Official Scottie All Star Barnes Thread 8

[NinjaBro]

9 asts a game is pretty wild. All I see are bricks by his teammates

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

9 asts a game is pretty wild. All I see are bricks by his teammates

Him passing on a three footer, and passing to Mogbo is burnt in.

[sidsid]

They're calling him the 3 for 7 3pt machine. Punching in for the afternoon shift. Never late, always on time. Mr. Consistency

[ForeverTFC]

We’re a high assist team because of the way we run our offense. 5th in the NBA in assist % and we were up there while Scottie was injured. RJ is averaging a career high in assists as well. It comes with the offense. That’s not to say Scottie isn’t great at it. But the offense definitely inflates his assist numbers, though they’d be high without it.

However, we are 2nd to last in isolation frequency, dead last in isolation PPP, 2nd to last in FT frequency off ISOs and dead last in score frequency. You cannot win in this league without isolation basketball. If we’ve all accepted that this season is about development, how about giving our franchise guy some reps here? I don’t expect Scottie to become a bonafide scoring machine, but I do expect that at some point he’s able to create some shots for himself. And not of the 3point pull up variety.

[Thaddy]

We’re a high assist team because of the way we run our offense. 5th in the NBA in assist % and we were up there while Scottie was injured. RJ is averaging a career high in assists as well. It comes with the offense. That’s not to say Scottie isn’t great at it. But the offense definitely inflates his assist numbers, though they’d be high without it.

However, we are 2nd to last in isolation frequency, dead last in isolation PPP, 2nd to last in FT frequency off ISOs and dead last in score frequency. You cannot win in this league without isolation basketball. If we’ve all accepted that this season is about development, how about giving our franchise guy some reps here? I don’t expect Scottie to become a bonafide scoring machine, but I do expect that at some point he’s able to create some shots for himself. And not of the 3point pull up variety.

Barnes does need more reps here and he needs it with Poeltl clogging the lane. It's an additional benefit we can play off of a weakness. If Barnes can learn how to score with little space it will make him much better when he's paired with a stretch C like Olynyk.

We should be looking for Barnes, Dick, and Quickely to generate most of our offense. Barrett doesn't fit into the equation here and he's not a good fit next to Barnes. Ideally, we should have a Mogbo sized player that can also create in isolation. We don't have that player yet but if that player can also play POA defense it would put Barnes in a better position as a helpside defender.

The best match in the draft would probably be Bailey. He's 6'10+ and he can fill up the scoresheet, a player like Barnes should be able to feed him and get a very high assist total.

[Kingsway_fan]

Hrs been averaging close to a triple double since he came back ...

[ash_k]

by now it has been demonstrated that Yak's not clogging anything for anyone..Yak makes both RJ and Scottie better in Darko's offense..RJ averages 22|6|5|50|40% from 3 with both Yak and Scottie.
Scottie has averaged 22|9|9 since his return with those 2.

RJ, Scottie, Yak all fit perfectly then you have Gradey and (almost elusive)IQ as your 3pt bombers...just perfect fit. Now if we could all see them together at least once before the end of the 2024, it would be great

[anotherhomer]

by now it has been demonstrated that Yak's not clogging anything for anyone..Yak makes both RJ and Scottie better in Darko's offense..RJ averages 22|6|5|50|40% from 3 with both Yak and Scottie.
Scottie has averaged 22|9|9 since his return with those 2.

RJ, Scottie, Yak all fit perfectly then you have Gradey and (almost elusive)IQ as your 3pt bombers...just perfect fit. Now if we could all see them together at least once before the end of the 2024, it would be great

that be a nice data point to see how that 5 work together

[Shwaguy]

We’re a high assist team because of the way we run our offense. 5th in the NBA in assist % and we were up there while Scottie was injured. RJ is averaging a career high in assists as well. It comes with the offense. That’s not to say Scottie isn’t great at it. But the offense definitely inflates his assist numbers, though they’d be high without it.

However, we are 2nd to last in isolation frequency, dead last in isolation PPP, 2nd to last in FT frequency off ISOs and dead last in score frequency. You cannot win in this league without isolation basketball. If we’ve all accepted that this season is about development, how about giving our franchise guy some reps here? I don’t expect Scottie to become a bonafide scoring machine, but I do expect that at some point he’s able to create some shots for himself. And not of the 3point pull up variety.

Barnes does need more reps here and he needs it with Poeltl clogging the lane. It's an additional benefit we can play off of a weakness. If Barnes can learn how to score with little space it will make him much better when he's paired with a stretch C like Olynyk.

We should be looking for Barnes, Dick, and Quickely to generate most of our offense. Barrett doesn't fit into the equation here and he's not a good fit next to Barnes. Ideally, we should have a Mogbo sized player that can also create in isolation. We don't have that player yet but if that player can also play POA defense it would put Barnes in a better position as a helpside defender.

The best match in the draft would probably be Bailey. He's 6'10+ and he can fill up the scoresheet, a player like Barnes should be able to feed him and get a very high assist total.

Strong disagreement on the point about requiring Isolation basketball to win. Isolation basketball is becoming less required in the league every season and recent NBA champions having been trending away from Isolation basketball to a significant degree of late. Bailey is not a great prospect either, projects to be like a MPJ, not a star scoring option. Gradey Dick has higher offensive upside than Bailey (Bailey does have really awesome defensive upside though) would be an asset but better prospects for us in this draft. At least 4 other guys I'd prefer to him in this draft.

