Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V2.0

[Boogie!]

Dam okc choking

[Tha Cynic]

OKC missing so many layups and short shots.

Not sure if choking is the right term but they've had the shots to be winning and haven't come through

Denver was flat out the better team and closed it out like a championship team.

Jokic missed a ton of shots he usually makes. They're equally matched teams that are grinding it out.

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

[Los_29]

why masai >>> presti...when youre close, you pull the trigger on the big trade to put you over the top.

presti needs to go big game hunting this summer. windows dont stay open forever.

Which Kawhi level trade did Presti pass up?

Presti had his Kawhi level trade already. In fact, it was way worse because at least with Kawhi, any team could’ve had him. No one wanted to take the chance other than Masai. Presti was just in the right place at the right time.

Presti tanks and gets high picks. But at some point, sometimes you have to go for it. I think that’s what djsunyc is referring to. Another SGA trade isn’t going to happen for Presti.

[WaltFrazier]

Leafs lost a tough one in OT. Several goals off tips and deflections, 2 Panther goals bounced off Morgan Reilly. Too bad, Leafs could've had a stranglehold on the series.

[Son Goku 25]

I hate to say it but this series is showing why Jokic is the best player in the league.

He's just bigger and better overall. There's levels to this.

Shai should win the season MVP though and let's see if he can win finals MVP.

Jokic was awful this game. Horrific efficiency, 8 turnovers and terrible defence.

This game was about the supporting cast. Both teams supporting players showed out.

From what I saw late in the game, even though his shot wasn't falling he was still a presence out there. His timely passing, rebounding, contesting, and the lay up to start the ot were difference makers. Again, I didn't see the whole game I started in 4th Q and not judging based off his numbers alone.

I think generally speaking his game is more impactful and doesn't have a stacked team like OKC. He makes his teammates much better too. Best player in the game.

[WaltFrazier]

why masai >>> presti...when youre close, you pull the trigger on the big trade to put you over the top.

presti needs to go big game hunting this summer. windows dont stay open forever.

Which Kawhi level trade did Presti pass up?

Presti had his Kawhi level trade already. In fact, it was way worse because at least with Kawhi, any team could’ve had him. No one wanted to take the chance other than Masai. Presti was just in the right place at the right time.

Presti tanks and gets high picks. But at some point, sometimes you have to go for it. I think that’s what djsunyc is referring to. Another SGA trade isn’t going to happen for Presti.

Right but they're still in position to make a move for Giannis or whoever. I just wondered if there was a specific trade he already passed up.

[SharoneWright]

Denver was flat out the better team and closed it out like a championship team.

Jokic missed a ton of shots he usually makes. They're equally matched teams that are grinding it out.

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

No anger here. Just basketball opinion. You’re the Karen telling people how to behave on a chat site.

“2 great teams”!!!! What an honour to watch NBA basketball on TV!

Got it, dad. We know the teams are good…

[HumbleRen]

I hate to say it but this series is showing why Jokic is the best player in the league.

He's just bigger and better overall. There's levels to this.

Shai should win the season MVP though and let's see if he can win finals MVP.

Jokic was awful this game. Horrific efficiency, 8 turnovers and terrible defence.

This game was about the supporting cast. Both teams supporting players showed out.

From what I saw late in the game, even though his shot wasn't falling he was still a presence out there. His timely passing, rebounding, contesting, and the lay up to start the ot were difference makers. Again, I didn't see the whole game I started in 4th Q and not judging based off his numbers alone.

I think generally speaking his game is more impactful and doesn't have a stacked team like OKC. He makes his teammates much better too. Best player in the game.

Must be nice to be the least inefficient player, and the worst defensive player on the floor with 8 turnovers and still get most of the credit.

I do agree he’s comfortably the best player in the league but I can’t get on board with that for this specific game.

AG, Murray and MPJ get the full credit for me this game. AG was a 2 way monster.

[Tha Cynic]

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

No anger here. Just basketball opinion. You’re the Karen telling people how to behave on a chat site.

“2 great teams”!!!! What an honour to watch NBA basketball on TV!

Got it, dad.

Not two great teams? Why is that so offensive? OKC just choked two games? Denver fluked their way to a championship with pretty much the exact same core? What is your take here?

Why are you so angry, lol? OKC can still win 3 more and win the series. Hope they play better?

I'm honestly so confused.

