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2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1121 » by God Squad » Mon May 19, 2025 1:40 pm

When do workouts begin? Probably my favourite part, but I doubt we'll get many leaks.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1122 » by S ID » Mon May 19, 2025 1:40 pm

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Is there?


It’s funny how it just so happens to be right before our pick when the drop off begins.

From what I’ve read, it’s the first I’ve heard about there being a drop off after 8. Not a great draft for elite talent but quite a few good prospects.


Just my opinon.

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecome
Fears
Johnson
Maluach
Knueppel

Are the top 8 guys then there is a drop off at #9.

IMO this "drop off" stuff doesn't actually exist. There was also a drop off after the top 8 with Marquesse Chris in 2016 while Jakob went 9th to us and Sabonis a few picks later. In 2021 it was Cade, Green, Mobley, Suggs and then a canyon between everyone else yet we picked Barnes and there was Giddey, Kuminga, and Wagner a few picks later. You just have to find the players, period.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1123 » by Clutch0z24 » Mon May 19, 2025 1:54 pm

S ID wrote:
dkb964 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
It’s funny how it just so happens to be right before our pick when the drop off begins.

From what I’ve read, it’s the first I’ve heard about there being a drop off after 8. Not a great draft for elite talent but quite a few good prospects.


Just my opinon.

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecome
Fears
Johnson
Maluach
Knueppel

Are the top 8 guys then there is a drop off at #9.

IMO this "drop off" stuff doesn't actually exist. There was also a drop off after the top 8 with Marquesse Chris in 2016 while Jakob went 9th to us and Sabonis a few picks later. In 2021 it was Cade, Green, Mobley, Suggs and then a canyon between everyone else yet we picked Barnes and there was Giddey, Kuminga, and Wagner a few picks later. You just have to find the players, period.


Yep not to mention poster left out Queen/Jak who should also be on this list.....And then you have your sleeper picks with Bryant/Traore/Noa/Rasheer who are all usually mocked late lotto but could rise....

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Johnson
Fears
Knueppel
Queen
Maluach
Jak
------
CMB
Rasheer
Noa
Traore
Bryant
Demin
Jase

Thats a pretty interesting list of players ^ you have a clear top 10 and then a solid crop of some Mystery Box/Reachers who all could end up being better than expected....Masai has his work to do thats for sure but we will get a rotation player and a solid addition to the team with some all star upside im sure...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1124 » by Yallbecrazy » Mon May 19, 2025 2:20 pm

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-strength-agility

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1125 » by dkb964 » Mon May 19, 2025 2:24 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
S ID wrote:
dkb964 wrote:
Just my opinon.

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecome
Fears
Johnson
Maluach
Knueppel

Are the top 8 guys then there is a drop off at #9.

IMO this "drop off" stuff doesn't actually exist. There was also a drop off after the top 8 with Marquesse Chris in 2016 while Jakob went 9th to us and Sabonis a few picks later. In 2021 it was Cade, Green, Mobley, Suggs and then a canyon between everyone else yet we picked Barnes and there was Giddey, Kuminga, and Wagner a few picks later. You just have to find the players, period.


Yep not to mention poster left out Queen/Jak who should also be on this list.....And then you have your sleeper picks with Bryant/Traore/Noa/Rasheer who are all usually mocked late lotto but could rise....

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Johnson
Fears
Knueppel
Queen
Maluach
Jak
------
CMB
Rasheer
Noa
Traore
Bryant
Demin
Jase

Thats a pretty interesting list of players ^ you have a clear top 10 and then a solid crop of some Mystery Box/Reachers who all could end up being better than expected....Masai has his work to do thats for sure but we will get a rotation player and a solid addition to the team with some all star upside im sure...


I am not a fan of Queen. He gives me Jahlil Okafor/Jared Sullinger vibes.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1126 » by Buff » Mon May 19, 2025 2:27 pm

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There are only a few players that added new skills in the pros? Thats a crazy statement lol.


