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Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1121 » by StMikes31 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:15 am

JamesNaismith wrote:We're drafting Waiters....the GSW smokescreen is done with news of Roy; they already have Klay but maybe they wanted a deal out of us or Philly (more likely). I know BC probably loves Lamb but Case n Ed are selling him on Waiters...if DW is there he will be a Raptor (or our tradebait...smh).


JN, we've been on the same page for a week now on Waiters. Couldn't agree more. This is definitely a Casey/Stef pick
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1122 » by Marlo Stanfield » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:17 am

BC while the big boys make the decisions

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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1123 » by JPHolling » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:19 am

starting to warm up to lamb, simply because I know theres a big chances im disappointed come draft day. ( waiters.... or lillard )
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1124 » by JamesNaismith » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:24 am

StMikes31 wrote:
JamesNaismith wrote:We're drafting Waiters....the GSW smokescreen is done with news of Roy; they already have Klay but maybe they wanted a deal out of us or Philly (more likely). I know BC probably loves Lamb but Case n Ed are selling him on Waiters...if DW is there he will be a Raptor (or our tradebait...smh).


JN, we've been on the same page for a week now on Waiters. Couldn't agree more. This is definitely a Casey/Stef pick


It's not even that I'm high on him; as you see in my sig.

It's just really the overall vibe I get from our organization...we were the ONLY ones that worked him out, he's the only prospect all 3 of BC, Ed and Casey praised and his stock is booming the most of anyone in our pick range right now.

It will actually shock me if anyone but Waiters is picked (outside of someone falling).
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1125 » by ash_k » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:45 am

No way we draft Waiters over Lamb, no way!!!
The hype is to fool Portland and G-State

This is our future right there!

PG ??
SG Lamb
SF ??
PF ??
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1126 » by StMikes31 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:17 am

ash_k wrote:No way we draft Waiters over Lamb, no way!!!
The hype is to fool Portland and G-State

This is our future right there!

PG ??
SG Lamb
SF ??
PF ??
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Sorry to break it to you but there is no need to smoke screen Lamb at 8. He will be there no matter what. It won't be him though. All eyes point to us drafting someone who falls or Waiters.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1127 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:20 am

I bet our plan is to trade the pick in one form or another
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1128 » by ash_k » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:25 am

StMikes31 wrote:
ash_k wrote:No way we draft Waiters over Lamb, no way!!!
The hype is to fool Portland and G-State

This is our future right there!

PG ??
SG Lamb
SF ??
PF ??
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Sorry to break it to you but there is no need to smoke screen Lamb at 8. He will be there no matter what. It won't be him though. All eyes point to us drafting someone who falls or Waiters.


Don't be so sure! Everyone knows about Lamb's talent..Rudy Gay was picked 8th .. Coach Cahloun says he will be a 18ppg scorer in 2 years in the NBA and he has seen his fair share of wings over there (Hamilton, Ray, you know!)
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1129 » by IMAN5 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:10 pm

I just don't see a duo of Lamb and Derozan being marketable to get people excited or get us televised NBA time...
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1130 » by fredericklove » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:43 pm

IMAN5 wrote:I just don't see a duo of Lamb and Derozan being marketable to get people excited or get us televised NBA time...


So that's why we need to draft River? Even when Lamb has better skillset?
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1131 » by DaFranchise101 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:11 pm

IMAN5 wrote:I just don't see a duo of Lamb and Derozan being marketable to get people excited or get us televised NBA time...


that's what Nash is for. 8-)
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1132 » by HolyMage110 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:16 pm

austin rivers seems to be ahead of of lamb in the draft board. if lamb has the same motor and competivness as rivers, i dont see why he wont be a top pick. oh well.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1133 » by BillyGM » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:59 pm

If we want to get Lamb we need to trade down, cause Lamb is not BPA for TOR at 8
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1134 » by niQ » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:24 pm

BillyGM wrote:If we want to get Lamb we need to trade down, cause Lamb is not BPA for TOR at 8


In theory, we could actually play with that Iggy + 15th rumour now... Just saying lol
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1135 » by ash_k » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:41 pm

BillyGM wrote:If we want to get Lamb we need to trade down, cause Lamb is not BPA for TOR at 8


Gosh, so who can potentially be better at that pick? Rivers? Waiters? Lillard

Who can be better that UCONN/Big EAST (Mini)McGrady like wing ? Who at that 8th Spot.

Don't be surprised if he goes to Portland at 6!
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1136 » by niQ » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:20 pm

ash_k wrote:
BillyGM wrote:If we want to get Lamb we need to trade down, cause Lamb is not BPA for TOR at 8


Gosh, so who can potentially be better at that pick? Rivers? Waiters? Lillard

Who can be better that UCONN/Big EAST (Mini)McGrady like wing ? Who at that 8th Spot.

Don't be surprised if he goes to Portland at 6!


No offense, but Waiters and Lillard are potentially better than Lamb
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/0 ... ef:nbahpt1
at least based on the recent consensus.

And in regards to Portland at 6, only 2 names have been circling draft mocks and they are Lillard and Drummond. Only one mock had another name (Rivers) but that's just Hoopsworld.

