2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[XTC]

I honesty think Beekman is going to end up being a steal. I have no idea why he isn't ranked higher.

Good athlete, good size, solid floor general skills, and he's a terror on defense. He's a first rounder in my eyes, if he's there at 31 you have to think long and hard if you're going to take him.

[ArthurVandelay]

I honesty think Beekman is going to end up being a steal. I have no idea why he isn't ranked higher.

Good athlete, good size, solid floor general skills, and he's a terror on defense. He's a first rounder in my eyes, if he's there at 31 you have to think long and hard if you're going to take him.

He can’t shoot..that’s the knock

I really like him too

[Psubs]

I honesty think Beekman is going to end up being a steal. I have no idea why he isn't ranked higher.

Good athlete, good size, solid floor general skills, and he's a terror on defense. He's a first rounder in my eyes, if he's there at 31 you have to think long and hard if you're going to take him.

He can’t shoot..that’s the knock

I really like him too

He decent last year. I guess if TJ McConnell can keep practising and shoot 40% the last 2 years from 3, others can. At least he shoots FT's near 80% so there's a chance. He might be like Delon Wright.

[Psubs]

At the start of the draft cycle I said Kolek and Ighodaro are a perfect combo that fit the system here. They already have built up chemistry, and provide a boost for IQ. Both represent the best passers at their positions. Kolek is a great shooter while Oso is going to be a three position defender. Both had 4.0 GPAs at Marquette while also playing high level ball. These guys just push just push each other to be better.

I’d agree that they’re both good players. My thing is, why was their team not better with 2 NBA players on it? I know it’s not that easy, but I think they should’ve been better than they were.

I followed Marquette as one of my teams and I think they played well this year finish 23-8 - for the past two years they have had an elite offense that moves the ball and is efficient and their defense is low on blocks and rebounds, but high on steals. It is the team that I felt really is a scalable model to what Darko wants to do with Toronto.

What derailed them a bit was Kolek who was out right at the end of their year for about 3 weeks and kind of just started to play again as they did the March Madness tournament. I really don't know much about the oblique strains, but it is a tough injury to recover from especially for a shooter, so I don't think Kolek was at his best going into the tourney. Still, they made it to the Sweet 16 and just faced a red hot NC State. It killed my bracket, but DJ Burns was on such a heater that NC State seemed like a team of destiny.

Back to Kolek. He measured a half inch shorter than Sheppard but had two inches more reach and was 15 lbs heavier. Kolek was in and around 40% for the past two years and had 509 assists and last season shot 59% at the rim on 200 attempts. He is criminally underrated like Cam Spencer in this draft.

Cam Spencer could be Cam Thomas 2.0...

[Dalek]

I’d agree that they’re both good players. My thing is, why was their team not better with 2 NBA players on it? I know it’s not that easy, but I think they should’ve been better than they were.

I followed Marquette as one of my teams and I think they played well this year finish 23-8 - for the past two years they have had an elite offense that moves the ball and is efficient and their defense is low on blocks and rebounds, but high on steals. It is the team that I felt really is a scalable model to what Darko wants to do with Toronto.

What derailed them a bit was Kolek who was out right at the end of their year for about 3 weeks and kind of just started to play again as they did the March Madness tournament. I really don't know much about the oblique strains, but it is a tough injury to recover from especially for a shooter, so I don't think Kolek was at his best going into the tourney. Still, they made it to the Sweet 16 and just faced a red hot NC State. It killed my bracket, but DJ Burns was on such a heater that NC State seemed like a team of destiny.

Back to Kolek. He measured a half inch shorter than Sheppard but had two inches more reach and was 15 lbs heavier. Kolek was in and around 40% for the past two years and had 509 assists and last season shot 59% at the rim on 200 attempts. He is criminally underrated like Cam Spencer in this draft.

Cam Spencer could be Cam Thomas 2.0...

You have to walk me through that one. Cam Spencer seems like a very different player. Cam Thomas is more like a no conscience flamethrower while Spencer is more surgical.

[OAKLEY_2]

(18) Magic Ja’Kobe Walter SG – Baylor – HT: 6-5 – WT: 198 – WING: 6-10 – Fr – A high-scoring 2-guard with big time talent and athleticism who can really stroke the 3-ball. Has s crystal clear NBA role as a perimeter shot-maker. If his to-the-basket game improves it’ll take his game to a new level.

(19) Raptors (Pacers) Isaiah Collier PG – USC – HT: 6-3 – WT: 205 – WING: 6-4 3/4 – Fr – Collier had an up and down season for the Trojans, missing time with an injury and showing some limitations as a shooter. He’s a powerful driver and a skilled passer who’s best basketball is ahead of him but he might not be that elite PG prospect we thought he was. HELL YES.