Big man are what they are at 18, it is known,


That is not true, they show flashes of things.
You may want to take a look at bigs, they at least showed some flashes on what they can do before they drafted.


Yanking your chain a little bit... I understand that passing is not one of his strengths but I disagree that is a must to be a championship team C. I think great rim protection, switchability and FT does it. Something missing there that actually worries me with KM is rebounding. You must gobble all of them rebounds to be championship caliber.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1127 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon May 19, 2025 2:27 pm

Rasheer Fleming hands
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1128 » by Spates » Mon May 19, 2025 2:40 pm

I think I'm coming around on Cedric Coward.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1129 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 19, 2025 2:40 pm

YKN is a monster

9’3” standing reach with a 37” no step vertical is nasty work
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1130 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon May 19, 2025 2:42 pm

Also, does Ryan Nembhard having the 7th longest hands throw anyone off? None of his other measurements stand out except that.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1131 » by Clutch0z24 » Mon May 19, 2025 2:44 pm

dkb964 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
S ID wrote:IMO this "drop off" stuff doesn't actually exist. There was also a drop off after the top 8 with Marquesse Chris in 2016 while Jakob went 9th to us and Sabonis a few picks later. In 2021 it was Cade, Green, Mobley, Suggs and then a canyon between everyone else yet we picked Barnes and there was Giddey, Kuminga, and Wagner a few picks later. You just have to find the players, period.


Yep not to mention poster left out Queen/Jak who should also be on this list.....And then you have your sleeper picks with Bryant/Traore/Noa/Rasheer who are all usually mocked late lotto but could rise....

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Johnson
Fears
Knueppel
Queen
Maluach
Jak
------
CMB
Rasheer
Noa
Traore
Bryant
Demin
Jase

Thats a pretty interesting list of players ^ you have a clear top 10 and then a solid crop of some Mystery Box/Reachers who all could end up being better than expected....Masai has his work to do thats for sure but we will get a rotation player and a solid addition to the team with some all star upside im sure...


I am not a fan of Queen. He gives me Jahlil Okafor/Jared Sullinger vibes.


Totally diff games....Lazy comp....But i get why people say that...But Sullinger & Jahill were both not close to the play making/passers/Ball handling/Guard like skills or the face up game Queen has....Both were back to the basket players and post up guys...While Sullinger has a mid range shot he was no where near the guard like skills or basketball IQ Queen has....

Queens IQ/Passing ability/Face up/Handles/Footwork all beat Jahlil/Sully by a pretty wide margin....Can also compare Queen to Sengun/Jokic/Sabonis if you wanna give him a comp that actually fits more his game and play style than Sully/Okafor (Which points him in a positive light than a negative) But if you are comparing body look or w/e....Thats totally diff than comparing basketball skills....As Body look/shape has nothing to do with on court production...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1132 » by Indeed » Mon May 19, 2025 2:53 pm

Big C options at 49th:
Rocco Zikarsky (if he declares) - best standing reach
Ryan Kalkbrenner - pretty much measure similar to Maluach, except standing reach being 2 inches short
Hansen Yang - best hand length by C
Yanic Konan Niederhauser - best leaping and running by C
Vladislav Goldin - best hand width by C
Maxime Raynaud - best lane agility by C

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?dir=D&sort=STANDING_REACH
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1133 » by Indeed » Mon May 19, 2025 2:56 pm

Buff wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Buff wrote:
Big man are what they are at 18, it is known,


That is not true, they show flashes of things.
You may want to take a look at bigs, they at least showed some flashes on what they can do before they drafted.


Yanking your chain a little bit... I understand that passing is not one of his strengths but I disagree that is a must to be a championship team C. I think great rim protection, switchability and FT does it. Something missing there that actually worries me with KM is rebounding. You must gobble all of them rebounds to be championship caliber.


I disagree that you build around your role player instead of your star player in a championship run.
Maluach is a role player, and if there is a star player, you draft them first.

