Raptors Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread

[Saul Goodman]

If we're not rebuilding:

Ross + Kleiza to Jazz for Millsap
Bargnani to Bobcats for Ben Gordon
Split MLE between Corey Brewer and DJ Augustin
Use other exception on Sammy D or JO

Lowry/Augustin
Derozan/Gordon
Gay/Brewer
Milsap/Amir
Val/Acy


great team!

[ballislife]

If we're not rebuilding:

Ross + Kleiza to Jazz for Millsap
Bargnani to Bobcats for Ben Gordon
Split MLE between Corey Brewer and DJ Augustin
Use other exception on Sammy D or JO

Lowry/Augustin
Derozan/Gordon
Gay/Brewer
Milsap/Amir
Val/Acy


great team!

That would be a great scenario. Great depth on that team... especially if we can bring back JO at a good price.

[Slackstring701]

soooooo many trade constant trade suggestions that lock us into mediocrity

[carl_english]

bargnani for s&t henderson(around 7 per year starting)

demar for Millsap s&T starting 10 million per.

see ya to lucas and anderson.

resign gray and pietrus

mle on bigman
lle on pg

lowry/telfair/lle
Henderson/Ross
Gay/Fields/pietrus
Millsap/Acy/MLE
JV/Amir/Gray

Gray is scheduled to exercise his player option and Pietrus rly ?

[MikeM]

soooooo many trade constant trade suggestions that lock us into mediocrity

Mediocrity might just get you into the ECF next year.

[witnessraps]

soooooo many trade constant trade suggestions that lock us into mediocrity

Mediocrity might just get you into the ECF next year.

you look at the three remaining teams in the East other than the Heat...the Knicks Pacers and Bulls and we played all 3 of those teams very well this year

[ballislife]

soooooo many trade constant trade suggestions that lock us into mediocrity

Mediocrity might just get you into the ECF next year.

you look at the three remaining teams in the East other than the Heat...the Knicks Pacers and Bulls and we played all 3 of those teams very well this year

This is what makes me confident for us succeeding with the core group that we have.

If we add the right pieces to surround that group, while getting a head coach that can lead this team (I don't think that's Casey because of his limitations offensively), we'll be a good team in the East.

[TheGoodDoctor]

I would kill to have Milsap for DeRozan go down but personally don't see it happening.

[ballislife]

I would kill to have Milsap for DeRozan go down but personally don't see it happening.

I'd rather keep DeMar and trade Ross. He's younger and cheaper... we might be able to add a bad contract like Fields or Bargnani to him and make it happen.

I really like the prospect of completing a sign-and-trade with Utah for one of their two bigs. Jefferson or Millsap would be big additions to this lineup.

[Marvin Martian]

Derozan + Ross for Iman Shumpert, Marcus Camby, and Q Rich


Use MLE on Eric Maynor + Nick Young


Lowry/Maynor
Shumpert/Young/Q
Gay/Fields
Amir/Acy
Val/Camby


Decent team with good upside

[Inevitable]

I like Paul Milsap, but since his career year two seasons ago he has been statistically regressing. Just something to think of.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I would kill to have Milsap for DeRozan go down but personally don't see it happening.

I'd rather keep DeMar and trade Ross. He's younger and cheaper... we might be able to add a bad contract like Fields or Bargnani to him and make it happen.

I really like the prospect of completing a sign-and-trade with Utah for one of their two bigs. Jefferson or Millsap would be big additions to this lineup.

I like the idea of Millsap/Jefferson too but I don't see Utah taking Fields/Bargnani for a one big reason (I used to think they would). They need to re-sign Hayward & Favors in 2014/2015. Both will command significant money. I could see them doing a S&T in order to get a 1st back/young asset but the contracts they recieve would need to be of the expiring variety.

Something like I proposed earlier

To TOR: Millsap
To BRK: Bargnani
To UTA: Hump + 2014 1st (via TOR) (protected)

I hate losing a 1st in a deep draft but I think Millsap pushes us to top 4 in the East. So if we add protection on it (say top 10 protected) it would make it easier.

You conclude the off-season with
- amnestying Kleiza (to avoid luxury tax)
- declining Lucas 1.5 million (too much for a 3rd PG)
- signing a backup PG with part of the MLE
- fill out roster with vet guys for minimum

Lowry / PG / PG
Derozan / Ross / SG
Gay / Fields
Millsap / Amir / Acy
Val / Gray / C

Pretty good team. I would hope Ross would develop into a nice 6th man scoring off the bench. You lose a 1st in 2014 (we can trade this pick once the 2013 draft concludes) but you have a core in place.

[Marvin Martian]

Brooklyn absolutely will not lose their only asset just to get a below average player in Bargs. They already have Teletovic who is a cheaper version of Bargs anyway.

[Lakonomy]

Why does everyone want Milsap so badly? I don't understand. He brings some post scoring to our offense. That is all. He doesn't help with our teams greatest weaknesses in passing and shooting, and he's an average post defender.

Can one of the crowd advocating giving up assets to get him please tell me how he wouldn't be just another overpaid but-he's-almost-an-all-star player on TO?

[Rapsobsessed7]

Brooklyn absolutely will not lose their only asset just to get a below average player in Bargs. They already have Teletovic who is a cheaper version of Bargs anyway.

