OT: COVID-19 Ontario 2nd Wave Thread

[NBA Sheady]

I understand that, the probem with it is that Brampton is not the only place in the GTA that has service workers.

Nobody is disputing that. The point is they have a higher percentage of those workers and for that reason have more cases.

Also, as I stated, Peel is more than just Brampton.

Understood. This logic can be applied to Peel in general. They have a higher percentage of front line workers than downtown (for example).

Or that there are no white collar workers like yourself in Brampton which I also strongly disagree.

This was neither stated or implied.

[hsb]

All I know is putting a hospital in Brampton is a massive issue in all of Ontario. A city that big should not have one hospital, let alone one that was functioning at over 100% capacity prior to a global pandemic.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Ford govement baby. I feel like he's kept in the dark for way too long, no adequate changes are coming, and we're just dealing with this huge wave. Economy vs lives, and I guess economy wins.

[NinjaBro]

https://www.ottawamatters.com/national-news/ticketmaster-plans-to-check-for-covid-19-vaccine-status-2871746

The ticket distributor is currently exploring and planning to develop the system that will sync digital tickets with information from third party healthcare providers.

Covid passports are coming. Papers!

We're the new China. Health rating on your phone. Coming soon.

[mtcan]

https://www.ottawamatters.com/national-news/ticketmaster-plans-to-check-for-covid-19-vaccine-status-2871746

The ticket distributor is currently exploring and planning to develop the system that will sync digital tickets with information from third party healthcare providers.

Covid passports are coming. Papers!

We're the new China. Health rating on your phone. Coming soon.

People can't be trusted to make the right decisions. People are still having super spreader events. How are people still having 100+ people sized, multi-day weddings? This is why we can't have nice things. If this is what it takes for people to get the damn point...so be it. I know I'm following the rules...wtf is wrong with everyone else?

[D.Brasco]

All I know is putting a hospital in Brampton is a massive issue in all of Ontario. A city that big should not have one hospital, let alone one that was functioning at over 100% capacity prior to a global pandemic.

I had to read your post twice it seemed like you were upset Brampton was given any hospitals.

[Fairview4Life]

Stop letting groups of people gather together in poorly ventilated areas and make everyone wear a mask when out in public for the next 4-5 months until the vaccine is distributed (or cases are reduced dramatically). Directly transfer unemployed people and closed businesses money so they can rebound when they are allowed to go back to work/reopen. This isn't rocket science.

[beanbag]

Stop letting groups of people gather together in poorly ventilated areas and make everyone wear a mask when out in public for the next 4-5 months until the vaccine is distributed (or cases are reduced dramatically). Directly transfer unemployed people and closed businesses money so they can rebound when they are allowed to go back to work/reopen. This isn't rocket science.

The Federal government just reduced the max amount and percentage of CEWS so......yeah.

[Lord_Zedd]

Ford govement baby. I feel like he's kept in the dark for way too long, no adequate changes are coming, and we're just dealing with this huge wave. Economy vs lives, and I guess economy wins.

Like watching a yoyo on the escalator.

Dumbass Ford is focused on the yoyo and not the escalator.

[markR]

Lockdowns will do nothing to stop the social gatherings week after week of friends and friends of friends meeting up week after week after week. We all see it. Look at Halloween. Google some socials. Every fri and sat night for months. People dont care.

These people are not going to follow rules any more. Happened in the EU and US and even lockdowns have not curbed numbers.

Blame schools but numbers were all ready on a bad trend in early august.

We had 8 months of stern warnings but no real enforcement. I see more parking tickets handed out downtown than I'm sure for people breaking covid rules.

At this point, I dont care either. But then again, I live a stage 2 life, so I'd not really miss much locked down.

Looks like people in toronto will kybosh any games here for another year. At least I'll save my money on tickets.

[markR]

Stop letting groups of people gather together in poorly ventilated areas and make everyone wear a mask when out in public for the next 4-5 months until the vaccine is distributed (or cases are reduced dramatically). Directly transfer unemployed people and closed businesses money so they can rebound when they are allowed to go back to work/reopen. This isn't rocket science.