(24) Knicks (Mavs) DaRon Holmes II PF – Dayton – HT: 6-9 – WT: 236 – WING: 7-1 – Jr – A well rounded big man who can bang in the paint and step out and hit the 3. Not the sexiest player but beats you with fundamentals, HONORABLE MENTION

(25) Knicks Jaylon Tyson SF – California – HT: 6-7 – WT: 218 – WING: 6-8 – Jr. – A strong 6-7 wing who has taken his game to a new level and put himself in the mid first round conversation. A productive scorer and a high level athlete.

the above seems like the sweet spot of this draft as per nbadraftroom. At 31?

(32) Jazz Nikola Durišić SG – Mega Mozzart (Serbia) – HT: 6-7 – WT: 209 – WING: 6-8 – Int.04 – A big, strong guard who is a high level scorer and play-maker on the wing. Will need to shoot the ball better but shows promise. Had a really nice showing at the draft combine.

(34) Blazers Ulrich Chomche C – Cameroon – HT: 6-11 – WT: 235 – WING: 7-3 3/4 – Int.05 – Super long with good mobility, Chomche flashes big upside and a high ceiling, especially on the defensive end.

(36) Pacers PJ Hall PF – Clemson – HT: 6-9 – WT: 240 – WING: 7-1 1/2 – Sr – A bouncy, high energy forward who can stroke the 3. A very NBA-ready player who should be able to provide value from day 1 but probably isn’t going to be a star.
THIS GUY SHOULD BE OUR BACK-UP CENTRE.

(43) Heat Tristen Newton PG – UConn – HT: 6-4 – WT: 192 – WING: 6-6 3/4 – Sr – A complete guard who plays both ends and can get hot from 3. He’s got size at the point guard position and is just a solid all around player who plays a team game.

(45) Kings Dillon Jones SF – Weber State – HT: 6-6 – WT: 237 – WING: 6-11 – Jr – A big-bodied guard/wing who brings a lot of intensity to the court. Rebounds the ball extremely well and is a high-level passer.

(47) Magic Enrique Freeman PF – Akron – HT: 6-8 – WT: 206 – WING: 7-2 – Sr – A powerful and versatile forward with great length who plays with a ton of energy. Has made a big move up draft boards with a strong draft season.

(51) Wizards Jonathan Mogbo PF – San Francisco – HT: 6-7 – WT: 217 – WING: 7-2 – Jr – A powerful and athletic forward who put up monster numbers this season and put himself on the NBA draft radar. HONORABLE MENTION

[XTC]

The closer the draft gets, the more obvious it becomes that this draft actually lacks top end talent. My approach to this draft is to try to find some 3+D wings/rim protectors/stretch bigs who can contribute nightly on a contender. While this draft lacks top end talent, I do like some of the older guys in this draft.

[TimeForChange]

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/2024-nba-mock-draft-4-0/

Has the Raps drafting Edey at 19 and Kyshawn at 31

[XTC]

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/2024-nba-mock-draft-4-0/

Has the Raps drafting Edey at 19 and Kyshawn at 31

I also think the Raptors take Edey if he's available. He's worked out for us, and it honestly just makes too much sense.

[SpezNc]

The closer the draft gets, the more obvious it becomes that this draft actually lacks top end talent. My approach to this draft is to try to find some 3+D wings/rim protectors/stretch bigs who can contribute nightly on a contender. While this draft lacks top end talent, I do like some of the older guys in this draft.

That is said I am not sure if that affects us in the range 19-31. I mean compare to a normal draft.

This draft is often categorized as a “flat draft”. I would not be surprised when all is said and done that our range 19 to 31 is the one with the most value compare to a typical draft.

[WuTang_CMB]

Me personally, I'm taking Tristan De Silva and calling it a day. High floor & fits a need, plug & play. Jamie Jacquez delivered & he still has upside n potential while being 23

But I'd almost be okay with anyone who they draft

TDS if still there at 19, wouldn't be surprised if hes the pick. I know not the high ceiling selection, but he has a high floor and is a system player that can fit in this system on both ends.

[SpezNc]

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/2024-nba-mock-draft-4-0/

Has the Raps drafting Edey at 19 and Kyshawn at 31

I also think the Raptors take Edey if he's available. He's worked out for us, and it honestly just makes too much sense.

Even if Zach Edey is not the selection I would be the most excited , it’s a selection I can’t complain and indeed kinda make a lot of senses as well .

As for 31, I hope we swing for the fences .

Maybe a Pacome Dadiet?

[Indeed]

The closer the draft gets, the more obvious it becomes that this draft actually lacks top end talent. My approach to this draft is to try to find some 3+D wings/rim protectors/stretch bigs who can contribute nightly on a contender. While this draft lacks top end talent, I do like some of the older guys in this draft.

That is said I am not sure if that affects us in the range 19-31. I mean compare to a normal draft.