What's the alternative for them? Use Humps expiring to get who? A boozer trade would likely cost them Brooks and a future 1st. Even then I don't know if Chicago would do it with the way they've been playing. They can't be the team receiving the S&T'd player (they are over the tax apron by 4 million). So their options are limited. Also someone still has to pay Hump 12+ million to do absolutely nothing for them. I doubt teams are going to be banging at Brooklyn's door to get him regardless of his expiring contract. The rationale for Brooklyn would be your buying low on Bargnani and actually saving some cash immediately. You give up no real assets (in terms of young players/picks) to get a PF upgrade. Say whay you want about Bargnani but he is a PF upgrade for them. I dont see any reason for the Lakers to trade Gasol for Hump. I just dont see options for Brooklyn. Bargnani would also compliment that team nicely with spacing in the starting unit.

[Marvin Martian]

Brooklyn absolutely will not lose their only asset just to get a below average player in Bargs. They already have Teletovic who is a cheaper version of Bargs anyway.

What's the alternative for them? Use Humps expiring to get who? A boozer trade would likely cost them Brooks and a future 1st. Even then I don't know if Chicago would do it with the way they've been playing. They can't be the team receiving the S&T'd player (they are over the tax apron by 4 million). So their options are limited. Also someone still has to pay Hump 12+ million to do absolutely nothing for them. I doubt teams are going to be banging at Brooklyn's door to get him regardless of his expiring contract. The rationale for Brooklyn would be your buying low on Bargnani and actually saving some cash immediately. You give up no real assets (in terms of young players/picks) to get a PF upgrade. Say whay you want about Bargnani but he is a PF upgrade for them. I dont see any reason for the Lakers to trade Gasol for Hump. I just dont see options for Brooklyn. Bargnani would also compliment that team nicely with spacing in the starting unit.

Well for starters, they can find a better trade that nets them a better player without involving a middle man (TOR) looking to dump their trash on somebody.


Ryan Anderson
Jason Thompson
David Lee

These guys are much better than Bargs and can be had with a Hump + Brooks package.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Brooklyn absolutely will not lose their only asset just to get a below average player in Bargs. They already have Teletovic who is a cheaper version of Bargs anyway.

What's the alternative for them? Use Humps expiring to get who? A boozer trade would likely cost them Brooks and a future 1st. Even then I don't know if Chicago would do it with the way they've been playing. They can't be the team receiving the S&T'd player (they are over the tax apron by 4 million). So their options are limited. Also someone still has to pay Hump 12+ million to do absolutely nothing for them. I doubt teams are going to be banging at Brooklyn's door to get him regardless of his expiring contract. The rationale for Brooklyn would be your buying low on Bargnani and actually saving some cash immediately. You give up no real assets (in terms of young players/picks) to get a PF upgrade. Say whay you want about Bargnani but he is a PF upgrade for them. I dont see any reason for the Lakers to trade Gasol for Hump. I just dont see options for Brooklyn. Bargnani would also compliment that team nicely with spacing in the starting unit.

Well for starters, they can find a better trade that nets them a better player without involving a middle man (TOR) looking to dump their trash on somebody.


Ryan Anderson
Jason Thompson
David Lee

These guys are much better than Bargs and can be had with a Hump + Brooks package.

Cross David Lee off that list 100%. That's ridiculous to assume Brooks + Hump is enough for Lee. Thompson maybe but Sacramento would need to add 7+ million worth of salary to make that work. Anderson also won't happen, NO signed him, they want him, they aren't looking to salary dump him after 1 year.

[RapsAndJays21]

I really want Josh Smith.

[Marvin Martian]

What's the alternative for them? Use Humps expiring to get who? A boozer trade would likely cost them Brooks and a future 1st. Even then I don't know if Chicago would do it with the way they've been playing. They can't be the team receiving the S&T'd player (they are over the tax apron by 4 million). So their options are limited. Also someone still has to pay Hump 12+ million to do absolutely nothing for them. I doubt teams are going to be banging at Brooklyn's door to get him regardless of his expiring contract. The rationale for Brooklyn would be your buying low on Bargnani and actually saving some cash immediately. You give up no real assets (in terms of young players/picks) to get a PF upgrade. Say whay you want about Bargnani but he is a PF upgrade for them. I dont see any reason for the Lakers to trade Gasol for Hump. I just dont see options for Brooklyn. Bargnani would also compliment that team nicely with spacing in the starting unit.

Well for starters, they can find a better trade that nets them a better player without involving a middle man (TOR) looking to dump their trash on somebody.


Ryan Anderson
Jason Thompson
David Lee

These guys are much better than Bargs and can be had with a Hump + Brooks package.

Cross David Lee off that list 100%. That's ridiculous to assume Brooks + Hump is enough for Lee. Thompson maybe but Sacramento would need to add 7+ million worth of salary to make that work. Anderson also won't happen, NO signed him, they want him, they aren't looking to salary dump him after 1 year.

There is also Derrick Williams and Ersan. The point is that if the Nets are looking for an upgrade at PF, Bargs would be a at the bottom of the list not only because of his production but also the fact that they already have a PF on the roster with a similar skillset for a small faction of bargs' salary.

[Rapsobsessed7]

I could see Derrick Williams maybe for Brooks + pick(s) depending on what Minny plans to do with him. Certainly can't see Ersan though. My point is though they would need to add Brooks + picks to get any other deal done (with limited options available). What would you rather have

Bargnani
Brooks
Picks

Or

Derrick Williams

Ill take the 1st option. Their giving away no real assets and improving their PF position.