Maluach combine measurement isn't good, bottom 5 in other categories outside of standing reach and wingspan (well, middle in hands).
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1134 » by Indeed » Mon May 19, 2025 3:06 pm

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dkb964 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
It’s funny how it just so happens to be right before our pick when the drop off begins.

From what I’ve read, it’s the first I’ve heard about there being a drop off after 8. Not a great draft for elite talent but quite a few good prospects.


Just my opinon.

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecome
Fears
Johnson
Maluach
Knueppel

Are the top 8 guys then there is a drop off at #9.

IMO this "drop off" stuff doesn't actually exist. There was also a drop off after the top 8 with Marquesse Chris in 2016 while Jakob went 9th to us and Sabonis a few picks later. In 2021 it was Cade, Green, Mobley, Suggs and then a canyon between everyone else yet we picked Barnes and there was Giddey, Kuminga, and Wagner a few picks later. You just have to find the players, period.


That says a lot on teams taking potential over skill, which ended up failing.

By the way, Poeltl was part of the top list, and the drop off was after him. But you may include Siakam.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1135 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon May 19, 2025 3:11 pm

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1136 » by Jay_Hawk » Mon May 19, 2025 3:12 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
Jay_Hawk wrote:I’ve heard that Masai went to Maryland to scout Queen a few times, but can’t for the life of me find a source (google sucks). Does anyone here know if that’s true?


Masai Went to about 5 Maryland games i think (Could be wrong because sources are so all over the place)

But the games Masai did go too Queen had big games...He was in attendence for Rutgers Vs Maryland where Queen had 29,15 Reb, 5 Asts, 1 Blk, 1 Stl, Michigan Game where he had 31 Pts...Idk the exact games he was at but reported 3-5 games....So for people on this board that hate Queen....There is obvious interest from Masai/Darko there....No way Masai goes personally to that many games if he does not like a player...

Fits Darkos system to a T as well....If he falls this board will have a meltdown because he is prolly the pick.



Thanks. And I agree with Queen fitting the Raps to a T. I’m hoping he somehow drops to 9 and we can take him and run.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1137 » by Tor_Raps » Mon May 19, 2025 3:28 pm

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Sixers landing Lauri for PG + 3rd pick makes them extremely dangerous. He's a perfect fit for Philly since they have no real PF.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1138 » by Buff » Mon May 19, 2025 3:36 pm

Indeed wrote:
Buff wrote:
Indeed wrote:
That is not true, they show flashes of things.
You may want to take a look at bigs, they at least showed some flashes on what they can do before they drafted.


Yanking your chain a little bit... I understand that passing is not one of his strengths but I disagree that is a must to be a championship team C. I think great rim protection, switchability and FT does it. Something missing there that actually worries me with KM is rebounding. You must gobble all of them rebounds to be championship caliber.


I disagree that you build around your role player instead of your star player in a championship run.
Maluach is a role player, and if there is a star player, you draft them first.

Maluach combine measurement isn't good, bottom 5 in other categories outside of standing reach and wingspan (well, middle in hands).


Never say you "build", I said you draft and develop so they are ready when the time comes. Now, of course if there is someone who projects a clear #1 you take it and run, but realistically... is there going to be someone like that at 9? not really.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1139 » by God Squad » Mon May 19, 2025 3:38 pm

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Sixers landing Lauri for PG + 3rd pick makes them extremely dangerous. He's a perfect fit for Philly since they have no real PF.

*Yawn*. People never learn with the Sixers.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 7 

Post#1140 » by Los_29 » Mon May 19, 2025 3:44 pm

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Sixers landing Lauri for PG + 3rd pick makes them extremely dangerous. He's a perfect fit for Philly since they have no real PF.


Lauri isn’t a needle mover especially with Embiid’s health in question. I think the Sixers are in really bad shape.

I just can’t imagine Morey being dumb enough to trade this pick. If he has to attach the 3rd overall pick just to get rid of George’s contract then he should be fired on the spot. lol.

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