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Post#1081 » by Spida888 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 7:56 pm

HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.

Pretty much this, don't think it would happen. Yet, it would be interesting if Warriors either lose the finals or just want to maximize their run with Steph. Having OG guard the opposing best wing is definitely nice to have especially with Green on the decline.

I am very high on Kuminga since the draft, so will definitely consider something centered around Kuminga + Moody for OG (don't really care about Wiseman). That's 2 rookies deals locked up for years. OG could possibly be gone in a couple of years.

With Precious' ascension I'm more willing to take on a risk like this.
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Post#1082 » by tecumseh18 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 8:47 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.

Pretty much this, don't think it would happen. Yet, it would be interesting if Warriors either lose the finals or just want to maximize their run with Steph. Having OG guard the opposing best wing is definitely nice to have especially with Green on the decline.

I am very high on Kuminga since the draft, so will definitely consider something centered around Kuminga + Moody for OG (don't really care about Wiseman). That's 2 rookies deals locked up for years. OG could possibly be gone in a couple of years.

With Precious' ascension I'm more willing to take on a risk like this.


100% Precious's ability to defend on the perimeter makes trading OG palatable, for the right return. And I've been a total OG-stan since his rookie season. But Nurse mentioned in his end-of-season that he wanted to go with more conventional lineups next year, so one of Gary or OG has to go.

Obviously, we trust Masai to get the highest return, and make the best draft pick. No anxiety there. I liked Moody when we were picking at #7. If we stayed at #7 and Kuminga had fallen to us, I would have been ecstatic. It looks like the Raps would have chosen Giddey if Kuminga went before him, which obviously would have been fine. (man, what a draft!)
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Post#1083 » by Los_29 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:14 pm

HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.


Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.
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Post#1084 » by OGLife » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:44 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.


Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.
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Post#1085 » by Los_29 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:52 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.


Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.
They can trade Wiggins, Wiseman and Kuminga for Rudy


Probably would need to add some picks too. OG is actually a better fit in my opinion even though he likely isn’t available. If you gave up Wiggins you’re giving up your best perimeter defender and not getting anyone back in return. Gobert would elevate their defense but there will be times where they go small and Gobert would be on the bench.

After watching these playoffs I’m not thinking about how we can get a Gobert. I’m thinking about how we can add more players like OG.
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Post#1086 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:15 pm

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.


Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.


They have other assets to move, they're not moving Kuminga to extend Curry's run.
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Post#1087 » by Los_29 » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:34 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.


Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.


They have other assets to move, they're not moving Kuminga to extend Curry's run.


What other assets do they have?

They will absolutely include Jonathan Kuminga in a package if they can get a good-great player in return. This isn't even up for debate. You really think they will waste the tail end of Curry's career to develop Jonathan Kuminga? LOL. Curry is 34 years old. He's not 28.
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Post#1088 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:38 pm

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.


They have other assets to move, they're not moving Kuminga to extend Curry's run.


What other assets do they have?

They will absolutely include Jonathan Kuminga in a package if they can get a good-great player in return. This isn't even up for debate. You really think they will squander the tail end of Curry's career to develop Jonathan Kuminga? LOL.


People said this on draft day, it didn't happen lol. Kuminga is their bridge into the future. Wiggins who is currently making 40M, Klay who is looking very replaceable due to Poole, Draymond who is a shell of himself at the moment are all way more likely candidates to be moved.

They have the largest luxury tax bill in the NBA, they're going to be looking to reduce that bill, not add to it.
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Post#1089 » by Los_29 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:06 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
They have other assets to move, they're not moving Kuminga to extend Curry's run.


What other assets do they have?

They will absolutely include Jonathan Kuminga in a package if they can get a good-great player in return. This isn't even up for debate. You really think they will squander the tail end of Curry's career to develop Jonathan Kuminga? LOL.


People said this on draft day, it didn't happen lol. Kuminga is their bridge into the future. Wiggins who is currently making 40M, Klay who is looking very replaceable due to Poole, Draymond who is a shell of himself at the moment are all way more likely candidates to be moved.

