger and has just as much craft at the rim.

I really like reviewing the Marquette - Purdue game since he had to deal with Edey deterring him which is NBA level size. He managed well and working the two man with Oso showed his quick 0.5 basketball decision making.

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