2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Rapsfan07]

It depends on total years in the league, an undrafted rookie making the vet min is roughly $1.3 mil. They could save maybe 700k by keeping the 9th overall pick.

Either way the motivation for trading down wouldn't be saving $. You trade down because the player you like is likely to be there at 13 and you also really like a couple other prospects in the 22 range.

I was all for moving down but now I'm not so sure.

From a team needs perspective, we really should be looking at bigs. There'll be a ton of competent Cs in the second round so I'm not worried about that but we don't really have a viable backup PF. I'm not sold on Mogbo being much more than an energy, end of roster guy as he's very raw and doesn't have much to offer on the offensive end. That said, I think the guy we "should" go for is Fleming.

IMO #9 feels a little rich for him and if you trade down for #13 & #22, there's no guarantee he's going to be there - let alone the other quality prospects you would have also missed out on like Kasp or Coward.

Now I like Kasp but there's no way we can draft everyone. Seeing that we already have IQ and there's nothing about Kasp that I've seen so far that guarantees me he's an upgrade to IQ, I think we should take Fleming instead. If we could trade Dick for a mid first to grab Coward and use the second rounder on a C, that's as good a draft as we could hope for.

It really depends on who they like and who’s still available at 9, but I think Fleming is probably still on the board at 13. Fleming + Sorber would be a great draft. Coward might still be available in the second round.

Not a chance Coward is available in the second round. I'd be surprised if he's still on the board after the mid-first.

I don't hate Sorber but I wouldn't take him over Coward when I could just grab Condon, Kalkbrenner or maybe even Broome in the second round. There isn't a big enough difference in potential, role and impact between these guys and Sorber to me.

[Psubs]

I was all for moving down but now I'm not so sure.

From a team needs perspective, we really should be looking at bigs. There'll be a ton of competent Cs in the second round so I'm not worried about that but we don't really have a viable backup PF. I'm not sold on Mogbo being much more than an energy, end of roster guy as he's very raw and doesn't have much to offer on the offensive end. That said, I think the guy we "should" go for is Fleming.

IMO #9 feels a little rich for him and if you trade down for #13 & #22, there's no guarantee he's going to be there - let alone the other quality prospects you would have also missed out on like Kasp or Coward.

Now I like Kasp but there's no way we can draft everyone. Seeing that we already have IQ and there's nothing about Kasp that I've seen so far that guarantees me he's an upgrade to IQ, I think we should take Fleming instead. If we could trade Dick for a mid first to grab Coward and use the second rounder on a C, that's as good a draft as we could hope for.

It really depends on who they like and who’s still available at 9, but I think Fleming is probably still on the board at 13. Fleming + Sorber would be a great draft. Coward might still be available in the second round.

Not a chance Coward is available in the second round. I'd be surprised if he's still on the board after the mid-first.

I don't hate Sorber but I wouldn't take him over Coward when I could just grab Condon, Kalkbrenner or maybe even Broome in the second round. There isn't a big enough difference in potential, role and impact between these guys and Sorber to me.

Ya, I see OKC drafting Egor Demin at #15 and then Coward at #24.

OKC should trade for Devin Vassell. Nikola Topic, Isaiah Joe, Ousmane Dieng and Dillon Jones for Vassell.


PG SGA - Cason - Vassell
SG Dort/Vassell - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins - Caruso
PF Chet - Kenrich/Demin
C Hartenstein - Chet - JaylinW

[Rapsfan07]

It really depends on who they like and who’s still available at 9, but I think Fleming is probably still on the board at 13. Fleming + Sorber would be a great draft. Coward might still be available in the second round.

Not a chance Coward is available in the second round. I'd be surprised if he's still on the board after the mid-first.

I don't hate Sorber but I wouldn't take him over Coward when I could just grab Condon, Kalkbrenner or maybe even Broome in the second round. There isn't a big enough difference in potential, role and impact between these guys and Sorber to me.

Ya, I see OKC drafting Egor Demin at #15 and then Coward at #24.

OKC should trade for Devin Vassell. Nikola Topic, Isaiah Joe, Ousmane Dieng and Dillon Jones for Vassell.


PG SGA - Cason - Vassell
SG Dort/Vassell - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins - Caruso
PF Chet - Kenrich/Demin
C Hartenstein - Chet - JaylinW

We cannot allow OKC to get their hands on Coward under any circumstances lol.

But yes, I do think Vassell would be a great fit for OKC.

[CazOnReal]

One thing about trading up/down: This FO has only ever added to their draft selections in a given class without touching their current selections i.e. adding Shead & Norm in their respective draft classes. They have engaged in trying to trade up/back in for guys like Giannis and Shai but as one can tell by them not being on the Raptors roster, it's easier said than done.

