2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[wegotthabeet]

so would you trade down now for any of these combos?

9 for 13 + 22
9 for 15 + 24
9 for 16 + 25

I could probably be convinced to do 9 for 13 + 22. not sure about the other 2 though.

[wayoftheroad]

I know I'll get hate for this but man would I love to get Jaylen Brown here. Make whatever roster moves you need to make after but he would be so good on this team.

[ForeverTFC]

so would you trade down now for any of these combos?

9 for 13 + 22
9 for 15 + 24
9 for 16 + 25

I could probably be convinced to do 9 for 13 + 22. not sure about the other 2 though.

Unless you really love someone at 22, there's no point. Even if you think what you can get at 9 and 13 is similar, we don't have enough roster spots and minutes to go around.

[wegotthabeet]

so would you trade down now for any of these combos?

9 for 13 + 22
9 for 15 + 24
9 for 16 + 25

I could probably be convinced to do 9 for 13 + 22. not sure about the other 2 though.

Unless you really love someone at 22, there's no point. Even if you think what you can get at 9 and 13 is similar, we don't have enough roster spots and minutes to go around.

yeah follow up trades are impossible.

who do you like @9?

[ForeverTFC]

so would you trade down now for any of these combos?

9 for 13 + 22
9 for 15 + 24
9 for 16 + 25

I could probably be convinced to do 9 for 13 + 22. not sure about the other 2 though.

Unless you really love someone at 22, there's no point. Even if you think what you can get at 9 and 13 is similar, we don't have enough roster spots and minutes to go around.

yeah follow up trades are impossible.

who do you like @9?

I mean sure, if you have other moves stacked then it changes the equation. Probably should amend the condition to allow for follow-on moves. My point is, unless they love someone in the 20s, I don't think it's worth it to have 21st round guys on this roster.

And no idea. I'm a Maluach guy but I can see Washington, Jazz and Nets all talking themselves into him. I need to study the guys in our range now.

[CazOnReal]

The one reason I could be talked into picks 13 + 22 for 9 is because it gives you a cost effective contract for that final roster slot if Boucher says he's "gone" gone.

But trading down is a lot more difficult to do in practice than in theory.

[sidsid]

Falling back to 9 means the likelihood Masai ships it out for one of the lesser stars goes up. Trae for IQ and 9 type of situations.

[wegotthabeet]

The one reason I could be talked into picks 13 + 22 for 9 is because it gives you a cost effective contract for that final roster slot if Boucher says he's "gone" gone.

But trading down is a lot more difficult to do in practice than in theory.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but the 13 + 22 would $2 million more than just keeping the 9th. Makes me doubt my original proposal. Not sure it actually makes sense financially.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

I know I'll get hate for this but man would I love to get Jaylen Brown here. Make whatever roster moves you need to make after but he would be so good on this team.

like the player. he'd be a good fit. don't like the contract tho

[sidsid]

The Celtics will likely want to cut salary and I'd rather not give up any more of our future picks for whatever the FO is cooking up.

Jrue is old and has a longish contract but swapping him for RJ (likely to a third team for an expiring) would solve a few issues and at least be fun to see. Locks in some financial implications which would prevent the team from making more damaging trades or signings.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

If Giannis wants to come here, the only trade we can really do is Scottie/Dick/Ochai and picks for Giannis straight up.

Team would be gutted with no room to really improve and with all our picks gone. Would be a big bet on RJ and IQ to actually be good enough to make a playoff run with. Not sure I'd make the swing although it would immediately catapult us to being on par with the top of the East. Giannis dragged the corpse of that Bucks team into the top 6 by himself

If we manage to haggle a way into keeping our first this year, we would probably attempt to trade down and grab 2 more bench pieces for cheap because we'd have no room to sign people

[billy_hoyle]

If Cha drafts Harper or Bailey and we draft Maluach:

We should trade:

IQ + Dick for LaMelo Ball

Ball, Shead
RJ, Walter, Lawson
Ingram, Ochai, Battle
Barnes, Mogbo
Poeltl, Maluach, Chomche

+2nd rounder and space for a cheap FA.

[billy_hoyle]

If we end up with Traore, Fears or Kas Jak:

IQ + Dick for KCP, WCJ, Caleb Houston and the 16th (Flemming) + 25 (?)

Kas Jak/Traore, Shead
RJ, Walter, KCP, Houston
Ingram, Ochai, Battle
Barnes, Flemming, Mogbo
Poeltl, WCJ, Chomche

[TGM]

Mavs looking for a PG. we should trade IQ for PJ and Gafford and a future first. Use our lotto pick to take Jac from Illinois. Jac is going to be a future allstar.

[CazOnReal]

The one reason I could be talked into picks 13 + 22 for 9 is because it gives you a cost effective contract for that final roster slot if Boucher says he's "gone" gone.