They have the largest luxury tax bill in the NBA, they're going to be looking to reduce that bill, not add to it.


It didn't happen because teams weren't willing to give Golden State what they wanted.

And you still didn't answer my question. In fact you just further proved my point. What other assets do they have? Wiggins makes 35 million a year, Klay also earns around that amount and is in his 30's. Draymond makes a lot of money as well and all of them are such important pieces to the team. And have you been watching the finals? Poole is averaging 23 minutes a night. His minutes have been going down with each series. Why do you think that is? LOL.

Make no mistake about it, Kuminga will get moved if the right player becomes available.
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Post#1090 » by alienchild » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:09 am

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HumbleRen wrote:That trade isn't happening for both sides. Kuminga is their future. Masai wants to win now with Pascal and FVV so he definitely isn't trading OG for a 19 year old.

If it was up to me ? I'd probably do that trade if it included Wiseman and Moody but it'll never happen lol.


Do the Warriors want to win more championships? If they do then they do this deal in a heartbeat without hesitation.

Kuminga hasn’t played any meaningful minutes in these finals. Imagine having a guy like OG out there to defend Tatum/Brown? This is a 5-6 game series win if they had OG.

Only team not doing this is us. People have a tendency to overrate prospects. This league is all about winning. You have one of the best guards of all-time in Steph. You try to take advantage of that. If you can just plug in an elite 3+D player with the skills to put up 20ppg into your lineup you do it.

Curry isn’t getting any younger. They don’t want to look back 10 years from now thinking they could’ve won a couple more championships but didn’t because they had Kuminga and Wiseman buried at the end of their bench. Lol.


If Kuminga and Wiseman haven't shown enough that over the next 2-3 seasons they can help extend GS's window, no way should they be Raptors at the cost of a very good asset. We're not here to extend their window. That's their job.
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Post#1091 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:20 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
What other assets do they have?

They will absolutely include Jonathan Kuminga in a package if they can get a good-great player in return. This isn't even up for debate. You really think they will squander the tail end of Curry's career to develop Jonathan Kuminga? LOL.


People said this on draft day, it didn't happen lol. Kuminga is their bridge into the future. Wiggins who is currently making 40M, Klay who is looking very replaceable due to Poole, Draymond who is a shell of himself at the moment are all way more likely candidates to be moved.

They have the largest luxury tax bill in the NBA, they're going to be looking to reduce that bill, not add to it.


It didn't happen because teams weren't willing to give Golden State what they wanted.

And you still didn't answer my question. In fact you just further proved my point. What other assets do they have? Wiggins makes 35 million a year, Klay also earns around that amount and is in his 30's. Draymond makes a lot of money as well and all of them are such important pieces to the team. And have you been watching the finals? Poole is averaging 23 minutes a night. His minutes have been going down with each series. Why do you think that is? LOL.

Make no mistake about it, Kuminga will get moved if the right player becomes available.


You think they'll give up on Poole because isn't performing at an elite level at age 23 ??? Ridiculous lol, he's been their 2nd best scorer this entire playoff run. They're not giving up their future who's on a rookie contract for a win now player when they have 4 guys all making 30m +. What a ridiculous notion.
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Post#1092 » by Los_29 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:27 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
People said this on draft day, it didn't happen lol. Kuminga is their bridge into the future. Wiggins who is currently making 40M, Klay who is looking very replaceable due to Poole, Draymond who is a shell of himself at the moment are all way more likely candidates to be moved.

They have the largest luxury tax bill in the NBA, they're going to be looking to reduce that bill, not add to it.


It didn't happen because teams weren't willing to give Golden State what they wanted.

And you still didn't answer my question. In fact you just further proved my point. What other assets do they have? Wiggins makes 35 million a year, Klay also earns around that amount and is in his 30's. Draymond makes a lot of money as well and all of them are such important pieces to the team. And have you been watching the finals? Poole is averaging 23 minutes a night. His minutes have been going down with each series. Why do you think that is? LOL.

