2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7

[PhilBlackson]

I don't think Demin will go top 10 but it is looking more and more like Maluach and Queen will fall out of the top 10

I have a hard time believing we wouldn't take a big if one of them are on the board

I’ll genuinely be shocked if Maluach is still available and we pass on him.

[Indeed]

Your role player is based on your franchise player. Would our championship team better off with Maluach instead Gasol? I dont think so, particularly, he has a few postup against Embiid.

Here you assume KM is a finished product. Would 2019 be better with the best possible version of KM? Absolutely!

Your claim is flawed, he can be in a championship team only if the star player on that team fits with him. Championship teams require a passing big than he is not a good fit there. Which Eastern team in that category? Celtics, Knicks, etc. are using a passing C

I think some archtypes work on any team, like a 3+D OG type... that fits everywhere. A switchable 7'2 center that will dunk everything in sight? I think that works everywhere as well.

There are only a very few players who added new skills from college to professional. The arguement of someone who has potential yet not shown in college is basically close to zero. Maluach with his low passing rate is pretty difficult to project he will have that type of skill.

As for 3 and D, that is not true that every team needs one. It is only those teams who has no star player at that position. You drafting star players would be the higher priority than 3 and D. At 9, I think most teams would still gamble for a star player.

[MEDIC]

If Demin was 6'10", I'd have more inerest. We already have two pretty skilled 6'8" SF/ PF' though. Borh of whom facilitate.

[tsherkin]

Essengue is a bit slow footed (at least in terms of slashing) and is not much of an explosive leaper. He's is lanky/length af though.

Doesn't he only have a +1" wingspan? That doesn't sound lengthy at all, quite the opposite.

He's 6'10, 6'11 wingspan. Skinny af.

Fleming has less shot creation ability imo and seems like a pure role player. Also an ok pick, but again..I don't see all-star potential, unless it's like one of those Draymond Green, Jarrett Allen type of all-stars.

Yeah, but he looks like a nasty transition threat who can stick 3s and defend well. Not a shot creator, very weak at the line, weak range, etc. Not super exciting. Looks like very little other than a transition threat, no?

[S.W.A.N]

I don't think Demin will go top 10 but it is looking more and more like Maluach and Queen will fall out of the top 10

I have a hard time believing we wouldn't take a big if one of them are on the board

I’ll genuinely be shocked if Maluach is still available and we pass on him.

If we do, it means that we absolutely love someone else enough to ignore positional need. Khaman is by far the easiest guy to slot into need in the top of the draft.

[S.W.A.N]

Essengue is a bit slow footed (at least in terms of slashing) and is not much of an explosive leaper. He's is lanky/length af though.

Doesn't he only have a +1" wingspan? That doesn't sound lengthy at all, quite the opposite.

He's 6'10, 6'11 wingspan. Skinny af.

Fleming has less shot creation ability imo and seems like a pure role player. Also an ok pick, but again..I don't see all-star potential, unless it's like one of those Draymond Green, Jarrett Allen type of all-stars.

Yeah, but he looks like a nasty transition threat who can stick 3s and defend well. Not a shot creator, very weak at the line, weak range, etc. Not super exciting. Looks like very little other than a transition threat, no?

If I'm not mistaken Essengue's measurements are from last year so let's wait and see if he's grown.

Fleming is exciting if you like 3 and D bigs. He's mobile and lengthy. Him and Scottie could be a dynamite defensive pairing.

[MEDIC]

I am starting to be drawn towards Flemings varsatility. Super long. Super fast for his size, can shoot the 3, good shot blocker.

Positionally, I would develop him as a 4/5, with the ability to play some 3. He has a higher standing reach than Bam.

He checks a lot of checkboxes for the Raps in terms of need & is also very skilled. His body is also NBA ready.

[bballsparkin]

If Demin was 6'10", I'd have more inerest. We already have two pretty skilled 6'8" SF/ PF' though. Borh of whom facilitate.

Height (barefoot): 6'8 1/4

That's practically 6 10 in shoes.

[MEDIC]

If Demin was 6'10", I'd have more inerest. We already have two pretty skilled 6'8" SF/ PF' though. Borh of whom facilitate.

Height (barefoot): 6'8 1/4

That's practically 6 10 in shoes.

I mean a legit 6'10 with a 7'2" wingspan. Big man size.

By that metric, Ingram is 6'10"

[bballsparkin]

I mean a legit 6'10 with a 7'2" wingspan. Big man size.

