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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

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grizz did all those trades today so they can have cap space to give JJJ a raise and extension. since he signed a friendly contract and a descending contract, his salary is too low to give him a max extension. they will give him a raise of his low salary and then max him from there.

also griz used up 3 1st on smart coming and going for 39 underwhelming games
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1063 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:27 am

Detroit could make a play for Ingram, Langdon was in NO with Ingram
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1064 » by Scase » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:31 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Detroit could make a play for Ingram, Langdon was in NO with Ingram

He'd be a pretty good fit next to Cade tbh.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1065 » by AHCanada » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:33 am

dagger wrote:There isn;t anyone else with big cap space that is going after Ingram this summer. Washington took themselves out of that market when they took on Marcus Smart's contract for a late first round pick this year. I thought Memphis swindled Washington. Basically, Washington bought one of the last picks in the first round for $40 million in future salary. It's going to be a long process in Washington.

My advice to people is don't get too attached to any of the players besides Scottie, because as the team improves, watch Masai look to package assets to get bigger fish. If Masai could upgrade to a franchise point guard, I'd say IQ won't be here until the end of his contract.

I'd still like to see a big power forward - a Banchero comp - to add physicality. I'm feeling certain the league is going to make adjustments to reduce the heavy over-reliance on three point shooting, and that BI's mid-range and Scottie's post work are going to be more important than ever moving forward. A big C or PF might certainly spell the end of Poeltl.

This is just the beginning. Masai likes to take big risks and as the asset base grows, he's not going to be shy about using young talent to get even better young/youngish talent.


Great points - totally agree. These moves put the raps further in the right direction, but won't be "the team" that's hopefully competing sooner rather than later.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1066 » by vado » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:37 am

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Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Detroit could make a play for Ingram, Langdon was in NO with Ingram

He'd be a pretty good fit next to Cade tbh.


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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1067 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:37 am

What are the chances that Ingram accepts an extension for around what Scottie will be making, so can re-sign Boucher?
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1068 » by niQ » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:39 am

People always talk about wanting top 5 picks. Now we have Ingram, Barrett, and Barnes. And we only had to tank for 1 of them.

Though, hopefully, we get another in this draft.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1069 » by Scase » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:40 am

Psubs wrote:What are the chances that Ingram accepts an extension for around what Scottie will be making, so can re-sign Boucher?

Wtf do you mean "Accepts". If we sign him to a max contract, Masai needs to be fired immediately :lol: Scotties AAV is 45mil, if Masai gives him a contract like that, I think even his biggest defenders would lose their minds. That would be one of the worst contracts in the NBA before he steps foot on the court lol
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Post#1070 » by Pointgod » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:49 am

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Psubs wrote:What are the chances that Ingram accepts an extension for around what Scottie will be making, so can re-sign Boucher?

Wtf do you mean "Accepts". If we sign him to a max contract, Masai needs to be fired immediately :lol: Scotties AAV is 45mil, if Masai gives him a contract like that, I think even his biggest defenders would lose their minds. That would be one of the worst contracts in the NBA before he steps foot on the court lol


Ingram right now is making 35 million. He was asking for a contract from the Pelicans that would pay him 50 million AAV. The guy’s not taking a pay cut so what we end up paying him will be between 35 and 50 so yeah people need to get ready for that. This is literally his last big pay day since he’ll be 28 at the start of next season. If posters actually want Ingram and aren’t just coping there should be no problem paying him…..
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1071 » by mihaic » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:55 am

If we somehow capture the Flagg at #1 it will be interesting to see the SL;
Poeltl - starts, no other C
Scottie - max player, has to start
Flagg - has to start. #1 pick
Ingram - traded for him. Has to start
Quick - 30mil PG
-- this team composition would be odd
-- who will defend an SG and a PG?
-- Will we play Ingram at SG?
-- RJ 6th man? He'd probably

I guess it'll be a good problem to have.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1072 » by Steel » Fri Feb 7, 2025 4:56 am

niQ wrote:People always talk about wanting top 5 picks. Now we have Ingram, Barrett, and Barnes. And we only had to tank for 1 of them.