Make no mistake about it, Kuminga will get moved if the right player becomes available.


You think they'll give up on Poole because isn't performing at an elite level at age 23 ??? Ridiculous lol, he's been their 2nd best scorer this entire playoff run. They're not giving up their future who's on a rookie contract for a win now player when they have 4 guys all making 30m +. What a ridiculous notion.


When did I say they are going to give up on Poole? You need to read my posts. You said Klay is looking very replaceable due to Poole and I said Poole's minutes have been going down with each series while Klay's minutes seem to be going up.

You still have not answered my question. What other assets do they have? You mentioned they have other assets and yet haven't mentioned a single one. In fact, you just mentioned players that are either overpaid and/or nearing the end of their careers.
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Post#1093 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:37 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
It didn't happen because teams weren't willing to give Golden State what they wanted.

And you still didn't answer my question. In fact you just further proved my point. What other assets do they have? Wiggins makes 35 million a year, Klay also earns around that amount and is in his 30's. Draymond makes a lot of money as well and all of them are such important pieces to the team. And have you been watching the finals? Poole is averaging 23 minutes a night. His minutes have been going down with each series. Why do you think that is? LOL.

Make no mistake about it, Kuminga will get moved if the right player becomes available.


You think they'll give up on Poole because isn't performing at an elite level at age 23 ??? Ridiculous lol, he's been their 2nd best scorer this entire playoff run. They're not giving up their future who's on a rookie contract for a win now player when they have 4 guys all making 30m +. What a ridiculous notion.


When did I say they are going to give up on Poole? You need to read my posts. You said Klay is looking very replaceable due to Poole and I said Poole's minutes have been going down with each series while Klay's minutes seem to be going up.

You still have not answered my question. What other assets do they have? You mentioned they have other assets and yet haven't mentioned a single one. In fact, you just mentioned players that are either overpaid and/or nearing the end of their careers.


They're still assets lol. You've ignored my point. They ALREADY have the highest luxury tax bill in the league they can't afford to pay Poole, pay everyone else and also bring in another star player if they ever decide to trade Kuminga/Wiseman.
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Post#1094 » by Los_29 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:53 am

HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
You think they'll give up on Poole because isn't performing at an elite level at age 23 ??? Ridiculous lol, he's been their 2nd best scorer this entire playoff run. They're not giving up their future who's on a rookie contract for a win now player when they have 4 guys all making 30m +. What a ridiculous notion.


When did I say they are going to give up on Poole? You need to read my posts. You said Klay is looking very replaceable due to Poole and I said Poole's minutes have been going down with each series while Klay's minutes seem to be going up.

You still have not answered my question. What other assets do they have? You mentioned they have other assets and yet haven't mentioned a single one. In fact, you just mentioned players that are either overpaid and/or nearing the end of their careers.


They're still assets lol. You've ignored my point. They ALREADY have the highest luxury tax bill in the league they can't afford to pay Poole, pay everyone else and also bring in another star player if they ever decide to trade Kuminga/Wiseman.


Do you know what "assets" mean? They are defined as "a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality." Those aren't assets. Minnesota had to trade a lottery pick just to get out from Wiggins contract. Klay is making over 40 million a year until 2024. And I don't think they are going to break up their core three of Klay, Dray and Curry. So what other assets do they have?

There is a reason why Kuminga, Moody and Wiseman are always rumoured in deals and it's because they are the most likely to be moved.
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Post#1095 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:59 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
When did I say they are going to give up on Poole? You need to read my posts. You said Klay is looking very replaceable due to Poole and I said Poole's minutes have been going down with each series while Klay's minutes seem to be going up.

You still have not answered my question. What other assets do they have? You mentioned they have other assets and yet haven't mentioned a single one. In fact, you just mentioned players that are either overpaid and/or nearing the end of their careers.


They're still assets lol. You've ignored my point. They ALREADY have the highest luxury tax bill in the league they can't afford to pay Poole, pay everyone else and also bring in another star player if they ever decide to trade Kuminga/Wiseman.


