Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread

dagger · Post #1161 » by **dagger** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:16 pm

RaptorsInsider1 wrote:If it gets to the point where Kanter, Valanciunas or Vesley are the best players available when we pick then i'd flat out trade the pick.. We already have a enough of young players without any superstar potential we don't need another..

First of all, you haven't seen these guys play, so why indulge in stereotypes. It's so lame. If Kanter had played a few games for Kentucky he would have ceased to be a Turk and of course you'd be fully on board.

Secondly, aside from maybe Irving, this draft doesn't have obvious superstar talents like Griffin, Carmelo, Durant, Rose, Evans, Wall, etc., all of whom were way more impactful than this year's freshman/sophs. That's not to say some of this year's top picks won't have good careers, even make some all-star games, but the current crop doesn't suggest superstar to most of us.

Silk Wilkes · Post #1162 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:25 pm

dagger wrote:
Youngblood wrote:My dream draft = 4 things.

-Harrison Barnes with the Raps pick
-Acquire a mid-first rounder for Brandon Knight (trade board idea: Calderon/Kleiza for Bibby/Williams + ATL first)
-Announcement the Miami pick has been dealt for Anthony Randolph
-LaceDarius Dunn with our 2nd round pick

Knight/Bayless
DeRozan/Barbosa/Dunn
Barnes/Williams/Weems/Wright
Johnson/Davis/Randolph
Bargnani/Dorsey/Alabi

...then a subsequent deal is made to deal Barbosa unless it has been done.

-Harrison Barnes has to show me more before he warrants a top 10 pick
-Brandon Knight? meh. With a mid-first, I'd look at Fredette or if he's available Vesely
-I'm afraid Randolph will be traded for a late-teen pick by then. Watch Indiana for that
-We don't have a second round pick, at least not yet.

Oh yea, the Delfino deal. Draft Dunn with the Miami pick then.

Barnes and Knight stand, they'll be very good imo. I agree that Barnes needs to show more, but we're drafting based on potential, and if a guy with Barnes' potential is available at our pick (could be anywhere from 5-10) you take him no questions asked and try to develop his talent.

Knight will be better than Fredette and Vesely imo. He fits our needs at the point much more than Fredette, and Vesely will be gone in the lottery anyways. I can't get enough Brandon Knight, he just oozes potential similar to Russell Westbrook when he was drafted. No one knew Westbrook would be this good but OKC took a shot and the only way we jump off that proverbial treadmill will be to take chances. I'm not saying he's Russell Westbrook but I think you understand.

Post #1163 » by **DG88** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:03 pm

Right now we are slated for the 6th pick we should probably in the running for the 5th or 4th pick before the draft lottery selection that people still forget about. That process fully determines whether we stay where we are, move up or move down. If we end up with the 5th or 4th pick and move up into the top 3 that would be the most ideal situation.

DreamTeam09 · Post #1164 » by **DreamTeam09** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:03 pm

Walker, Selby, Knight will all be there by the time we pick. If not all 3 then 2 of em for sure... Its just that they haven't excited me yet like the Jones have.

PS. P.Jones is not a PF. He's a SF in the NBA. Putting him at te 4 would be absurd. He just plays the 4 moretimes at for Baylor because they should. Baylor is a good school to.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #1165 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:06 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:Walker, Selby, Knight will all be there by the time we pick. If not all 3 then 2 of em for sure... Its just that they haven't excited me yet like the Jones have.

PS. P.Jones is not a PF. He's a SF in the NBA. Putting him at te 4 would be absurd. He just plays the 4 moretimes at for Baylor because they should. Baylor is a good school to.

i really want Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes. If none of those are available id be happy with Walker or Knight but they dont scream out to be like the above guys do.

Maybe if we end up 6th we can move the Miami Pick + Cash and try to get up t0 #4 and get one of the Jones/Irving/Barnes

DreamTeam09 · Post #1166 » by **DreamTeam09** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:32 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Walker, Selby, Knight will all be there by the time we pick. If not all 3 then 2 of em for sure... Its just that they haven't excited me yet like the Jones have.

PS. P.Jones is not a PF. He's a SF in the NBA. Putting him at te 4 would be absurd. He just plays the 4 moretimes at for Baylor because they should. Baylor is a good school to.

i really want Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes. If none of those are available id be happy with Walker or Knight but they dont scream out to be like the above guys do.

