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2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1101 » by Morris_Shatford » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:09 pm

RE: Reddish

What am I missing here?

He is going to likely end up costing any team that gets him an FRP or a pretty good prospect and while he has had his moments this season, ultimately he is a streaky shooter, who is not exactly the model of health, who would be coming off the bench here, who is likely due an extension this summer to avoid free agency-apalooza in 2023 when he is an RFA.

I like the kid but if we are moving expirings and an FRP for anyone this year (and I can't imagine Masai moves the FRP) we have more pressing positional needs IMO.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1102 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:35 pm

https://hoopshype.com/2022/01/12/lakers-expressing-interest-in-gary-trent-jr/

Michael Scotto: The Los Angeles Lakers have been doing their due diligence around the league, and expressed interest in Raptors guard Gary Trent Jr., according to league sources. One of several players they’ve checked in on. However, I don’t see a deal happening between those teams at this time since it would likely have to involve Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn from a salaries perspective.
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raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#1103 » by alpngso » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:37 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:https://hoopshype.com/2022/01/12/lakers-expressing-interest-in-gary-trent-jr/

Michael Scotto: The Los Angeles Lakers have been doing their due diligence around the league, and expressed interest in Raptors guard Gary Trent Jr., according to league sources. One of several players they’ve checked in on. However, I don’t see a deal happening between those teams at this time since it would likely have to involve Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn from a salaries perspective.
Source: Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype



Lakers said no to Lowry for THT. No way they use THT for GTJ lol
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1104 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:44 pm

LOOOOOL they are a joke, sorry we can't trade Kevin Durant since it would require THT. Sorry
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:https://hoopshype.com/2022/01/12/lakers-expressing-interest-in-gary-trent-jr/

Michael Scotto: The Los Angeles Lakers have been doing their due diligence around the league, and expressed interest in Raptors guard Gary Trent Jr., according to league sources. One of several players they’ve checked in on. However, I don’t see a deal happening between those teams at this time since it would likely have to involve Talen Horton-Tucker and Kendrick Nunn from a salaries perspective.
Source: Michael Scotto @ HoopsHype


Nor would most people see a deal happening between both those teams;

To make this work it basically must be GTJ for THT and Nunn simply because the guy above THT on the Lakers Salary list makes 35m and the guy below Nunn makes 1.7m unless a third team is involved.

THT is fine and Nunn is fine, neither is a player most teams should want to move a starter for let alone one that is 22 and made a major leap forward this season.

So it comes down to FRPs in which the Lakers can offer the 2027 because of the pick swap option the Pelis have on the 2024 or 2025 FRP.

Baring the Lakers getting some secondary assets very quickly they are likely more a threat to chase him in the summer of 2023 when GTJ likely opts out.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1106 » by bluerap23 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:55 pm

I am curious to know what the trade demand for Caris Levert is? Cleveland is rumoured to be offering Rubio contract and draft capital. I would be willing to do Dragic and a lottery protected 1st. He would definitely help fix the bench scoring issues. Good 6th man that would fit this team well.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1107 » by Morris_Shatford » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:58 pm

bluerap23 wrote:I am curious to know what the trade demand for Caris Levert is? Cleveland is rumoured to be offering Rubio contract and draft capital. I would be willing to do Dragic and a lottery protected 1st. He would definitely help fix the bench scoring issues. Good 6th man that would fit this team well.


I would be reluctant to offer any draft capital for LeVert;
Even if you get "good" LeVert you get him for a season and a half in a window where we likely aren't serious contenders.

If LeVert could be had for Dragic and some minor assets by all means;
Otherwise, I am confident to be able to find a few effective bench scorers via the MLE this summer.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1108 » by Bruin » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:01 pm

The Lakers have nothing that would be interesting for us to do this

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Post#1109 » by Madhouse » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:13 pm

PrinceAli wrote:The Lakers have nothing that would be interesting for us to do this

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I would take AD
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Post#1110 » by bboyskinnylegs » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:25 pm

I'm sure in the Lakers' minds they think they can pawn Westbrook off to us for Gary
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Post#1111 » by Consequence » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:37 pm

Los Angeles has seven second-round picks at its disposal as well. There's a potential path for the Clippers to move Eric Bledsoe to Toronto for Goran Dragic, for example, which would allow Los Angeles to hold Dragic's bird rights entering this summer. That's the type of transaction that a gap-year mentality can afford a front office.



From Jake Fischer's article about the Clippers being sellers today : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952391-paul-george-injury-could-dictate-la-clippers-direction-at-trade-deadline

I think that moving Dragic for Bledsoe and a 2nd would give us enough tax room to sign Wilson or whoever. I'd like it to be this year's 2nd but I'm not sure how the value works out when the Clippers would be adding to this year's tax bill but removing Bled's approx. 4 million from next year.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1112 » by billy_hoyle » Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:52 pm

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PrinceAli wrote:The Lakers have nothing that would be interesting for us to do this

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I would take AD


Legitimately.

That's the only move that makes sense from our perspective. Maybe Boucher, Flynn, GTJ and a 1st for AD.

There's no way they think Nunn and THT are going to get GTJ, is there?
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Post#1113 » by pilkoids » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:00 pm

I'm a little confused about the direction of the team for this season. It clearly looks like they're trying to win games.