This draft is often categorized as a “flat draft”. I would not be surprised when all is said and done that our range 19 to 31 is the one with the most value compare to a typical draft.

Said this again, the bottom is pretty bad as well, not just the top.

Those 3&D near our range has worse measurement than previous drafts. Previous drafts they have average SF (eg. Herb Jones was 7' wingspan in a strong draft near mid 2nd round), this draft they have below average SF (6'10 wingspan in bottom 1st round).

The "flat draft" is just from the media trying to have people buy into it.

[SpezNc]

Me personally, I'm taking Tristan De Silva and calling it a day. High floor & fits a need, plug & play. Jamie Jacquez delivered & he still has upside n potential while being 23

But I'd almost be okay with anyone who they draft

TDS if still there at 19, wouldn't be surprised if hes the pick. I know not the high ceiling selection, but he has a high floor and is a system player that can fit in this system on both ends.

I don’t know if it’s because we lack depth at all positions but I feel that almost every players in our range could make senses .

Last year it was somewhat easier to trim to 5 . It was between Keyonte, Bufkin, Hawkins, Wallace and obviously Gradey.

This year I feel that the list of options at 19 is much larger .

Collier , Walter, Edey, Ware, Missi , Filipowski, Da Silva, Carrington, Smith, George , Furphy.

On that list maybe only Furphy and maybe Smith I would be surprise we draft .

I guess the most probable 5 options would be Collier, Edey, Ware, Da Silva and Missi.

It’s also true that pick 19 is lower than 13 and therefore it’s a bit more difficult to project .

[Pericles]

My read on a draft has never been more different from the
media consensus than it is this year. I have been an avid draft fan since the mid 90s.

I have the top pick between Sarr and Buzelis and I lean Buzelis.

I still have Isaiah Collier ranked above Rob Dillingham and Reed Sheppard.

I still see Kyle Filipowski as a lottery pick and ahead of Missi, Ware, Edey, and Holmes.

I think Justin Edwards is going to be the steal of the draft.

I think Dunn and Mogbo would he in the late first round.

[mtcan]

https://www.sportsbusinessclassroom.com/2024-nba-mock-draft-4-0/

Has the Raps drafting Edey at 19 and Kyshawn at 31

I also think the Raptors take Edey if he's available. He's worked out for us, and it honestly just makes too much sense.

Edey is the pick if he's there...and I'd be happy with it.

At 7'4 and 300 lbs at present...he's already shown at the combine that he's more agile than people have given him credit for.

If he's even leaner...does that help him on the court as a pro? Can he lose 20 lbs and be even quicker?

[OAKLEY_2]

The closer the draft gets, the more obvious it becomes that this draft actually lacks top end talent. My approach to this draft is to try to find some 3+D wings/rim protectors/stretch bigs who can contribute nightly on a contender. While this draft lacks top end talent, I do like some of the older guys in this draft.

I'd venture to say this may be the best draft ever for roster depth, rotation attributes and length. There are virtually no Wemby's but also no David Johnson's or Jimmer Fredettes. Remind me how we picked David Johnson again. Some teams will have serious diamond in rough players. The Knicks 24 and 25 might turn out really good and we will say why did we not trade Brown for some of that?

[XTC]

The closer the draft gets, the more obvious it becomes that this draft actually lacks top end talent. My approach to this draft is to try to find some 3+D wings/rim protectors/stretch bigs who can contribute nightly on a contender. While this draft lacks top end talent, I do like some of the older guys in this draft.

I'd venture to say this may be the best draft ever for roster depth, rotation attributes and length. There are virtually no Wemby's but also no David Johnson's or Jimmer Fredettes. Remind me how we picked David Johnson again. Some teams will have serious diamond in rough players. The Knicks 24 and 25 might turn out really good and we will say why did we not trade Brown for some of that?

The Knicks are going to pick Ryan Dunn, and he's going to allow them to load manage OG, and possibly have the best defense in the NBA.

Some people are really over looking how good some of these kids can become. Just because there's no franchise players, doesn't mean there are no players who can't make an impact. I actually quite like the bottom half of this draft.

[SpezNc]

I know I don’t think new names has been added for the Raptors but do someone has the link to consult which team workout which players ?

[WuTang_CMB]

The closer the draft gets, the more obvious it becomes that this draft actually lacks top end talent. My approach to this draft is to try to find some 3+D wings/rim protectors/stretch bigs who can contribute nightly on a contender. While this draft lacks top end talent, I do like some of the older guys in this draft.

I'd venture to say this may be the best draft ever for roster depth, rotation attributes and length. There are virtually no Wemby's but also no David Johnson's or Jimmer Fredettes. Remind me how we picked David Johnson again. Some teams will have serious diamond in rough players. The Knicks 24 and 25 might turn out really good and we will say why did we not trade Brown for some of that?

the first round talent that came out last year was much better. A lot of starting caliber players