I do think if there's a move to be made for this team, it's using that Lakers 2nd and the Portland 2nd to potentially move up either to an earlier 2nd round pick or into a late 1st round pick. That's the sort of marginal move that they love and if there's someone who falls into the 20s I can see Bobby valuing that final year of a $2M-ish contract over having to pay said rookie an extension a year earlier.

[sidsid]

The Mavs being given a lifeline means the AD trades have to be reconsidered now you'd think. The west is still too tough and you can use the tank time. The Hornets have their 2027 pick and you'd think they'd be interested in winning for a change. Don't know if they'd also give them the 4th or a trade down pick with it, but just looking at ways to send some talent to the east. Charlotte has contracts in Bridges and Nurkic to move.

Also would bring up some interesting Kyrie trades, too.

[Rapsalot]

What is Ochai value in draft capital? Seams like a late first is what we gave Jazz. I think KO was good but not part of their plan and they were OK dropping his $ even though expiring.

Ochai had his best year and gave more value but not sure with BI we will have mins or can afford to extend.
Wondering if we could trade OA to Nets for say the 27th pick if they agree not to pick who we are targeting there and swap rights to ATL second for LAL second next year?

[Tripod]

What is Ochai value in draft capital? Seams like a late first is what we gave Jazz. I think KO was good but not part of their plan and they were OK dropping his $ even though expiring.

Ochai had his best year and gave more value but not sure with BI we will have mins or can afford to extend.
Wondering if we could trade OA to Nets for say the 27th pick if they agree not to pick who we are targeting there and swap rights to ATL second for LAL second next year?

Our best 3+D guy right now. Maybe we keep him and play him instead of moving him for a mystery box that might help the team in a few years.

And we got him in a deal for #29 when he had yet to have a 40% shooting season. His value has increased...more than to #27.

[OhCanada]

I think Toronto is going to trade Grady Dick to Utah. Theres alot of ways this trade could work. We could trade up from 9 to 5. We could trade for Walker Kessler who is on the last year of his contract. They also have picks number 21, 43 and 53 and plenty of picks in 2027 and 2028 to add to the deal. Grady Dick probably becomes a star on that Utah team and probably wont have that oppurtunity here in Toronto.

[OhCanada]

It really depends on who they like and who’s still available at 9, but I think Fleming is probably still on the board at 13. Fleming + Sorber would be a great draft. Coward might still be available in the second round.

Not a chance Coward is available in the second round. I'd be surprised if he's still on the board after the mid-first.

I don't hate Sorber but I wouldn't take him over Coward when I could just grab Condon, Kalkbrenner or maybe even Broome in the second round. There isn't a big enough difference in potential, role and impact between these guys and Sorber to me.

Ya, I see OKC drafting Egor Demin at #15 and then Coward at #24.

OKC should trade for Devin Vassell. Nikola Topic, Isaiah Joe, Ousmane Dieng and Dillon Jones for Vassell.


PG SGA - Cason - Vassell
SG Dort/Vassell - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins - Caruso
PF Chet - Kenrich/Demin
C Hartenstein - Chet - JaylinW

Both players are gone by #15.

[Godaddycurse]

It really depends on who they like and who’s still available at 9, but I think Fleming is probably still on the board at 13. Fleming + Sorber would be a great draft. Coward might still be available in the second round.

Not a chance Coward is available in the second round. I'd be surprised if he's still on the board after the mid-first.

I don't hate Sorber but I wouldn't take him over Coward when I could just grab Condon, Kalkbrenner or maybe even Broome in the second round. There isn't a big enough difference in potential, role and impact between these guys and Sorber to me.

Ya, I see OKC drafting Egor Demin at #15 and then Coward at #24.

OKC should trade for Devin Vassell. Nikola Topic, Isaiah Joe, Ousmane Dieng and Dillon Jones for Vassell.


PG SGA - Cason - Vassell
SG Dort/Vassell - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins - Caruso
PF Chet - Kenrich/Demin
C Hartenstein - Chet - JaylinW

why in the world are they trading for a 27M Vassell to be the 4th guard in their rotation? They have impending max coming up for Chet and Jdub. thats crazy. Vassell wasn't even good this year

[Duffman100]

Not a chance Coward is available in the second round. I'd be surprised if he's still on the board after the mid-first.

I don't hate Sorber but I wouldn't take him over Coward when I could just grab Condon, Kalkbrenner or maybe even Broome in the second round. There isn't a big enough difference in potential, role and impact between these guys and Sorber to me.