Maybe if we end up 6th we can move the Miami Pick + Cash and try to get up t0 #4 and get one of the Jones/Irving/Barnes

Yea we really do need any one of those 4. I wouldn't reach to move up for barnes like I would for the others tho.

Man of Steel · Post #1167 » by **Man of Steel** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:28 pm

tbh I think pushing DeMar up to the 3 and letting Brandon Knight play the 2 (as a combo guard) will work out better than if we draft Harrison Barnes and let him play the 3.

Silk Wilkes · Post #1168 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:36 pm

luisnani wrote:tbh I think pushing DeMar up to the 3 and letting Brandon Knight play the 2 (as a combo guard) will work out better than if we draft Harrison Barnes and let him play the 3.

We'd need some hugemongous bigs to protect the paint cause we'd get annihilated defensively.

Ackshun · Post #1169 » by **Ackshun** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:06 pm

my boy Nolan Smith has climbed up considerably in the last 3 weeks. If we do not have Barbosa or Bayless by the draft, I'd definitely love to have him here.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/72827

KL78192020 · Post #1170 » by **KL78192020** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:10 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Walker, Selby, Knight will all be there by the time we pick. If not all 3 then 2 of em for sure... Its just that they haven't excited me yet like the Jones have.

PS. P.Jones is not a PF. He's a SF in the NBA. Putting him at te 4 would be absurd. He just plays the 4 moretimes at for Baylor because they should. Baylor is a good school to.

i really want Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Kyrie Irving or Harrison Barnes. If none of those are available id be happy with Walker or Knight but they dont scream out to be like the above guys do.

Maybe if we end up 6th we can move the Miami Pick + Cash and try to get up t0 #4 and get one of the Jones/Irving/Barnes

This. I prefer T jones or Kyrie, but any of those four will do. I would love to have a Canadian with the Heat pick. Anyone of Cory Joseph/Tristan Thompson/Kris Joseph would be nice.

Saciid11 · Post #1171 » by **Saciid11** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:10 pm

This draft looks like is going to be horrible draft, other than Irving there is no one that you can say will be franchise changing player. If we don't get the top 5 pick or Irving and Kemba walker are gone by the the time we pick I wouldn't mind trading the pick for young prospects.... DeAndrea Jordan, Javaal Mcgee, Jeff Green, Thaddues Young..

My top 5 pick for Raps ( excluding Irving)

1. Kemba Walker
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Perry Jones
4. Terrence Jones
5. Alec Burk

Others

Josh Selby
Enes Kanter
Harris Barnes( has shown anything so far)
Jonas Valanciunas

KL78192020 · Post #1172 » by **KL78192020** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:34 pm

FYI Harrison Barnes on tonight at 7:30 on SN1. North Carolina versus Georgia Tech.

WhatsaTDot · Post #1173 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:53 pm

Tristan is going to be in the 2012 draft with Kabongo.

JN · Post #1174 » by JN » Mon Jan 17, 2011 12:51 am

SN1 fails again - they show the game on the regular channel but not HD. Idiots.

Silk Wilkes · Post #1175 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:01 am

JN wrote:SN1 fails again - they show the game on the regular channel but not HD. Idiots.

Don't be a spoiled brat, ball is ball. I'd watch it with Bob McKenzie and Steve Kouleas calling the game if I had to.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1176 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:02 am

Marshall has great court vision... I definitely would not mind picking him up if he declares and is still on the board with the Miami pick (although I guess neither of those is very likely)

dagger · Post #1177 » by **dagger** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:15 am

ozzykhan16 wrote:FYI Harrison Barnes on tonight at 7:30 on SN1. North Carolina versus Georgia Tech.

To watch Barnes is to cry that we have to have a high pick in this draft. Man he sucks, I'm not sure he'd be a top 20 pick in this draft.

I don't know how a prospect supposedly this good can stink out the joint so badly.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #1178 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:19 am

Yeah, Barnes is just...not good right now.

He's hesitating so much....it indicates his confidence may be shaken.

It sucks, 'cause he has the tools and he's a great kid.

EDIT: Nice aggressive drive by Barnes, earning a trip to the line. Needs to do more of that.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #1179 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:20 am

Barnes is percolating, folks. Another aggressive take.

Silk Wilkes · Post #1180 » by **Silk Wilkes** » Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:21 am

Barnes is doing some nice things in this game. I wouldn't be surprised if he lives up to the hype following this game. It seems like his confidence is crawling back.