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2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

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Post#1081 » by alpngso » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:11 pm

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Ok, definitely do not draft this guy. lol
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Post#1082 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:14 pm

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Ok, definitely do not draft this guy. lol

He’s actually good. I don’t mind him being delusional with confidence.
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Post#1083 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:20 pm

SpezNc wrote:I think that concept is hard to follow . It’s unclear who is available and who is not when they say “value pick “.

Like TDS is need of Philly but a value pick one spot down? Like really ? Same with Furphy. He is the need of Orlando but value pick for us.

Same with the top 3 where each of Sarr,Clignan and Risacher are each one time value pick and one time the need .

While I appreciated the effort of Givony / Woo and maybe I am alone in that opinion but it feels like this mock draft was content to get content .

I guess the key point is Givony/Woo appears really high on Furphy to pegged him as a VALUE pick at 19. For someone most often then not mock a bit lower it was a bit surprising to me


I'm reading it as 2 different mocks:
- Givony's mock is based on need
- Woo's mock is based on BPA

So in your Furphy example, Givony is giving him to Orlando based on need but he's not BPA on Woo's board who has Collier ahead of him when Orlando picks so he falls to us as BPA.
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Post#1084 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:23 pm

Tyler smith numbers don't jump out at you. Other than stretching the floor, I dont know what else he does for you since the defense isn't good either. 2nd round talent IMO. g league ignite was such a failure
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Post#1085 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:29 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Tyler smith numbers don't jump out at you. Other than stretching the floor, I dont know what else he does for you since the defense isn't good either. 2nd round talent IMO. g league ignite was such a failure

Besides Buzelis. But yes, I agree on Smith. He reminds me of Marquees Chriss
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Post#1087 » by deeps6x » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:38 pm

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Ok, definitely do not draft this guy. lol

ESPN says he is our pick at #31.

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Post#1088 » by TNRaps4life » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:47 pm

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Post#1089 » by Raptorfan2012 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:49 pm

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Ok, definitely do not draft this guy. lol

ESPN says he is our pick at #31.

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I like him at 31. We can use a big euro wing.
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Post#1090 » by PoundTown » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:53 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:I don't think George fits the Raps profile, especially in this draft range. He isn't an analytics darling, he really isn't that versatile on either end, he wasn't a consistent/elite producer in college and he isn't a crazy athlete or abnormally big for his position . Maybe they take a shot on him if he's there at 31, but Id be surprised if they took him 19.


I think the main skills here are size/ length, defensive instincts and the fact that he can really stroke it for an 18 year old prospect that I believe just got to the states? May be wrong there, but being able to hit those percentages and with many of those shots coming at NBA range, not just a toes on the line type of guy, could be the calling card. The guy kind of has a profile that is like a Cam Johnson, pre-injury Otto Porter, better shooting Kyle Anderson. A mix of those guys is his ceiling to me, he's just very young and we don't know if he will make it. But, in my opinion he has the shot taking and making down from distance. We all know that's a very valuable skill, and a decent one to bet on at 31, and I'd be open to it at 19, especially if you buy his defence being above average, he'd definitely have a fit on this roster.
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Post#1091 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:57 pm

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Russillo said on Simmon's pod that some of the teams he's spoken to don't have Sarr and Riscaher top 2. They talked about Clingan going number 1 being very believable.
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Post#1092 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:57 pm

Wasn't high on Djurisic previously as nothing he does really stands out to me.
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Post#1093 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:02 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:His people insist he spends like 5 minutes a day making tik toks. This is just going to be more and more common as time goes on. I think there are legit concerns that he's pretty one-note as a smaller Gary Trent Jr. Wouldn't be the worst choice but he's definitely down the list of guys I'd like us to take with that pick.


Of course there are concerns he's just a shooter, but this draft absolutely reeks and he possesses an elite NBA skill with lots of intangibles (2x GPOTY, high RSCI rank, high level competitor, shows up in big games dating back to HS, is part of winning teams, exceptionally high basketball character). On top of that he had the highest finishing % at the rim among projected 1st round guards outside of Topic, granted he only got there less than 2/3rds of the amount Devin Carter did but Carter's shooting is unreliable. Maybe the rebounding regresses because of the stats of guys with 6'3.5 wingspans in the league so that is a concern but maybe he'll stay around a 6/36 guy. The margin of error is very slim for him but it's even slimmer for a lot of others guys who most people think will be better than him.

