2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[Rapsobsessed7]

would anyone do

Klezia + #5 + 2012 2nd for Gallo + #22

Calderon / Bayless / PG (#22 Josh Shelby, Nolan Smith)
Derozan / Barbosa
Gallo / Johnson / Weems
Amir / Davis
Bargnani / C (FA) / Alabi

- we could throw 6-7 million at C like Jordan.

I like Gallo, but I'm not sure I would prefer him to the upside of a Perry Jones/Barnes (or Irving/Kanter/Valanciunas)... I would do something like this though:
Mozgov+Gallo+Lawson for Bargs+#5. We address two positions of need with good young players. I think Ed and Ty would have some good chemistry together, and DeMar/Danillo would make a lethal scoring combo at the 2/3. Perhaps we could get lucky and land a solid C in free agency, but even if we can't we just need Mozgov to rebound and defend. I'd look to move Jose/Kleiza if at all possible.

Mozgov/Reggie?
Davis/Amir
Gallo/Johnson/Kleiza
DeMar/Barbosa
Lawson//Bayless/Jose

i dont see them trading Lawson though. My point was with the rumor of Barnes going back, Gallo would be the next best SF i would expect it to play out like

1. Irving (CLE)
2. Kanter/Val (MIN)
3. P.Jones/D.Williams/Sullinger (SAC)
4. D.Williams/Sullinger/P.Jones (WAS)
5. (one of the 3 above would be there, doubt its P.Jones. Which would leave Val/Kanter as the other option as BPA IMO)

which is when id pull the trigger and DEN could get a PF like Sullinger/D.Williams. We could get a true SF and grab a PG prospect with #22

maybe instead something like.

To Toronto: Felton + Gallo + Koufos
To Denver: Beno + Klezia + #5
To Sacramento: Calderon

Felton / Bayless / Vet PG
Derozan / Barbosa / Weems
Gallo / J.Johnson
Davis / A.Johnson / Koufos
Bargnani / Center / Alabi

DEN allows Lawson to start, Beno comes off the bench and they solve that potential problem. Add someone like D.Williams/Sullinger to that team

Lawson / Udrih / Smith (#22)
Affalo / Smith
Chandler / Klezia / Forbes
Sullinger / Harrington
Nene / Andersen / Mozgov

[Rapsobsessed7]

You know what I think this could happen. I totally see it for both

To TOR: Gallo + Koufos + #22
To DEN: Klezia + Alabi + #5

* contingent on Barnes not declaring

DEN gets a PF with the pick and Chandler becomes the solution at the 3. Alabi is some Ujiri loves and IMO he'd go after him. He wanted a pick for Gallo too. BC wanted Gallo and other than Barnes he might be the best SF prospect. Klezia backs up Chandler at the 3

Toronto gets Gallo and can pick a PG like Shelby while shedding Klezia so Johnson gets backup minutes

Calderon / Bayless / Shelby
Derozan / Barbosa
Galinari / Johnson / Weems (2 million)
Davis / Johnson
Bargnani / Pryzbilla (2 million) / Koufos

I think that'd be solid

[bboyskinnylegs]

You know what I think this could happen. I totally see it for both

To TOR: Gallo + Koufos + #22
To DEN: Klezia + Alabi + #5

* contingent on Barnes not declaring

DEN gets a PF with the pick and Chandler becomes the solution at the 3. Alabi is some Ujiri loves and IMO he'd go after him. He wanted a pick for Gallo too. BC wanted Gallo and other than Barnes he might be the best SF prospect. Klezia backs up Chandler at the 3

Toronto gets Gallo and can pick a PG like Shelby while shedding Klezia so Johnson gets backup minutes

Calderon / Bayless / Shelby
Derozan / Barbosa
Galinari / Johnson / Weems (2 million)
Davis / Johnson
Bargnani / Pryzbilla (2 million) / Koufos

I think that'd be solid

yeah, I'd do that. We move Kleiza and roll with Gallo and JJ at SF. We could take a flyer on high upside athletic bigs like Lucas Nogueira (Bebe)/Jeremy Tyler with the #22 (or perhaps guard prospects like Selby/CoJo/Marshall/Nolan Smith/Harrow if they declare and are still available). Or maybe package the #22 with Bayless and see if we can get a late lotto/mid 1st rounder (perhaps we could land one of Knight/Jimmer/Burks/Donatas(as long as we trade Bargs)

[miruss2001]

Klieza is an unmovable asset with the state of his knee and his contract. Try again.

[Kreamy]

detroit wont move monroe hes the only bright spot on their franchise

How about Ed Davis, Barbosa, Bayless and Alabi to Detroit for Monroe and Rip Hamilton?

[Deuces]

Klieza is an unmovable asset with the state of his knee and his contract. Try again.

Well, Turk was an unmovable asset..

