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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1041 » by MoneyBall » Thu Feb 6, 2025 7:42 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:https://www.salaryswish.com/trades/players/brandon-ingram

Not sure if this was reported anywhere else, but according to SalarySwish the 2nd the Raptors are giving up in this deal is their 2031 SRP.

Sweet, I might not even be alive by then.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1042 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:59 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:There's a good part of this fanbase that has zero risk tolerance and couldn't make daily decisions if they had to. You should know roughly what a pick is worth, you should be able to put it in a certain category and you should be able to make a decision and live with it, instead of pontificating forever and suffering paralysis by analysis with .... "but but but we don't know what could it have been?".


if realgm ran the Raptors we would've traded Siakam for AJ Griffin


Not just RealGM but most of the raptors media. They whined hard after not getting Hunter and AJ
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1043 » by MEDIC » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:35 am

This is one of rhe deepest Raptor teams I have seen for scoring talent.

Defense is concerning though.

Barnes, Poeltl, Ochai are all proven defenders. IQ is a good help defender, but needs to be paired with an elite POA defender at the guard spot.

Shead and Walter will be good defenders.

Dick, RJ, Ingram & Battle are all sus defenders

Mogbo is a good defender, but not a legit rotation player yet.

This will be interesting to watch though. See how it all unfolds

I like the Ingram trade though. Makes things really interesting.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1044 » by raincityraptors » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:39 am

I have explained why I love this trade in other threads.

I went from seeing it as a treadmill move to paying a very well calculated price to give your stellar medical and development staff a chance to see if they can help a former all-star entering his prime find a new level.

If there weren't concerns we wouldn't have gotten him so cheap. The swing is worth it for the potential upside.

A move like this takes guts. I appreciate them taking the swing.
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Post#1045 » by OhCanada » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:56 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
douggood wrote:pacers pick per fisher

So Siakam became:

Ochai / JaKobe / Ingram / and then space to get Davion / Shead

Assuming we retain Ingram, I wonder if it is still "a bad deal"


You also have to consider that the teams record would be much higher with Siakam so our current 5th overall lottery position would probably be 13th to 18th.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1046 » by hyper316 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 2:01 am

MEDIC wrote:This is one of rhe deepest Raptor teams I have seen for scoring talent.

Defense is concerning though.

Barnes, Poeltl, Ochai are all proven defenders. IQ is a good help defender, but needs to be paired with an elite POA defender at the guard spot.

Shead and Walter will be good defenders.

Dick, RJ, Ingram & Battle are all sus defenders

Mogbo is a good defender, but not a legit rotation player yet.

This will be interesting to watch though. See how it all unfolds

I like the Ingram trade though. Makes things really interesting.


Ochai and Shead are designated POA defenders, I think we need either one on court all the time.

Ochai played beautiful defense on Harden. Shead is 1b to Mitchell 1a on ball defense
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1047 » by MEDIC » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:14 am

hyper316 wrote:
MEDIC wrote:This is one of rhe deepest Raptor teams I have seen for scoring talent.

Defense is concerning though.

Barnes, Poeltl, Ochai are all proven defenders. IQ is a good help defender, but needs to be paired with an elite POA defender at the guard spot.

Shead and Walter will be good defenders.

Dick, RJ, Ingram & Battle are all sus defenders

Mogbo is a good defender, but not a legit rotation player yet.

This will be interesting to watch though. See how it all unfolds

I like the Ingram trade though. Makes things really interesting.


Ochai and Shead are designated POA defenders, I think we need either one on court all the time.

Ochai played beautiful defense on Harden. Shead is 1b to Mitchell 1a on ball defense


I agree.......but I think we all know the SL will be:

Quick
RJ
Ingram
Scottie
Poeltl

I think we need to see how healthy Ingram is, find out who we draft & give this lineup some run before making further trades.

I am hoping whoever we draft........that player can play defense.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1048 » by VancouverRaps » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:32 am

Masai has a Pat Riley mindset


The only issue is that it’s easier to have that mindset running a team in Miami
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1049 » by TimeForChange » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:36 am

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1052 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:40 am

Masai said Ingram is an integral part of the future.
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Post#1053 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:43 am

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1055 » by bape_lovers » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:44 am

Are you sure? Jimmy fiaso saying otherwise?

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1056 » by Brinbe » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:52 am

Used the C word. Yeah, I don't think we'll have to worry about a re-sign lol
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1057 » by Risk101 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 3:59 am

So he's going to be shutdown for the season?

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1058 » by Brinbe » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:03 am

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1059 » by dagger » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:07 am

There isn;t anyone else with big cap space that is going after Ingram this summer. Washington took themselves out of that market when they took on Marcus Smart's contract for a late first round pick this year. I thought Memphis swindled Washington. Basically, Washington bought one of the last picks in the first round for $40 million in future salary. It's going to be a long process in Washington.

My advice to people is don't get too attached to any of the players besides Scottie, because as the team improves, watch Masai look to package assets to get bigger fish. If Masai could upgrade to a franchise point guard, I'd say IQ won't be here until the end of his contract.

I'd still like to see a big power forward - a Banchero comp - to add physicality. I'm feeling certain the league is going to make adjustments to reduce the heavy over-reliance on three point shooting, and that BI's mid-range and Scottie's post work are going to be more important than ever moving forward. A big C or PF might certainly spell the end of Poeltl.

This is just the beginning. Masai likes to take big risks and as the asset base grows, he's not going to be shy about using young talent to get even better young/youngish talent.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1060 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:20 am

Could see us targeting VJ Edgecombe, he's a Raptor pick probably best POA defender.

If we're high enough in draft we could look at Harper instead of Bailey unless the raps feel he's best player available and as an insurance to backup Ingram in case of injury.

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