Do you know what "assets" mean? They are defined as "a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality." Those aren't assets. Minnesota had to trade a lottery pick just to get out from Wiggins contract. Klay is making over 40 million a year until 2024. And I don't think they are going to break up their core three of Klay, Dray and Curry. So what other assets do they have?

There is a reason why Kuminga, Moody and Wiseman are always rumoured in deals and it's because they are the most likely to be moved.


Wiggins has fixed his value immensely since the Minny days, that's not even worth bringing up. Klay will always have value in the league due to being a shooter.

Also by that logic, OG and Pascal are likely to be moved ? They're always rumored in deals.
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Post#1096 » by Los_29 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:18 am

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Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
They're still assets lol. You've ignored my point. They ALREADY have the highest luxury tax bill in the league they can't afford to pay Poole, pay everyone else and also bring in another star player if they ever decide to trade Kuminga/Wiseman.


Do you know what "assets" mean? They are defined as "a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality." Those aren't assets. Minnesota had to trade a lottery pick just to get out from Wiggins contract. Klay is making over 40 million a year until 2024. And I don't think they are going to break up their core three of Klay, Dray and Curry. So what other assets do they have?

There is a reason why Kuminga, Moody and Wiseman are always rumoured in deals and it's because they are the most likely to be moved.


Wiggins has fixed his value immensely since the Minny days, that's not even worth bringing up. Klay will always have value in the league due to being a shooter.

Also by that logic, OG and Pascal are likely to be moved ? They're always rumored in deals.


Klay is 32 years old coming off a torn ACL and a ruptured achilles. He's also due 83 million over the next two seasons. You just said that Klay is looking replaceable but now you think he's worth 83 million over the next two seasons? Do you like paying shooters 40+ million a year?

Wiggins has rebuilt his value but 33 million is a lot to pay for a complimentary player and his contract is also expiring at the end of next season.

OG and Pascal are always rumoured in deals now? :lol:
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Post#1097 » by no dice » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:18 am

Any chance we could get Klay instead of kum bucket with a package of OG? There's a huge salary difference but it could be another one of those Kawhi type acquisition
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Post#1098 » by HumbleRen » Mon Jun 13, 2022 2:22 am

Los_29 wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Do you know what "assets" mean? They are defined as "a useful or valuable thing, person, or quality." Those aren't assets. Minnesota had to trade a lottery pick just to get out from Wiggins contract. Klay is making over 40 million a year until 2024. And I don't think they are going to break up their core three of Klay, Dray and Curry. So what other assets do they have?

There is a reason why Kuminga, Moody and Wiseman are always rumoured in deals and it's because they are the most likely to be moved.


Wiggins has fixed his value immensely since the Minny days, that's not even worth bringing up. Klay will always have value in the league due to being a shooter.

Also by that logic, OG and Pascal are likely to be moved ? They're always rumored in deals.


Klay is 32 years old coming off a torn ACL and a ruptured achilles. He's also due 83 million over the next two seasons. You just said that Klay is looking replaceable but now you think he's worth 83 million over the next two seasons? Do you like paying shooters 40+ million a year?

Wiggins has rebuilt his value but 33 million is a lot to pay for a complimentary player and his contract is also expiring at the end of next season.

OG and Pascal are always rumoured in deals now? :lol:


Of course lol, they're constantly rumoured in deals lol.

Just look at the post above me, Klay still got some value :lol:
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Post#1099 » by mademan » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:15 am

no dice wrote:Any chance we could get Klay instead of kum bucket with a package of OG? There's a huge salary difference but it could be another one of those Kawhi type acquisition


lol, Klays a scrub.
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Post#1100 » by no dice » Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:34 am

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no dice wrote:Any chance we could get Klay instead of kum bucket with a package of OG? There's a huge salary difference but it could be another one of those Kawhi type acquisition


lol, Klays a scrub.


Ummm no... He is not 100% yet but when he gets back into form we will have 0 chance getting him.
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