[Shwaguy]

The assist numbers are such a great thing to see. Feels inevitable that Scottie will have some years averaging 10+ Assists honestly. His playmaking is how he will unlock being a truly great offensive piece to feature around.

[Shwaguy]

Scottie becoming a nightly triple-double threat. Firmly in his Magic era in this current role. Just a shame he doesn't have better scoring teammates to take full advantage of what he creates.

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AND he plays excellent defence

sky is the limit. still underrated, even by raps fans

Fanbase doesn't realize what they have in him. They think "Ace Bailey" will save the franchise yet consistently underappreciate Scottie who Bailey will almost certainly never be better than.

[manjusaka]

I think Scottie should study on how Doncic attacks to defenders to create offence. Similar to Scottie Donicic does not have the quickness to breakdown the defence but he can generate separation from the defenders.

[manjusaka]

We’re a high assist team because of the way we run our offense. 5th in the NBA in assist % and we were up there while Scottie was injured. RJ is averaging a career high in assists as well. It comes with the offense. That’s not to say Scottie isn’t great at it. But the offense definitely inflates his assist numbers, though they’d be high without it.

However, we are 2nd to last in isolation frequency, dead last in isolation PPP, 2nd to last in FT frequency off ISOs and dead last in score frequency. You cannot win in this league without isolation basketball. If we’ve all accepted that this season is about development, how about giving our franchise guy some reps here? I don’t expect Scottie to become a bonafide scoring machine, but I do expect that at some point he’s able to create some shots for himself. And not of the 3point pull up variety.

The reason for this is very obvious, we don’t have players who can attack in isolation situations.

[Basketball_Jones]

Barnes wanted no part of Lively on the perimeter and eventually just threw the ball away. An otherwise great performance but stuff like that really makes me question his ceiling imo.

[hype_2004]

9 asts a game is pretty wild. All I see are bricks by his teammates

Yup there's 3 or 4 passes per game where his teammates botch the handle, the layup or gets blocked, dude should be average 10+ aasists per game with more seasoned competent teammates. Guys like Mitchell, Boucher or Mogbo should not be in the lineup with Barnes, these bricklayers should sit whenever he's in the court.

[tdotrep2]

Barnes wanted no part of Lively on the perimeter and eventually just threw the ball away. An otherwise great performance but stuff like that really makes me question his ceiling imo.

lively is able to back off enough because scottie isn't a confident 3pt shooter. If scottie was say 3/4 at those points in the game lively would press up and scottie would have taken him off the dribble. His ceiling relies on how his shot making develops.

[djsunyc]

We’re a high assist team because of the way we run our offense. 5th in the NBA in assist % and we were up there while Scottie was injured. RJ is averaging a career high in assists as well. It comes with the offense. That’s not to say Scottie isn’t great at it. But the offense definitely inflates his assist numbers, though they’d be high without it.

However, we are 2nd to last in isolation frequency, dead last in isolation PPP, 2nd to last in FT frequency off ISOs and dead last in score frequency. You cannot win in this league without isolation basketball. If we’ve all accepted that this season is about development, how about giving our franchise guy some reps here? I don’t expect Scottie to become a bonafide scoring machine, but I do expect that at some point he’s able to create some shots for himself. And not of the 3point pull up variety.

this is interesting bc i remember with casey, the org philosophy was that iso's win in the post season so they emphasized it a lot in the regular season. it's why we went kyle/demar heavy in the playoffs while jonas was often ignored and it was tough to watch alot of the times.

i agree iso's are much needed as a part of the offense but not the majority of it. i think darko is catering to his roster. there is nobody on this team with a true iso-bag. if we had doncic or kyrie, this team would be coached differently. and i also think scottie isnt being held back from dipping into iso's either, it's just how he is wired partly bc he doesnt have a great iso- bag.

[hype_2004]

by now it has been demonstrated that Yak's not clogging anything for anyone..Yak makes both RJ and Scottie better in Darko's offense..RJ averages 22|6|5|50|40% from 3 with both Yak and Scottie.
Scottie has averaged 22|9|9 since his return with those 2.

RJ, Scottie, Yak all fit perfectly then you have Gradey and (almost elusive)IQ as your 3pt bombers...just perfect fit. Now if we could all see them together at least once before the end of the 2024, it would be great

Gradey, IQ, alongside RJ and Jak should be in the starting lineup going forward, Scottie needs shooters, dribble penetrators and interior defenders. I can't wait till we have Quick back sick of the horrible guard play from Mitchell and Shead who just blows assignments and can't make shots to save their lives

[Scase]

Scottie becoming a nightly triple-double threat. Firmly in his Magic era in this current role. Just a shame he doesn't have better scoring teammates to take full advantage of what he creates.

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He would easily be averaging a triple double if we had even just some more competent players on the roster.

Scottie becoming a nightly triple-double threat. Firmly in his Magic era in this current role. Just a shame he doesn't have better scoring teammates to take full advantage of what he creates.

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AND he plays excellent defence

sky is the limit. still underrated, even by raps fans

Fanbase doesn't realize what they have in him. They think "Ace Bailey" will save the franchise yet consistently underappreciate Scottie who Bailey will almost certainly never be better than.

What lol? Most people want Bailey to pair WITH Barnes, not replace him. Bailey is showing to be an efficient 3 level scoring threat, that would be an incredible player to play with Barnes. It's what the team is sorely missing, Lebron couldn't do it solo, what makes you think Scottie can?

[Brinbe]

can run scottie and bailey pick and pop all day. it would be a very nice combo pairing