The only players that get me excited this draft are Sheppard, Clingan, Topic, Edey and Flip. Then there are guys like Holmes and McCain and then some shots in the dark on physical specimens like Sarr, Missi and Salaun. Nothing else is blatantly exciting. Even the small school sleepers are bland. Mogbo would be more exciting if he actually had a jump shot so watch Masai draft him and get him to work on a 3 pointer that sits in the 28-34% range on limited volume for his career.
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Post#1094 » by grant101 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:03 pm

Took me a little longer than some, but I'm coming around to KJ Simpson @ 31 if we miss out on Collier/Carter/McCain @ 19 and if nobody interesting drops. I'm inherently dubious of smaller combo guards with meh athleticism, but the kid is a baller and a great shooter under different circumstances. I don't think he creates the kind of advantages you want out of your pg, but he can light it up and plays hard.

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Post#1095 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:04 pm

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Russillo said on Simmon's pod that some of the teams he's spoken to don't have Sarr and Riscaher top 2. They talked about Clingan going number 1 being very believable.


Clingan should go #1 if ATL is keeping Trae. It would make absolutely no sense to take either of those two french players, ATL's goal is either win now with Trae or trade him and select Topic or Edey in my opinion.
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Post#1097 » by deeps6x » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:15 pm

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That's interesting, as ESPN's own database shows him as more likely to be picked at 23 or 24 then at 12.

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Post#1098 » by Indeed » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:27 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:I don't think George fits the Raps profile, especially in this draft range. He isn't an analytics darling, he really isn't that versatile on either end, he wasn't a consistent/elite producer in college and he isn't a crazy athlete or abnormally big for his position . Maybe they take a shot on him if he's there at 31, but Id be surprised if they took him 19.


I think the main skills here are size/ length, defensive instincts and the fact that he can really stroke it for an 18 year old prospect that I believe just got to the states? May be wrong there, but being able to hit those percentages and with many of those shots coming at NBA range, not just a toes on the line type of guy, could be the calling card. The guy kind of has a profile that is like a Cam Johnson, pre-injury Otto Porter, better shooting Kyle Anderson. A mix of those guys is his ceiling to me, he's just very young and we don't know if he will make it. But, in my opinion he has the shot taking and making down from distance. We all know that's a very valuable skill, and a decent one to bet on at 31, and I'd be open to it at 19, especially if you buy his defence being above average, he'd definitely have a fit on this roster.


More like injured Porter. His vertical and athleticism are at the bottom across the board. He plays below the rim. I don't think he fits the Raps profile at all. Someone like Mogbo would fit the Raps profile at 31.
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Post#1099 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:48 pm

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Post#1100 » by PoundTown » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:48 pm

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OakleyDokely wrote:I don't think George fits the Raps profile, especially in this draft range. He isn't an analytics darling, he really isn't that versatile on either end, he wasn't a consistent/elite producer in college and he isn't a crazy athlete or abnormally big for his position . Maybe they take a shot on him if he's there at 31, but Id be surprised if they took him 19.


I think the main skills here are size/ length, defensive instincts and the fact that he can really stroke it for an 18 year old prospect that I believe just got to the states? May be wrong there, but being able to hit those percentages and with many of those shots coming at NBA range, not just a toes on the line type of guy, could be the calling card. The guy kind of has a profile that is like a Cam Johnson, pre-injury Otto Porter, better shooting Kyle Anderson. A mix of those guys is his ceiling to me, he's just very young and we don't know if he will make it. But, in my opinion he has the shot taking and making down from distance. We all know that's a very valuable skill, and a decent one to bet on at 31, and I'd be open to it at 19, especially if you buy his defence being above average, he'd definitely have a fit on this roster.


More like injured Porter. His vertical and athleticism are at the bottom across the board. He plays below the rim. I don't think he fits the Raps profile at all. Someone like Mogbo would fit the Raps profile at 31.


I mean, Kyle Anderson, while maybe a tad lengthier has made a career on many of the same pros and cons as Kyshawn, but with less of a jumpshot, considerably less at same age. A guy like Danny Green can barely get up as a 3 and D guy at 6'6" and basically has zero off dribble game. Kyshawn just seems like the prototypical dude that everyone is looking at what he can't do and ignoring what he can do. His cons are playing below the rim and lack of burst, his pros are defence, near elite jumpshooting for a player his age, ability to handle and see the floor and process the game, and good size and length for a 3 man, just needs to get stronger, which he almost certainly will.

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