Though, hopefully, we get another in this draft.
We also got James Wiseman (former #2 pick)

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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1073 » by Scase » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:03 am

Steel wrote:
niQ wrote:People always talk about wanting top 5 picks. Now we have Ingram, Barrett, and Barnes. And we only had to tank for 1 of them.

Though, hopefully, we get another in this draft.
We also got James Wiseman (former #2 pick)

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Yeah man, totally have that former second pick, that we already waived. Players and what position they were picked at 5-9 years ago doesn't mean squat. BI and RJ have both underperformed historically speaking for their draft position. BI less so, but still not by much.

But hey, if draft position is all that matters, why not give Anthony Bennett a call, he was a 1st OA, should make us a better team.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1074 » by djsunyc » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:06 am

east teams that would start ingram right now

cle - yes
bos - no
nyk - yes
ind - yes
mil - yes
mia - yes
det - yes
orl - yes
atl - yes
chi - yes
phi - yes
bkn - yes
cha - yes
was - yes
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1075 » by pingpongrac » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:16 am

djsunyc wrote:east teams that would start ingram right now

cle - yes
bos - no
nyk - yes
ind - yes
mil - yes
mia - yes
det - yes
orl - yes
atl - yes
chi - yes
phi - yes
bkn - yes
cha - yes
was - yes


He’d more than likely start in Boston too. Jrue/Brown/Ingram/Tatum/Porzingis with White being the 6th man.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1076 » by Mister Ze » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:22 am

I believe in this group with Ingram. Unlike when they had Fred Siakam OG, there's enough fire-power to make a post-season run.

Tank away this season for a top 5-10 pick, upgrade a few role players in the summer, and Raps will be a 4-5 seed next year. :rock:
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Post#1077 » by TheRealDeal » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:48 am

I don’t mind that we don’t have to root as hard against the Pacers next season. They’re a fun team
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1078 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:02 am

mihaic wrote:If we somehow capture the Flagg at #1 it will be interesting to see the SL;
Poeltl - starts, no other C
Scottie - max player, has to start
Flagg - has to start. #1 pick
Ingram - traded for him. Has to start
Quick - 30mil PG
-- this team composition would be odd
-- who will defend an SG and a PG?
-- Will we play Ingram at SG?
-- RJ 6th man? He'd probably

I guess it'll be a good problem to have.


In that scenario, my guess would be we do something like RJ for some random backup big who can shoot a little, like John Collins/Vucevic/Zach Collins/Grant Williams (basically Olynyk) to balance things out and we might need to save some money to get under the tax. Add a pick if you thin kwe'd get one.

Poeltl 28 - BIG 16 - Barnes 4
Barnes 30 - Flagg 14
Flagg 18 - Agbaji 23 - Ingram 7
Ingram 23 - Dick/Walter 25
Quickley 30 - Shead 18

and in 2026, we try to grab a shooting big or upgrade on Shead in the draft. Dick and Walter fight to the death for minutes, but also they'll be fine because Ingram will miss time, or we'll play more smallball with Barnes/Flagg/Ingram giving us semi-acceptable frontcourt length and shot blocking and rebounding, and let them playmake, and eat into Shead's minutes if he's worse than Dick and Walter.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1079 » by original fan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:46 pm

If we draft Flagg, RJ will be traded to get a couple of useful vets off the bench, much like Gay trade. We need to have a good back up centre coming our way and a frp hopefully.Dick becomes the 6th man. Ochai becomes also a very much needed player due to his POA defence and 3 point shooting.We could end up easily as a top 6 playoff team as early as next year, while still developing and having a super exciting squad.
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Re: Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st 

Post#1080 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:05 pm

original fan wrote:If we draft Flagg, RJ will be traded to get a couple of useful vets off the bench, much like Gay trade. We need to have a good back up centre coming our way and a frp hopefully.Dick becomes the 6th man. Ochai becomes also a very much needed player due to his POA defence and 3 point shooting.We could end up easily as a top 6 playoff team as early as next year, while still developing and having a super exciting squad.


Have a lot of depth, so consolidate. You can easily give Luke Kornet the MLE, as Boston unlikely matches.

If we get Flagg, trade for Joel Embiid? RJ, Dick, Poeltl and (how many picks?)

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Ingram - Jakobe
SF Scottie - Ochai - Battle
PF Flagg - Mogbo
C Embiid - Kornet - Chomche

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