By that metric, Ingram is 6'10"

Well, you saw him play. He's not even close to that. You're talking about Magic hah. Demin is still pretty damn tall though,.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I have a hard time believing we wouldn't take a big if one of them are on the board

What position is Queen playing for the Raptors?

Back-up 5

What are the chances of us trading back to get the hawks picks. Seems the more interesting picks will be there

[bballsparkin]

What are the chances of us trading back to get the hawks picks. Seems the more interesting picks will be there

Someone like Kon or Fears drops it could be valuable. But I doubt they trade it.

[Spates]

I think we draft Demin, CMB, Jase, or Kon. The FO has being moving away from toolsy players and going after well-rounded players instead.

[Rainman66]

Man would love to have another pick here in the 11-16 range, aside from one of the Fleming/Boyles/Bryant/Essengue forwards it seems like one of Bailey/Queen/Fears/KM can fall into our lap, heres to hoping

[Indeed]

I don't think Demin will go top 10 but it is looking more and more like Maluach and Queen will fall out of the top 10

I have a hard time believing we wouldn't take a big if one of them are on the board

What position is Queen playing for the Raptors?

PF, can play spot backup C, I suppose.

[HangTime]

What are the chances of us trading back to get the hawks picks. Seems the more interesting picks will be there

Someone like Kon or Fears drops it could be valuable. But I doubt they trade it.

Do you think the Hawks would trade #13 and #22 for #9?

[Clutch0z24]

I don't think Demin will go top 10 but it is looking more and more like Maluach and Queen will fall out of the top 10

I have a hard time believing we wouldn't take a big if one of them are on the board

Lol people here might be disappointed if either Queen/Mal are avail at 9th there is a better percent chance we take them compared to the other guys mentioned.....Masai will not pass up the potential and skills on either of these bigs...And if they are both some how avail at 9 Masai picks the one he likes more ....Fills a need + Prolly BPA....Logic is Logic...Mal is more a project but hes 18 with more upside than the majority of the names here and Queen would contribute day 1 for a team trying to win now....I don't see them falling that much (Mocks are Mocks) but if they do Masai will be rubbing his hands like birdman...

[RoteSchroder]

Essengue is a bit slow footed (at least in terms of slashing) and is not much of an explosive leaper. He's is lanky/length af though.

Doesn't he only have a +1" wingspan? That doesn't sound lengthy at all, quite the opposite.

He's 6'10, 6'11 wingspan. Skinny af.

Fleming has less shot creation ability imo and seems like a pure role player. Also an ok pick, but again..I don't see all-star potential, unless it's like one of those Draymond Green, Jarrett Allen type of all-stars.

Yeah, but he looks like a nasty transition threat who can stick 3s and defend well. Not a shot creator, very weak at the line, weak range, etc. Not super exciting. Looks like very little other than a transition threat, no?

I was probably thinking of his standing reach (9'3.25)

[JCP11]

I think we draft Demin, CMB, Jase, or Kon. The FO has being moving away from toolsy players and going after well-rounded players instead.

I need someone to sell me on Demon and Jase. I like Demin's size but he's not a good shooter or slasher/finisher at the rim. I like Jase scoring mentality but he's not a floor general and doesn't elevate his teammates imo. I might be way off on both maybe guys who like them can tell me what I didn't see cuz I wouldn't be thrilled if we draft any of them at #9. I even think Pettiford is a better small PG than Jase and he won't be a lottery pick.

[Jim Todd Jr.]

Your role player is based on your franchise player. Would our championship team better off with Maluach instead Gasol? I dont think so, particularly, he has a few postup against Embiid.

Here you assume KM is a finished product. Would 2019 be better with the best possible version of KM? Absolutely!

Your claim is flawed, he can be in a championship team only if the star player on that team fits with him. Championship teams require a passing big than he is not a good fit there. Which Eastern team in that category? Celtics, Knicks, etc. are using a passing C

I think some archtypes work on any team, like a 3+D OG type... that fits everywhere. A switchable 7'2 center that will dunk everything in sight? I think that works everywhere as well.

There are only a very few players who added new skills from college to professional. The arguement of someone who has potential yet not shown in college is basically close to zero. Maluach with his low passing rate is pretty difficult to project he will have that type of skill.

As for 3 and D, that is not true that every team needs one. It is only those teams who has no star player at that position. You drafting star players would be the higher priority than 3 and D. At 9, I think most teams would still gamble for a star player.

There are only a few players that added new skills in the pros? Thats a crazy statement lol.