But trading down is a lot more difficult to do in practice than in theory.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but the 13 + 22 would $2 million more than just keeping the 9th. Makes me doubt my original proposal. Not sure it actually makes sense financially.

As in 13 + 22 vs 9 vs the vet minimum for that presumed final roster slot which is a) over $2 million [last I checked] and b) not going to give you cheap depth that can grow with this core/will certainly not be on a rookie scale contract for 4 years

[wegotthabeet]

The one reason I could be talked into picks 13 + 22 for 9 is because it gives you a cost effective contract for that final roster slot if Boucher says he's "gone" gone.

But trading down is a lot more difficult to do in practice than in theory.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but the 13 + 22 would $2 million more than just keeping the 9th. Makes me doubt my original proposal. Not sure it actually makes sense financially.

As in 13 + 22 vs 9 vs the vet minimum for that presumed final roster slot which is a) over $2 million [last I checked] and b) not going to give you cheap depth that can grow with this core/will certainly not be on a rookie scale contract for 4 years

It depends on total years in the league, an undrafted rookie making the vet min is roughly $1.3 mil. They could save maybe 700k by keeping the 9th overall pick.

Either way the motivation for trading down wouldn't be saving $. You trade down because the player you like is likely to be there at 13 and you also really like a couple other prospects in the 22 range.

[Psubs]

In 25 mins, Luke Kornet had 10 pts, 9 rebs, 7 blks, 1 ast and 1 stl, shooting 5 for 5.

[Rapsfan07]

If we end up with Traore, Fears or Kas Jak:

IQ + Dick for KCP, WCJ, Caleb Houston and the 16th (Flemming) + 25 (?)

Kas Jak/Traore, Shead
RJ, Walter, KCP, Houston
Ingram, Ochai, Battle
Barnes, Flemming, Mogbo
Poeltl, WCJ, Chomche

This is really bad man

[Rapsfan07]

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but the 13 + 22 would $2 million more than just keeping the 9th. Makes me doubt my original proposal. Not sure it actually makes sense financially.

As in 13 + 22 vs 9 vs the vet minimum for that presumed final roster slot which is a) over $2 million [last I checked] and b) not going to give you cheap depth that can grow with this core/will certainly not be on a rookie scale contract for 4 years

It depends on total years in the league, an undrafted rookie making the vet min is roughly $1.3 mil. They could save maybe 700k by keeping the 9th overall pick.

Either way the motivation for trading down wouldn't be saving $. You trade down because the player you like is likely to be there at 13 and you also really like a couple other prospects in the 22 range.

I was all for moving down but now I'm not so sure.

From a team needs perspective, we really should be looking at bigs. There'll be a ton of competent Cs in the second round so I'm not worried about that but we don't really have a viable backup PF. I'm not sold on Mogbo being much more than an energy, end of roster guy as he's very raw and doesn't have much to offer on the offensive end. That said, I think the guy we "should" go for is Fleming.

IMO #9 feels a little rich for him and if you trade down for #13 & #22, there's no guarantee he's going to be there - let alone the other quality prospects you would have also missed out on like Kasp or Coward.

Now I like Kasp but there's no way we can draft everyone. Seeing that we already have IQ and there's nothing about Kasp that I've seen so far that guarantees me he's an upgrade to IQ, I think we should take Fleming instead. If we could trade Dick for a mid first to grab Coward and use the second rounder on a C, that's as good a draft as we could hope for.

[wegotthabeet]

As in 13 + 22 vs 9 vs the vet minimum for that presumed final roster slot which is a) over $2 million [last I checked] and b) not going to give you cheap depth that can grow with this core/will certainly not be on a rookie scale contract for 4 years

It depends on total years in the league, an undrafted rookie making the vet min is roughly $1.3 mil. They could save maybe 700k by keeping the 9th overall pick.

Either way the motivation for trading down wouldn't be saving $. You trade down because the player you like is likely to be there at 13 and you also really like a couple other prospects in the 22 range.

I was all for moving down but now I'm not so sure.

From a team needs perspective, we really should be looking at bigs. There'll be a ton of competent Cs in the second round so I'm not worried about that but we don't really have a viable backup PF. I'm not sold on Mogbo being much more than an energy, end of roster guy as he's very raw and doesn't have much to offer on the offensive end. That said, I think the guy we "should" go for is Fleming.

IMO #9 feels a little rich for him and if you trade down for #13 & #22, there's no guarantee he's going to be there - let alone the other quality prospects you would have also missed out on like Kasp or Coward.

Now I like Kasp but there's no way we can draft everyone. Seeing that we already have IQ and there's nothing about Kasp that I've seen so far that guarantees me he's an upgrade to IQ, I think we should take Fleming instead. If we could trade Dick for a mid first to grab Coward and use the second rounder on a C, that's as good a draft as we could hope for.

It really depends on who they like and who’s still available at 9, but I think Fleming is probably still on the board at 13. Fleming + Sorber would be a great draft. Coward might still be available in the second round.