If people were in this together, that would work. But let's stop with all the lies. People have not been in it together ever. People have been finding exceptions for their selfish behaviors from the start. Lack of enforcement let them do it. And now people are fed up and even our government failed to keep it out of LTC facilities. so they screwed up again. At this point, not much you can do. People will continue to socialize privately. And its groups of 8 to 10 here, 8 to 10 there, and week after week new groups. Not huge but adds up. Then add weddings and private venue parties. Good luck at this point getting people to be in it together.

[BDDray420]

Stop letting groups of people gather together in poorly ventilated areas and make everyone wear a mask when out in public for the next 4-5 months until the vaccine is distributed (or cases are reduced dramatically). Directly transfer unemployed people and closed businesses money so they can rebound when they are allowed to go back to work/reopen. This isn't rocket science.

If people were in this together, that would work. But let's stop with all the lies. People have not been in it together ever. People have been finding exceptions for their selfish behaviors from the start. Lack of enforcement let them do it. And now people are fed up and even our government failed to keep it out of LTC facilities. so they screwed up again. At this point, not much you can do. People will continue to socialize privately. And its groups of 8 to 10 here, 8 to 10 there, and week after week new groups. Not huge but adds up. Then add weddings and private venue parties. Good luck at this point getting people to be in it together.

My ex works at a LTC and went to a halloween party (saw her ig stories) and then a week after they got an outbreak in the building. What can government do about this? The staff just do whatever the **** they want in their own time.

[dunk_a_roo]

non maskers or any social gatherings = 30 day OHIP suspension
have fun paying medical bills, that would get every1's attention

[execoftheyear]

Stop letting groups of people gather together in poorly ventilated areas and make everyone wear a mask when out in public for the next 4-5 months until the vaccine is distributed (or cases are reduced dramatically). Directly transfer unemployed people and closed businesses money so they can rebound when they are allowed to go back to work/reopen. This isn't rocket science.

If people were in this together, that would work. But let's stop with all the lies. People have not been in it together ever. People have been finding exceptions for their selfish behaviors from the start. Lack of enforcement let them do it. And now people are fed up and even our government failed to keep it out of LTC facilities. so they screwed up again. At this point, not much you can do. People will continue to socialize privately. And its groups of 8 to 10 here, 8 to 10 there, and week after week new groups. Not huge but adds up. Then add weddings and private venue parties. Good luck at this point getting people to be in it together.

My ex works at a LTC and went to a halloween party (saw her ig stories) and then a week after they got an outbreak in the building. What can government do about this? The staff just do whatever the **** they want in their own time.

exactly, people keep saying isolate the elderly without even making the connection that they still need to be looked after by guess what...younger people who have lives outside of working at LTC homes. It irks me when people introduce "simple solutions" like isolate the elderly and let the young/less vulnerable carry on with their lives without making the connection. It's not that simple.

[Fairview4Life]

Stop letting groups of people gather together in poorly ventilated areas and make everyone wear a mask when out in public for the next 4-5 months until the vaccine is distributed (or cases are reduced dramatically). Directly transfer unemployed people and closed businesses money so they can rebound when they are allowed to go back to work/reopen. This isn't rocket science.

If people were in this together, that would work. But let's stop with all the lies. People have not been in it together ever. People have been finding exceptions for their selfish behaviors from the start. Lack of enforcement let them do it. And now people are fed up and even our government failed to keep it out of LTC facilities. so they screwed up again. At this point, not much you can do. People will continue to socialize privately. And its groups of 8 to 10 here, 8 to 10 there, and week after week new groups. Not huge but adds up. Then add weddings and private venue parties. Good luck at this point getting people to be in it together.

My ex works at a LTC and went to a halloween party (saw her ig stories) and then a week after they got an outbreak in the building. What can government do about this? The staff just do whatever the **** they want in their own time.