Yes Lamb does have a lot of potential, and don't get me wrong, I have been excited about the idea of drafting Lamb... but his injuries (ankle and shoulder which has been flagged as will be recurrent throughout career) + Lamb's agent (preventing him from working out at the combine) + just Lamb's overall lackadaisical interviews just give off a bad vibe. And (at least right now) it's shown to hurt his draft stock based on the consensus. And let's not forget, even before the draft lottery, Chad Ford and DX had Lamb in the 11-13 draft slot as BPA. nbadraft.net had him in the 7-8th spot, but even now, nbadraft.net has him at 14 based on the recent news. Yes things can and will change in the next 2 days.. but you speak as if Waiters and Lillard are inferior prospects.

One thing the Raptors have wanted is someone who will attack the basket.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/By- ... Crop-3986/
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/By- ... Crop-3990/
Based on FTA adjusted per 40 mins, Jeremy Lamb actually has the lowest score based on the 3. yes the Raptors also need 3 point shooting, but those are skills both Lillard and Waiters provide as well.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1137 » by fredericklove » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:46 pm

Nba.com consensus alone doesnt validate ur claim. Look at all other scouts site too. Lillard is higher because of pg need. Raptors need more shooter than attacker like Casey and BC have emphasized. With all the Nash fuzz and Portland being high on lillard. Lillard might not be available or we going pg route from draft. Our best choice should be someone who can shoot and create for himself
I don't see lillard or waiter having more potential than lamb because scouts have been saying lamb has top 5 potential all season all draft long. He might not attack the lane like those two can but he can flat out score at his position with vast repertoire skill set. If all 3 pans out then I won't be surprised if lamb ends up being better scorer than those two in the nba. Waiter has attacking ability but undersized without remarkable length as compensation and strength is nice but is it good enough at next level. Shooting is OK but I don't see him deadly shooter and his offensive skill set isn't on par with lamb.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1138 » by ash_k » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:51 pm

niQ wrote:No offense, but Waiters and Lillard are potentially better than Lamb
http://www.nba.com/2012/news/features/0 ... ef:nbahpt1
at least based on the recent consensus.

And in regards to Portland at 6, only 2 names have been circling draft mocks and they are Lillard and Drummond. Only one mock had another name (Rivers) but that's just Hoopsworld......

Yes Lamb does have a lot of potential, and don't get me wrong, I have been excited about the idea of drafting Lamb... but his injuries (ankle and shoulder which has been flagged as will be recurrent throughout career) + Lamb's agent (preventing him from working out at the combine) + just Lamb's overall lackadaisical interviews just give off a bad vibe. And (at least right now) it's shown to hurt his draft stock based on the consensus. And let's not forget, even before the draft lottery, Chad Ford and DX had Lamb in the 11-13 draft slot as BPA. nbadraft.net had him in the 7-8th spot, but even now, nbadraft.net has him at 14 based on the recent news. Yes things can and will change in the next 2 days.. but you speak as if Waiters and Lillard are inferior prospects.

One thing the Raptors have wanted is someone who will attack the basket.
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/By- ... Crop-3986/
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/By- ... Crop-3990/
Based on FTA adjusted per 40 mins, Jeremy Lamb actually has the lowest score based on the 3. yes the Raptors also need 3 point shooting, but those are skills both Lillard and Waiters provide as well.


Waiters is a bench player, he doesn't have the measurements and style-of-play(a power player/runner without elite leaping ability and shooting) to be a starter in the NBA. (at least if he was a shooter, but he isn't)

Lillard has great measurements at the PG position but has not faced any big school/competition in 2/3 years; this would be a huge risk (I m confident to say Lamb would have averaged 25ppg in the Big Sky, if not 30)

As a Freshman particularly in the tournament, Lamb was just a stand-out, a star not afraid of the moment (it tells a lot)

Let's not forget he was on the FIBA 2011-Worlds under-19 ALL-TOURNAMENT TEAM with our "great Hope" Jonas.

When you have close-to-the-rim BIGS like Drummond and Oriakhi(that just cannot stretch the floor), it makes it difficult for anyone to attack the rim so those stats about Lamb are deceptive.

At 8, it would be a steal!

Talking about Mock Drafts, Chad Ford had Morrison ahead of Rudy Gay in his board; I certainly didn't, did you?
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1139 » by Undefeated » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:03 pm

fredericklove wrote:He might not attack the lane like those two can but he can flat out score at his position with vast repertoire skill set. If all 3 pans out then I won't be surprised if lamb ends up being better scorer than those two in the nba. Waiter has attacking ability but undersized without remarkable length as compensation and strength is nice but is it good enough at next level.


Here's the thing, if Lamb is finishing his baskets within 5-feet of the rim with a variety of floaters, runners and hooks does it really matter for him to get all the way to the rim? It would be nice for him to increase his chances of getting the and-1 if he was closer to the rim, but 2 points is 2 points that close to the rim.
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Re: Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb 

Post#1140 » by Marlo Stanfield » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:05 pm

Sh*t I want both Lamb and Waiters

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