What are you going on about?

[SharoneWright]

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

No anger here. Just basketball opinion. You’re the Karen telling people how to behave on a chat site.

“2 great teams”!!!! What an honour to watch NBA basketball on TV!

Got it, dad.

Not two great teams? Why is that so offensive? OKC just choked two games? Denver fluked their way to a championship with pretty much the exact same core? What is your take here?

Why are you so angry, lol? OKC can still win 3 more and win the series. Hope they play better?

I'm honestly so confused - I've only seen these type of posts from late night mdenny

What are you going on about?

Not angry. You’re offended. By people defending OKC. Not an uncommon opinion on a message board.


Glad you enjoyed the game!

[mdenny]

Denver was flat out the better team and closed it out like a championship team.

Jokic missed a ton of shots he usually makes. They're equally matched teams that are grinding it out.

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

I couldn't watch it. But I remember there were some concerning stats for OKC's offense during the season while SGA was sitting or sidelined. I think Jdubs is a solid two way player....but also sense he's been a little overrated offensively as a guy who's benefitted ALOT from double-teams on SGA.

They still seem like a team that is simple to gameplan against: shut down SGA at all costs. Which is why I think they have an amazing opportunity to cash in their best assets for Giannis. I think those two would be unstoppable. Someone else here said it...but SGA has a similar "jokic effect" that makes his teammates appear better than they will be on a different team. Chet + jdub + filler/picks should be the cost.

There's not much of a choice for those who think that cost is too much. OKC can't have another max contract with two supermax guys anyways. And they are simply better off with giannis than they are with chet/dubs

They're better off getting rid of the two guys who are guaranteed incoming max contracts and keep their depth guys that cost between 18 and 30 per year. Also...by giving up chet/jdub...they will retain more picks they can use to find much needed efficient contracts to fill out the roster.

[Los_29]

Which Kawhi level trade did Presti pass up?

Presti had his Kawhi level trade already. In fact, it was way worse because at least with Kawhi, any team could’ve had him. No one wanted to take the chance other than Masai. Presti was just in the right place at the right time.

Presti tanks and gets high picks. But at some point, sometimes you have to go for it. I think that’s what djsunyc is referring to. Another SGA trade isn’t going to happen for Presti.

Right but they're still in position to make a move for Giannis or whoever. I just wondered if there was a specific trade he already passed up.

Yeah they are in good position. But let’s not forget, they are only in a good position because of that SGA trade. Masai built his team already then got Kawhi to get them to the next level. OKC is where they are because of SGA.

Presti very rarely makes those big moves. Only one I can think of is Paul George. If they lose this year though then I think they try to make a big splash.

[mdenny]

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

I couldn't watch it. But I remember there were some concerning stats for OKC's offense during the season while SGA was sitting or sidelined. I think Jdubs is a solid two way player....but also sense he's been a little overrated offensively as a guy who's benefitted ALOT from double-teams on SGA.

They still seem like a team that is simple to gameplan against: shut down SGA at all costs. Which is why I think they have an amazing opportunity to cash in their best assets for Giannis. I think those two would be unstoppable. Someone else here said it...but SGA has a similar "jokic effect" that makes his teammates appear better than they will be on a different team. Chet + jdub + filler/picks should be the cost.

There's not much of a choice for those who think that cost is too much. OKC can't have another max contract with two supermax guys anyways. And they are simply better off with giannis than they are with chet/dubs

They're better off getting rid of the two guys who are guaranteed incoming max contracts and keep their depth guys that cost between 18 and 30 per year. Also...by giving up chet/jdub...they will retain more picks they can use to find much needed efficient contracts to fill out the roster.

The other thing I think seems clear is that giannis and SGA have similar values, humility and level-headedness. Both are rarely injured. It would be the best pair in the league by far and ZERO drama/locker room concerns.

I could see them peeling off 3 to 4 chips in a row.

[Los_29]

OKC missing so many layups and short shots.

Not sure if choking is the right term but they've had the shots to be winning and haven't come through

Denver was flat out the better team and closed it out like a championship team.

Jokic missed a ton of shots he usually makes. They're equally matched teams that are grinding it out.

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

We will find out who’s better soon. The reality is Jokic had a terrible game and Denver still won.

When it mattered most, Denver took over, not OKC. Denver rose to the occasion, OKC wilted.

