YogurtProducer wrote:Bruin wrote:Scottie already a more reliable player in the clutch than Demar ever was. Wild
Funniest thing is Demar is 4 on that list lmao
Tied with Scottie yeah. But we all know what playoff Demar is
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YogurtProducer wrote:Bruin wrote:Scottie already a more reliable player in the clutch than Demar ever was. Wild
Funniest thing is Demar is 4 on that list lmao


TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible
TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible

HiJiNX wrote:TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible
Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
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Reeko wrote:HiJiNX wrote:TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible
Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
Initially I was going to say that there is a debate with Vince, but then I saw that he was a 22 year old rookie.
Then I looked at T Mac's numbers as a 20 year old and they are eerily similar to Scottie's.
Scottie's #s: 15.3/7.5/3.5/1.1/0.7 on 49/30/74 splits
Tracy's #s: 15.4/6.3/3.3/1.1/1.9 on 45/28/71 splits
Scottie gets the edge there, but it's really close.
This was T-Mac's last season with us, and the following year in Orlando he put up: 26.8/7.5/4.6/1.5/1.5 on 46/36/73 splits. Can you imagine if Scottie took a leap like that in year 2? Granted, the team would have to be willing to see him average about 10 more shots per game. One thing that surprised me when looking at T-Mac's stats was that he was never a really good FT shooter, and only hit 80% from the line once in his career.
Reeko wrote:HiJiNX wrote:TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible
Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
Initially I was going to say that there is a debate with Vince, but then I saw that he was a 22 year old rookie.
Then I looked at T Mac's numbers as a 20 year old and they are eerily similar to Scottie's.
Scottie's #s: 15.3/7.5/3.5/1.1/0.7 on 49/30/74 splits
Tracy's #s: 15.4/6.3/3.3/1.1/1.9 on 45/28/71 splits
Scottie gets the edge there, but it's really close.
This was T-Mac's last season with us, and the following year in Orlando he put up: 26.8/7.5/4.6/1.5/1.5 on 46/36/73 splits. Can you imagine if Scottie took a leap like that in year 2? Granted, the team would have to be willing to see him average about 10 more shots per game. One thing that surprised me when looking at T-Mac's stats was that he was never a really good FT shooter, and only hit 80% from the line once in his career.

Courtside wrote:Reeko wrote:HiJiNX wrote:Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
Initially I was going to say that there is a debate with Vince, but then I saw that he was a 22 year old rookie.
Then I looked at T Mac's numbers as a 20 year old and they are eerily similar to Scottie's.
Scottie's #s: 15.3/7.5/3.5/1.1/0.7 on 49/30/74 splits
Tracy's #s: 15.4/6.3/3.3/1.1/1.9 on 45/28/71 splits
Scottie gets the edge there, but it's really close.
This was T-Mac's last season with us, and the following year in Orlando he put up: 26.8/7.5/4.6/1.5/1.5 on 46/36/73 splits. Can you imagine if Scottie took a leap like that in year 2? Granted, the team would have to be willing to see him average about 10 more shots per game. One thing that surprised me when looking at T-Mac's stats was that he was never a really good FT shooter, and only hit 80% from the line once in his career.
That was TMac's *third* NBA season, not rookie, so there's that to consider also. I know Tracy didn't play college ball, but look at the maturity difference between the two, and it's easy to see how Scottie is far more preferable to try to build around.
He's somewhere between 2nd and 3rd year Giannis, with a similar type of composure, but with an already broader skillset and better multipositional defense.
I agree with everyone who is saying that the excitement level around a prospect is crazy high, and it should be. He's smart, mature, works hard, and while he doesn't have the flashiness of some other high flyers, he really has no ceiling at this point. Anything is possible and he's on a team that is both very good at helping young guys improve, but also a team that has a full understanding of what players of his archetype can do. They'll do much more to help Scottie succeed than any team in Vince or Tracy's careers did for them.
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HiJiNX wrote:TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible
Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
Kingsway_fan wrote:HiJiNX wrote:TheDunc wrote:Ive been watching basketball going on 20+ years and i have never been this invested and excited about a player. Having Scottie just makes me feel like we'll be alright for the next 10+ years! just incredible
Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
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Joker wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:HiJiNX wrote:Best prospect we have ever had. And I don’t think it’s a debate.
HOf 8 time allstar superstar VC says hi....
In terms of pure talent, you're right --- you don't get many more talented prospects than Vince. But in terms of the drive, work ethic, toughness, desire to win, leadership, not backing down, etc. --- all the qualities of a champion player --- that's where Scottie seems to have a massive advantage over Vince. The question with Vince always was "How badly does he want to be the best and to win?" So far that hasn't been a remote question with Scottie, by all accounts.
vulture wrote:Joker wrote:Kingsway_fan wrote:
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In terms of pure talent, you're right --- you don't get many more talented prospects than Vince. But in terms of the drive, work ethic, toughness, desire to win, leadership, not backing down, etc. --- all the qualities of a champion player --- that's where Scottie seems to have a massive advantage over Vince. The question with Vince always was "How badly does he want to be the best and to win?" So far that hasn't been a remote question with Scottie, by all accounts.
I don't think people were asking about Vince's desire, work ethic or toughness in his first 3 seasons in the league. it's when he started to suffer the Jumper's knee that people questioned how hard he was working to get back. He just didn't get better with the raptors and blew up in New Jersey.
I always thought Vince quit on the team before getting traded, but we'll have to see how Scottie responds to adversity when it knocks on his doorstep at some point.
Joker wrote:vulture wrote:Joker wrote:
In terms of pure talent, you're right --- you don't get many more talented prospects than Vince. But in terms of the drive, work ethic, toughness, desire to win, leadership, not backing down, etc. --- all the qualities of a champion player --- that's where Scottie seems to have a massive advantage over Vince. The question with Vince always was "How badly does he want to be the best and to win?" So far that hasn't been a remote question with Scottie, by all accounts.
I don't think people were asking about Vince's desire, work ethic or toughness in his first 3 seasons in the league. it's when he started to suffer the Jumper's knee that people questioned how hard he was working to get back. He just didn't get better with the raptors and blew up in New Jersey.
I always thought Vince quit on the team before getting traded, but we'll have to see how Scottie responds to adversity when it knocks on his doorstep at some point.
It maybe didn’t come up in Vince’s rookie year, but in the 2nd/3rd years, you had Vince’s horrendous showings in both series against New York where his mental poise was questioned, the game 7 where he left earlier that day for a graduation ceremony to the disapproval of the organization and his teammates, etc.