I mean, the facility should fire her for endangering the lives of all of the residents, as a first step.

[BDDray420]

If people were in this together, that would work. But let's stop with all the lies. People have not been in it together ever. People have been finding exceptions for their selfish behaviors from the start. Lack of enforcement let them do it. And now people are fed up and even our government failed to keep it out of LTC facilities. so they screwed up again. At this point, not much you can do. People will continue to socialize privately. And its groups of 8 to 10 here, 8 to 10 there, and week after week new groups. Not huge but adds up. Then add weddings and private venue parties. Good luck at this point getting people to be in it together.

My ex works at a LTC and went to a halloween party (saw her ig stories) and then a week after they got an outbreak in the building. What can government do about this? The staff just do whatever the **** they want in their own time.

I mean, the facility should fire her for endangering the lives of all of the residents, as a first step.

How would they even know? Anyone can say bs like i might have got it from the grocery store. You can't ask people to pause their lives because they work in a LTC, they'll just quit.

[Fairview4Life]

My ex works at a LTC and went to a halloween party (saw her ig stories) and then a week after they got an outbreak in the building. What can government do about this? The staff just do whatever the **** they want in their own time.

I mean, the facility should fire her for endangering the lives of all of the residents, as a first step.

How would they even know? Anyone can say bs like i might have got it from the grocery store. You can't ask people to pause their lives because they work in a LTC, they'll just quit.

You can tell people that if they want to work for you they need to not go to large gatherings in the middle of a pandemic when they are responsible for looking after a vulnerable population. If she isn't responsible enough for that then she can absolutely quit, and it sounds like she should have. Also seems like they could tell by looking at her instagram. Even if that wasn't the vector for how covid got into her facility it is still wildly irresponsible and she shouldn't be working there.

[RaptorsNorth]

The numbers between Toronto and Brampton (specifically) is going to say up. All these Toronto mans are always in Brampton because of the reputation of young females in Brampton.. I know people from this city that never go clubbing in this city but go clubbing in Brampton. If you know then you know if you don’t know then you’re not in the loop.

[BDDray420]

I mean, the facility should fire her for endangering the lives of all of the residents, as a first step.

How would they even know? Anyone can say bs like i might have got it from the grocery store. You can't ask people to pause their lives because they work in a LTC, they'll just quit.

You can tell people that if they want to work for you they need to not go to large gatherings in the middle of a pandemic when they are responsible for looking after a vulnerable population. If she isn't responsible enough for that then she can absolutely quit, and it sounds like she should have. Also seems like they could tell by looking at her instagram. Even if that wasn't the vector for how covid got into her facility it is still wildly irresponsible and she shouldn't be working there.

So if you're telling me if you're working at LTC, you basically have to stop having a life because of the pandemic. That's too much, this pandemic affects everyone's mental health as well. Nobody will sign up for that unless they raise the wages by A LOT but even then their mental health will suffer.

[Fairview4Life]

How would they even know? Anyone can say bs like i might have got it from the grocery store. You can't ask people to pause their lives because they work in a LTC, they'll just quit.

You can tell people that if they want to work for you they need to not go to large gatherings in the middle of a pandemic when they are responsible for looking after a vulnerable population. If she isn't responsible enough for that then she can absolutely quit, and it sounds like she should have. Also seems like they could tell by looking at her instagram. Even if that wasn't the vector for how covid got into her facility it is still wildly irresponsible and she shouldn't be working there.

So if you're telling me if you're working at LTC, you basically have to stop having a life because of the pandemic. That's too much, this pandemic affects everyone's mental health as well. Nobody will sign up for that unless they raise the wages by A LOT but even then their mental health will suffer.

YES, if you are working at an LTC you can't go to a **** crowded Halloween party. How in the hell is that "too much"? What the ****? There are vaccines coming in like 5 months! If you are working at an LTC you will probably be jabbed even sooner than that! Suck it the **** up and stop endangering the most vulnerable people in society or quit your damn job.