[bboyskinnylegs]

detroit wont move monroe hes the only bright spot on their franchise

How about Ed Davis, Barbosa, Bayless and Alabi to Detroit for Monroe and Rip Hamilton?

I like the idea of bringing Monroe here, but that package is not going to get it done. I would absolutely love to pair him and Davis here though, I think they would make a great starting frontcourt for us longterm.

How about Bargs+our pick for Monroe+CV ?

Detroit likely wouldn't give up Monroe for our 1st by itself, but in this deal we swap CV for Bargs as well.

Monroe/Amir
Davis/CV
JJ/Kleiza
DD/Barbosa
Jose/Bayless

Maybe we could also add a SF like Chandler/Young/Green in free agency as well.

[Rapsobsessed7]

You know what I think this could happen. I totally see it for both

To TOR: Gallo + Koufos + #22
To DEN: Klezia + Alabi + #5

* contingent on Barnes not declaring

DEN gets a PF with the pick and Chandler becomes the solution at the 3. Alabi is some Ujiri loves and IMO he'd go after him. He wanted a pick for Gallo too. BC wanted Gallo and other than Barnes he might be the best SF prospect. Klezia backs up Chandler at the 3

Toronto gets Gallo and can pick a PG like Shelby while shedding Klezia so Johnson gets backup minutes

Calderon / Bayless / Shelby
Derozan / Barbosa
Galinari / Johnson / Weems (2 million)
Davis / Johnson
Bargnani / Pryzbilla (2 million) / Koufos

I think that'd be solid

yeah, I'd do that. We move Kleiza and roll with Gallo and JJ at SF. We could take a flyer on high upside athletic bigs like Lucas Nogueira (Bebe)/Jeremy Tyler with the #22 (or perhaps guard prospects like Selby/CoJo/Marshall/Nolan Smith/Harrow if they declare and are still available). Or maybe package the #22 with Bayless and see if we can get a late lotto/mid 1st rounder (perhaps we could land one of Knight/Jimmer/Burks/Donatas(as long as we trade Bargs)

Id take the BPA. Nolan Smith might be the that person but if Cojo is there you take him and run. Hes a Canadian and would be a welcomed addition. Denver IMO would look pretty nice

Lawson / Felton
Affalo / Smith
Chandler / Klezia
Sullinger or Kanter (#5) / Harrington / Mozgov
Nene / Andersen / Alabi

Klieza is an unmovable asset with the state of his knee and his contract. Try again.

i dont think he would be to a team that knows him very well in Denver. What might work better for DEN is something like.

To DEN: Barbosa + #5
To TOR: Gallo + Koufos + #22

* maybe we also get the Knicks pick thrown in (2014?)

Barbosa would fill in for JRs departure.

Lawson / Felton
AA / Barbosa
Chandler / SF
Sullinger / Harrington
Nene / Andersen / Mozgov

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Gallo / Johnson
Davis / Amir
Bargnani / Center (Klezia + #22?)

* Klezia + #22 for Thabeet + #35?

We could take a flyer on him, worse comes to worse we decline his option next year and hes an expiring contract saving 9 million. We sign a vet center and look to develop Thabeet still.

[ronleroy]

i hope next season gets cancelled, and the new cba will give other teams the chance to compete... i fear the changes will not go far enough, and lakers will continue to have stack teams year after year.

[crosswalkryan]

if it gets cancelled, do we get to pick in the same spot in the lotto?

[Kreamy]

How about Bargs+our pick for Monroe+CV ?

Detroit likely wouldn't give up Monroe for our 1st by itself, but in this deal we swap CV for Bargs as well.

Monroe/Amir
Davis/CV
JJ/Kleiza
DD/Barbosa
Jose/Bayless

Maybe we could also add a SF like Chandler/Young/Green in free agency as well.

Would definitely be down for this trade - just as long as Kyrie Irving is gone by the time we pick. I think Davis and Monroe would make a great front court as well.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Jerryd Bayless or Leandro Barbosa for Jason Thompson

[vergogna]

team potentially interested in Bargnani?

Bucks
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2011.html
- they have Bogut
- they currently do not have great PFs
- they really can't score

[flatjacket1]

team potentially interested in Bargnani?

Bucks
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIL/2011.html
- they have Bogut
- they currently do not have great PFs
- they really can't score

I'd wait till draft night and look at moving Bargnani for dead contracts and picks.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Actually, if you're looking for a possible Bargnani trade, then Sacramento/Anaheim might be the team to look at.

They are considerably under the cap, to the point where they can take on Andrea's deal if they so choose, and we can get back some pieces in return.

What would be a fair deal for both teams in your estimation? From reading their board, apparently, their pick could be had, but I'm guessing they attempt to deal it for a Danny Granger or Iguodala first.

Andrea Bargnani for Jason Thompson and Omri Casspi?