Ya, I see OKC drafting Egor Demin at #15 and then Coward at #24.

OKC should trade for Devin Vassell. Nikola Topic, Isaiah Joe, Ousmane Dieng and Dillon Jones for Vassell.


PG SGA - Cason - Vassell
SG Dort/Vassell - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins - Caruso
PF Chet - Kenrich/Demin
C Hartenstein - Chet - JaylinW

why in the world are they trading for a 27M Vassell to be the 4th guard in their rotation? They have impending max coming up for Chet and Jdub. thats crazy. Vassell wasn't even good this year

Yeah I think I'd rather have Joe over Vassel at this point for that team construction.

[Tripod]

Ya, I see OKC drafting Egor Demin at #15 and then Coward at #24.

OKC should trade for Devin Vassell. Nikola Topic, Isaiah Joe, Ousmane Dieng and Dillon Jones for Vassell.


PG SGA - Cason - Vassell
SG Dort/Vassell - Caruso
SF JalenW - Wiggins - Caruso
PF Chet - Kenrich/Demin
C Hartenstein - Chet - JaylinW

why in the world are they trading for a 27M Vassell to be the 4th guard in their rotation? They have impending max coming up for Chet and Jdub. thats crazy. Vassell wasn't even good this year

Yeah I think I'd rather have Joe over Vassel at this point for that team construction.

Yeah OKC should be keeping the cheaper talent unless it's for an actual difference maker.

They can afford to develop some youth thru the regular season because they have lots of games where they can blow out teams. Adding Topic +15 pick this year to next years team. Would not surprise me to see them trade #24 for a future 1st. Push things down the line to keep the pipeline going.

[Rapsalot]

What is Ochai value in draft capital? Seams like a late first is what we gave Jazz. I think KO was good but not part of their plan and they were OK dropping his $ even though expiring.

Ochai had his best year and gave more value but not sure with BI we will have mins or can afford to extend.
Wondering if we could trade OA to Nets for say the 27th pick if they agree not to pick who we are targeting there and swap rights to ATL second for LAL second next year?

Our best 3+D guy right now. Maybe we keep him and play him instead of moving him for a mystery box that might help the team in a few years.

And we got him in a deal for #29 when he had yet to have a 40% shooting season. His value has increased...more than to #27.

I hope you are right. Look I like all our players but even moving back from 7-9 we will be in a tax issue. If we can get below that this year it would be great to reduce repeater problems in future. Let’s say BI is healthy for 60 games when you rest him 8-9 Back to backs? I think we all want J’KW and maybe even GD playing mins before OA? That is not even counting RJB. If there are lots of injuries it will be a lost year. That is the only way I see OA playing for us and he will need to be extended this year for future.

If we traded OA + 39 + pick swap LAL 2026 second if worse than 2026 ATL second I would be happy with = Nets 26th + 36# + 2026 ATL second if more favorable than lakers next year.

This helps us move up in the 2nd round one draft and maybe 2. We have 3 holes in roster C, Bigger wing with defense and PG depth in case IQ not as healthy as we would like.

Maybe you could pull KM or DQ at 9, Yaxel L or Adou T at 26 and then Tyrese P or Milos U at 36. You do this and save $5mil over what was planned with OA + the 7th pick and 39th. Long term we are more competitive with more diversity of depth.

[RoteSchroder]

What is Ochai value in draft capital? Seams like a late first is what we gave Jazz. I think KO was good but not part of their plan and they were OK dropping his $ even though expiring.

Ochai had his best year and gave more value but not sure with BI we will have mins or can afford to extend.
Wondering if we could trade OA to Nets for say the 27th pick if they agree not to pick who we are targeting there and swap rights to ATL second for LAL second next year?

Our best 3+D guy right now. Maybe we keep him and play him instead of moving him for a mystery box that might help the team in a few years.

And we got him in a deal for #29 when he had yet to have a 40% shooting season. His value has increased...more than to #27.

I hope you are right. Look I like all our players but even moving back from 7-9 we will be in a tax issue. If we can get below that this year it would be great to reduce repeater problems in future. Let’s say BI is healthy for 60 games when you rest him 8-9 Back to backs? I think we all want J’KW and maybe even GD playing mins before OA? That is not even counting RJB. If there are lots of injuries it will be a lost year. That is the only way I see OA playing for us and he will need to be extended this year for future.

If we traded OA + 39 + pick swap LAL 2026 second if worse than 2026 ATL second I would be happy with = Nets 26th + 36# + 2026 ATL second if more favorable than lakers next year.

This helps us move up in the 2nd round one draft and maybe 2. We have 3 holes in roster C, Bigger wing with defense and PG depth in case IQ not as healthy as we would like.