This is playoff basketball. There is a different level of intensity, not every team is cut out for it. OKC is such a great, young team. They are learning valuable lessons so far and I think they’ll respond well in game 4.

[Tha Cynic]

OKC is the better team. They’re not evenly matched. OKC blew it. Run this game for infinity with game theory —- OKC wins.

Jokic went 8/25 and 0/10 from 3 lol.

If OKC was the better team they would have won. I don't know about infinity times, but I watched this game and Denver is leading 2-1 in the series. Tough playoff game where both team' stars struggled, but Denver as a team stepped up and won.

I'm not sure what "blew it" means when both stars struggled, and I have no idea who wins this series but some of you acting like this is a video game with ratings.

Also, why do I sense anger? It was a great basketball game lol

I couldn't watch it. But I remember there were some concerning stats for OKC's offense during the season while SGA was sitting or sidelined. I think Jdubs is a solid two way player....but also sense he's been a little overrated offensively as a guy who's benefitted ALOT from double-teams on SGA.

They still seem like a team that is simple to gameplan against: shut down SGA at all costs. Which is why I think they have an amazing opportunity to cash in their best assets for Giannis. I think those two would be unstoppable. Someone else here said it...but SGA has a similar "jokic effect" that makes his teammates appear better than they will be on a different team. Chet + jdub + filler/picks should be the cost.

There's not much of a choice for those who think that cost is too much. OKC can't have another max contract with two supermax guys anyways. And they are simply better off with giannis than they are with chet/dubs

They're better off getting rid of the two guys who are guaranteed incoming max contracts and keep their depth guys that cost between 18 and 30 per year. Also...by giving up chet/jdub...they will retain more picks they can use to find much needed efficient contracts to fill out the roster.

Yeah, they're in the perfect spot to become even better if they have the guts to make the offer for a player like Giannis. SGA needs another superstar beside him and them waiting on Williams or Chet to get there may hurt them before their financial situation becomes less flexible. They can still win it all this season, but if they don't this year, imo they need to take a big swing.

[bballsparkin]

I hate to say it but this series is showing why Jokic is the best player in the league.

He's just bigger and better overall. There's levels to this.

Shai should win the season MVP though and let's see if he can win finals MVP.

Jokic was awful this game. Horrific efficiency, 8 turnovers and terrible defence.

This game was about the supporting cast. Both teams supporting players showed out.

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It's called gravity Ren. Gravity and Jokic oozes it even when he struggles. Plus Murray is from out of space come playoffs.

[HumbleRen]

I hate to say it but this series is showing why Jokic is the best player in the league.

He's just bigger and better overall. There's levels to this.

Shai should win the season MVP though and let's see if he can win finals MVP.

Jokic was awful this game. Horrific efficiency, 8 turnovers and terrible defence.

This game was about the supporting cast. Both teams supporting players showed out.

'
It's called gravity Ren. Gravity and Jokic oozes it even when he struggles. Plus Murray is from out of space come playoffs.

I know what gravity is.

Every superstar has gravity. I’m not giving the superstar most of the credit for being horrible on defence, 8 turnovers and a 37% TS. Sorry.

I think SGA and Jokic were terrible for their standards, sue me.

[bballsparkin]

Not angry. You’re offended. By people defending OKC. Not an uncommon opinion on a message board.


Glad you enjoyed the game!

lol, you called him a Karen! own it.

[Los_29]

And how bad was Hartenstein? He’s a weird player, sometimes looks like a fantastic energy big with some good touch around the basket and passing ability. Other times looks like he doesn’t belong in the NBA. lol. Guy was air balling 2 footers in crunch time. That dude is making like 30 million a year.

[bballsparkin]

Jokic was awful this game. Horrific efficiency, 8 turnovers and terrible defence.

This game was about the supporting cast. Both teams supporting players showed out.

'
It's called gravity Ren. Gravity and Jokic oozes it even when he struggles. Plus Murray is from out of space come playoffs.

I know what gravity is.

Every superstar has gravity. I’m not giving the superstar most of the credit for being horrible on defence, 8 turnovers and a 37% TS. Sorry.

I think SGA and Jokic were terrible for their standards, sue me.

He bumps and grinds and wears them down and then makes nice passes. I love SGA but he doesn't do that. I'm a peace loving Canadian who doesn't believe in suing. Plus my lawyer tells me it's not profitable to pursue.