Is management just hoping that the talent eventually falls short or some key players sit out long stretches with minor injuries for the 2nd half of the season? It's looking like a mid teens pick at this rate.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1114 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:10 pm

Consequence wrote:
Los Angeles has seven second-round picks at its disposal as well. There's a potential path for the Clippers to move Eric Bledsoe to Toronto for Goran Dragic, for example, which would allow Los Angeles to hold Dragic's bird rights entering this summer. That's the type of transaction that a gap-year mentality can afford a front office.



From Jake Fischer's article about the Clippers being sellers today : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952391-paul-george-injury-could-dictate-la-clippers-direction-at-trade-deadline

I think that moving Dragic for Bledsoe and a 2nd would give us enough tax room to sign Wilson or whoever. I'd like it to be this year's 2nd but I'm not sure how the value works out when the Clippers would be adding to this year's tax bill but removing Bled's approx. 4 million from next year.


When he's not trying to the hit the home run shot, Bledsoe is a good two-way player. He was overused in the ECF series against us, because Brogdon was trying to protect his body for free agency (or so I've heard). I'm not offended by such a trade.

But Raps ideally need two more guys off the bench who can be relied on to hit a 3. We'd only have Boucher to trade if Dragic goes out in a Bledsoe deal. Boucher's been great lately, but his 3-ball seems gone for good.

Otherwise, it would have to be Dragic for Gordon, who's shooting 43% from 3 this year. He just turned 33. Of course, there will be other teams that want him. Who has a comparable expiring deal to trade?
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1115 » by Consequence » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:12 pm

^ Yeah, I'd rather do something spicier with the Dragic contract as well but there may just not be opportunity to do so. A Bledsoe deal would be something right at the deadline once other options have been exhausted.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1116 » by Madhouse » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:18 pm

Consequence wrote:
Los Angeles has seven second-round picks at its disposal as well. There's a potential path for the Clippers to move Eric Bledsoe to Toronto for Goran Dragic, for example, which would allow Los Angeles to hold Dragic's bird rights entering this summer. That's the type of transaction that a gap-year mentality can afford a front office.



From Jake Fischer's article about the Clippers being sellers today : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952391-paul-george-injury-could-dictate-la-clippers-direction-at-trade-deadline

I think that moving Dragic for Bledsoe and a 2nd would give us enough tax room to sign Wilson or whoever. I'd like it to be this year's 2nd but I'm not sure how the value works out when the Clippers would be adding to this year's tax bill but removing Bled's approx. 4 million from next year.


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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1117 » by mtcan » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:52 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Consequence wrote:
Los Angeles has seven second-round picks at its disposal as well. There's a potential path for the Clippers to move Eric Bledsoe to Toronto for Goran Dragic, for example, which would allow Los Angeles to hold Dragic's bird rights entering this summer. That's the type of transaction that a gap-year mentality can afford a front office.



From Jake Fischer's article about the Clippers being sellers today : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952391-paul-george-injury-could-dictate-la-clippers-direction-at-trade-deadline

I think that moving Dragic for Bledsoe and a 2nd would give us enough tax room to sign Wilson or whoever. I'd like it to be this year's 2nd but I'm not sure how the value works out when the Clippers would be adding to this year's tax bill but removing Bled's approx. 4 million from next year.


can we get Terance Mann?

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Post#1118 » by mtcan » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:59 pm

pilkoids wrote:I'm a little confused about the direction of the team for this season. It clearly looks like they're trying to win games.

Is management just hoping that the talent eventually falls short or some key players sit out long stretches with minor injuries for the 2nd half of the season? It's looking like a mid teens pick at this rate.

With the way Fred and Pascal are playing...I think the plan is to keep this rolling. Barring a rash of season ending injuries to Fred or Pascal and others or a long losing streak while everyone is healthy...this team is going to continue to try winning and making the playoffs.
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1119 » by dagger » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:09 pm

mtcan wrote:
pilkoids wrote:I'm a little confused about the direction of the team for this season. It clearly looks like they're trying to win games.

Is management just hoping that the talent eventually falls short or some key players sit out long stretches with minor injuries for the 2nd half of the season? It's looking like a mid teens pick at this rate.

With the way Fred and Pascal are playing...I think the plan is to keep this rolling. Barring a rash of season ending injuries to Fred or Pascal and others or a long losing streak while everyone is healthy...this team is going to continue to try winning and making the playoffs.


Most likely the case. There are growing rumblings about SAC breaking the team up again - and if that propels them towards taking Philly's Simmons+Harris for whatever, it may give Toronto a chance to put Dragic's deal into play for something as part of such a trade
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Re: 2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread 

Post#1120 » by Morris_Shatford » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:54 pm

Consequence wrote:
Los Angeles has seven second-round picks at its disposal as well. There's a potential path for the Clippers to move Eric Bledsoe to Toronto for Goran Dragic, for example, which would allow Los Angeles to hold Dragic's bird rights entering this summer. That's the type of transaction that a gap-year mentality can afford a front office.



From Jake Fischer's article about the Clippers being sellers today : https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952391-paul-george-injury-could-dictate-la-clippers-direction-at-trade-deadline

I think that moving Dragic for Bledsoe and a 2nd would give us enough tax room to sign Wilson or whoever. I'd like it to be this year's 2nd but I'm not sure how the value works out when the Clippers would be adding to this year's tax bill but removing Bled's approx. 4 million from next year.


In theory its not bad;
We save over 1m going from Dragic to Bledsoe and he may actually opt to play this season which lets you potentially retain Wilson if you move someone else in this transaction.

The issue is you are essentially paying 4m for a second rounder as you pretty well must walk away from Bledsoe next season to avoid the tax if the plan is to sign the FRP and the MLE
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