Maybe you could pull KM or DQ at 9, Yaxel L or Adou T at 26 and then Tyrese P or Milos U at 36. You do this and save $5mil over what was planned with OA + the 7th pick and 39th. Long term we are more competitive with more diversity of depth.

Orlando doesn't have enough roster space for too many rookies. They need shooting and they like defense. I wouldn't want to undersell on Ochai though, he has really solid role player value and I'd want more than just #25..unless there's someone we really like there.

[Tripod]

Would you trade RJ for Collins?

[CazOnReal]

Would you trade RJ for Collins?

I'd consider it but it highly depends on whether John Collins declines his player option and it's a sign & trade or if it's straight up with him as an expiring opting in to his PO. In either case, i'm hoping to move pick #39 for that 2nd 1st the Jazz have (Can't remember where it is off the top of my head).

They're very different players but i'd say RJ is better in his role than Collins is since JC has that "tweener" issue of being too small to be a true small ball 5 and not quick enough to switch on to guys on the perimeter at the 4. At the same time...John is probably a better fit by way of being a better defender overall (Which isn't to say Collins is some strong defensive presence) and by just straight up shooting the 3 better than RJ. Plus he doesn't need the ball in his hands as much to be effective.

[Rapsalot]

Our best 3+D guy right now. Maybe we keep him and play him instead of moving him for a mystery box that might help the team in a few years.

And we got him in a deal for #29 when he had yet to have a 40% shooting season. His value has increased...more than to #27.

I hope you are right. Look I like all our players but even moving back from 7-9 we will be in a tax issue. If we can get below that this year it would be great to reduce repeater problems in future. Let’s say BI is healthy for 60 games when you rest him 8-9 Back to backs? I think we all want J’KW and maybe even GD playing mins before OA? That is not even counting RJB. If there are lots of injuries it will be a lost year. That is the only way I see OA playing for us and he will need to be extended this year for future.

If we traded OA + 39 + pick swap LAL 2026 second if worse than 2026 ATL second I would be happy with = Nets 26th + 36# + 2026 ATL second if more favorable than lakers next year.

This helps us move up in the 2nd round one draft and maybe 2. We have 3 holes in roster C, Bigger wing with defense and PG depth in case IQ not as healthy as we would like.

Maybe you could pull KM or DQ at 9, Yaxel L or Adou T at 26 and then Tyrese P or Milos U at 36. You do this and save $5mil over what was planned with OA + the 7th pick and 39th. Long term we are more competitive with more diversity of depth.

Orlando doesn't have enough roster space for too many rookies. They need shooting and they like defense. I wouldn't want to undersell on Ochai though, he has really solid role player value and I'd want more than just #25..unless there's someone we really like there.

Nets idea not Orlando thanks

[LoveMyRaps]

Bobby/Masai made it clear that they need to bolster the front court this summer.

If you look at the four Eastern Conference finalists - Cavs, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers - they all have a stretch big (i.e., Mobley, Porzingis, KAT, Turner).

If we don't draft Maluach, I expect us to be very active in the trade market in order to acquire a capable shooting front-court partner for Scottie.

Poeltl is great but he isn't gonna cut it, especially when the rest of the starting line up consists of average to below average 3pt shooters (Ingram, RJ, Scottie).

[CazOnReal]

Bobby/Masai made it clear that they need to bolster the front court this summer.

If you look at the four Eastern Conference finalists - Cavs, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers - they all have a stretch big (i.e., Mobley, Porzingis, KAT, Turner).

If we don't draft Maluach, I expect us to be very active in the trade market in order to acquire a capable shooting front-court partner for Scottie.

Poeltl is great but he isn't gonna cut it, especially when the rest of the starting line up consists of average to below average 3pt shooters (Ingram, RJ, Scottie).

Stretch bigs - quality stretch bigs - do not grow on trees.

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

Bobby/Masai made it clear that they need to bolster the front court this summer.

If you look at the four Eastern Conference finalists - Cavs, Celtics, Knicks, Pacers - they all have a stretch big (i.e., Mobley, Porzingis, KAT, Turner).

If we don't draft Maluach, I expect us to be very active in the trade market in order to acquire a capable shooting front-court partner for Scottie.

Poeltl is great but he isn't gonna cut it, especially when the rest of the starting line up consists of average to below average 3pt shooters (Ingram, RJ, Scottie).

Stretch bigs - quality stretch bigs - do not grow on trees.

Naz Reid is the guy, been wanting him for YEARS man.

Also one trade I saw that could benefit us is a IQ for Jamal Murray swap.