[Rapsobsessed7]

Actually, if you're looking for a possible Bargnani trade, then Sacramento/Anaheim might be the team to look at.

They are considerably under the cap, to the point where they can take on Andrea's deal if they so choose, and we can get back some pieces in return.

What would be a fair deal for both teams in your estimation? From reading their board, apparently, their pick could be had, but I'm guessing they attempt to deal it for a Danny Granger or Iguodala first.

Andrea Bargnani for Jason Thompson and Omri Casspi?

i could see them doing Bayless + Bargnani for their pick if its not Irving.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Actually, if you're looking for a possible Bargnani trade, then Sacramento/Anaheim might be the team to look at.

They are considerably under the cap, to the point where they can take on Andrea's deal if they so choose, and we can get back some pieces in return.

What would be a fair deal for both teams in your estimation? From reading their board, apparently, their pick could be had, but I'm guessing they attempt to deal it for a Danny Granger or Iguodala first.

Andrea Bargnani for Jason Thompson and Omri Casspi?

i could see them doing Bayless + Bargnani for their pick if its not Irving.

Well, I'm thinking that they either use that pick on Barnes or deal it for a SF. With their potential move to Anaheim, the Kings may be one of the teams looking to make a splash. I expect them to be active in the trade market, and may be even in Free Agency. They've got money to spend. If they didn't have Cousins, for example, they'd be after Marc Gasol, and might still be.

So, I don't think they deal the pick for Andrea. I can, however, foresee them dealing a couple of prospects that are in need of a change of scenery (Thompson, Casspi, even Garcia), so perhaps that may suffice.

Even with the Granger and Bargnani acquisitions, they'd still be under 50 mil. in cap space, if we take on some salary for them, or they disperse it elsewhere. The difference would create a TPE for us, I think.

From our standpoint, Thompson is a 6'11'', 250 lb. PF/C that we'd pair with Ed Davis in the frontcourt. Thompson has a nice midrange game offensively, but I'm not sure about his defence. And then, with Casspi or Garcia, we'd get a complementary piece who fills in as a shooter off the bench. I actually prefer Garcia, because of his ability to backup at SG for DeMar and mainly defend.

I'm not totally sure that this deal makes us better, just throwing out a possible scenario for a Andrea trade.

[flatjacket1]

Actually, if you're looking for a possible Bargnani trade, then Sacramento/Anaheim might be the team to look at.

They are considerably under the cap, to the point where they can take on Andrea's deal if they so choose, and we can get back some pieces in return.

What would be a fair deal for both teams in your estimation? From reading their board, apparently, their pick could be had, but I'm guessing they attempt to deal it for a Danny Granger or Iguodala first.

Andrea Bargnani for Jason Thompson and Omri Casspi?

i could see them doing Bayless + Bargnani for their pick if its not Irving.

None of this would be at all realistic without taking back dead weight.

Sure they are under the cap, but when your not winning you have to be. Asking the owner to take a 6M or whatever jump in payroll is crazy unless it really makes them better. A lot of people forget about that, unless you followed baseball it would be hard to remember.

For any trade scenario involving them to be somewhat realistic it would require us taking on Udrih or Dalembert. I would be a fan of sending them Bargnani + Bayless for Beno and this years first (top 5 protected) and next years first (top 5 protected) and possible some future 2nds.

[flatjacket1]

Heres an idea:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=4efrems

Bargnani for Clevelands TPE and next years first pick, unprotected.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Actually, if you're looking for a possible Bargnani trade, then Sacramento/Anaheim might be the team to look at.

They are considerably under the cap, to the point where they can take on Andrea's deal if they so choose, and we can get back some pieces in return.

What would be a fair deal for both teams in your estimation? From reading their board, apparently, their pick could be had, but I'm guessing they attempt to deal it for a Danny Granger or Iguodala first.

Andrea Bargnani for Jason Thompson and Omri Casspi?

i could see them doing Bayless + Bargnani for their pick if its not Irving.

None of this would be at all realistic without taking back dead weight.

Sure they are under the cap, but when your not winning you have to be. Asking the owner to take a 6M or whatever jump in payroll is crazy unless it really makes them better. A lot of people forget about that, unless you followed baseball it would be hard to remember.

For any trade scenario involving them to be somewhat realistic it would require us taking on Udrih or Dalembert. I would be a fan of sending them Bargnani + Bayless for Beno and this years first (top 5 protected) and next years first (top 5 protected) and possible some future 2nds.

Beno Udrih actually has a more favorable deal than Francisco Garcia. And we could use Garcia as a SG/SF. Plus, they may look to hang on to Udrih, because he's been pretty decent for them, and has adequate chemistry with Tyreke Evans. This is, of course, assuming that they don't land a PG through the draft or via FA.

Also, I think Bargnani/Cousins could be a nice combo. Good size, length to go up against the likes of the Lakers, SA, etc.