2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 8

OakleyDokely · Post #1161 » by **OakleyDokely** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:17 pm

Wouldn't be shocked if VJ, Tre, Maluach, maybe even Fears go ahead of Ace. I think Ace is most likely to slip.

Ace's stats aren't analytically friendly (questionable efficiency, assist rate, ft rate), he measured below expectations and Givony described his interviews as "polarizing"

Rodrickle · Post #1162 » by **Rodrickle** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:20 pm

If I had to bet on someone dropping on draft night it would be Ace. I think he got some flaws and might not be a winning player

RoteSchroder · Post #1163 » by **RoteSchroder** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:21 pm

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Ron Harper?

RoteSchroder · Post #1164 » by **RoteSchroder** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:22 pm

Rodrickle wrote:If I had to bet on someone dropping on draft night it would be Ace. I think he got some flaws and might not be a winning player

Hope someone takes him before us

WuTang_OG · Post #1165 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:29 pm

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Dalek · Post #1166 » by **Dalek** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:32 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Noa Essengue gives my Jalen Johnson vibes in terms of potential skillset. Johnson was more polished coming into the draft though.

I actually had the Jalen Johnson comp for Asa Newell. He is a draft archetype that needs to be reviewed further. Jalen Johnson was a steal where he was picked in 2021 and about 6'9, good all-around game who went 20th overall.

• One of the more unique players in college basketball, Johnson handled the ball quite a bit as a freshman, even if he started many sets under the rim as well. Generating nearly a quarter of his opportunities in transition scoring 1.00 points per transition possession [47th percentile], he showed the ability to grab and go off the glass, finish emphatically filling lanes, and find the open man in space. Scoring more consistently with his left hand some games than others, Johnson has room to become more reliable in that regard and more savvy using his tools to get to the line.

• In the half court, Johnson did some of his best work at the rim. Averaging 1.55 points per cut possession [94th percentile] and 1.39 points per shot around the rim in the half court [87th percentile] overall, his ability to get downhill was a plus at times, but his timing as a cutter and consistency finishing when operating off the ball drove his efficiency. Finding the open man zipping passes past defenders but making some avoidable mistakes as a facilitator, Johnson had some ups and downs looking to create off the bounce.

• Averaging 1.65 points per catch and shoot jump shot in the half court [99th percentile] on limited attempts, Johnson is still ironing out his shooting mechanics and did not show much in the way of pull-up and free throw shooting ability.

https://www.nba.com/draft/2021/prospects/jalen-johnson

I don't think neither Noa or Asa are going to get downhill too often in the NBA. Maybe Derik Queen is the closest to Jalen Johnson judging from per36 numbers, although Queen is not a shooting threat. I'd say Nique Clifford might be close.

Post #1167 » by **DG88** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 4:45 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Wouldn't be shocked if VJ, Tre, Maluach, maybe even Fears go ahead of Ace. I think Ace is most likely to slip.

Ace's stats aren't analytically friendly (questionable efficiency, assist rate, ft rate), he measured below expectations and Givony described his interviews as "polarizing"

I'm of the same mindset that he's the most likely to slip of the projected top 5.

WuTang_OG · Post #1168 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:32 pm

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PhilBlackson · Post #1169 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:44 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

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Noooo lol not our King Maluach.

Even if they don’t I have less and less confidence he’s makes it to our pick. If we even hold on to this pick it’s likely gonna be one of Bryant, Coward, Noa or darkhorse Fleming.

LoveMyRaps · Post #1170 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 5:56 pm

Wonder who the Bucks are picking with the 9th pick

Syd-TK3 · Post #1171 » by **Syd-TK3** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 6:06 pm

Lol at everyone overthinking Ace. Yes please let him fall to us

mihaic · Post #1172 » by **mihaic** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 6:46 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
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Ron Harper?

No, highly unlikely, I don't think Harper's son drops to 9th.

earthtone · Post #1173 » by **earthtone** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 6:58 pm

mihaic wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
niQ wrote:

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Ron Harper?

No, highly unlikely, I don't think Harper's son drops to 9th.

Feel like Ron Harper makes a lot of sense if Milwaukee & San Antonio are in trade talks

mihaic · Post #1174 » by **mihaic** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 6:59 pm

earthtone wrote:
mihaic wrote:
RoteSchroder wrote:
Ron Harper?

No, highly unlikely, I don't think Harper's son drops to 9th.

Feel like Ron Harper makes a lot of sense if Milwaukee & San Antonio are in trade talks

I agree, I was just saying it jokingly.

earthtone · Post #1175 » by **earthtone** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:00 pm

mihaic wrote:
earthtone wrote:
mihaic wrote:No, highly unlikely, I don't think Harper's son drops to 9th.

Feel like Ron Harper makes a lot of sense if Milwaukee & San Antonio are in trade talks

I agree, I was just saying it jokingly.

hard to read tone on here, my bad :lol:

douggood · Post #1176 » by **douggood** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:04 pm

RoteSchroder wrote:
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Ron Harper?

spurs at 2 and 14
raptors at 9
rockets at 10 are the only logical teams.

WuTang_OG · Post #1177 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 7:46 pm

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Khaman Maluach is the best big man in this draft class. At over 7'0″ tall with a near 7'7″ wingspan, Maluach is immediately going to make an impact as one of the league's best shot-blockers. He also has the potential to be an elite pick-and-roll screener. This is not only because of his lob-threat abilities but also because Maluach has the potential to become a pick-and-pop shooter.

Between his footwork in the paint and on the perimeter, Maluach has consistently been getting better through the months and is now locked into being a top-10 pick in this year's draft. The Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans Pelicans, Brooklyn Nets, and Toronto Raptors are deemed by league personnel as the top four landing spots for the Duke center three weeks out from the draft.

5. VJ Edgec

Yallbecrazy · Post #1178 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 8:19 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

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Khaman Maluach is the best big man in this draft class. At over 7'0″ tall with a near 7'7″ wingspan, Maluach is immediately going to make an impact as one of the league's best shot-blockers. He also has the potential to be an elite pick-and-roll screener. This is not only because of his lob-threat abilities but also because Maluach has the potential to become a pick-and-pop shooter.

Between his footwork in the paint and on the perimeter, Maluach has consistently been getting better through the months and is now locked into being a top-10 pick in this year's draft. The Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans Pelicans, Brooklyn Nets, and Toronto Raptors are deemed by league personnel as the top four landing spots for the Duke center three weeks out from the draft.

5. VJ Edgec

If he didn't get many in college I don't see how he's going to translate to one of the league's best. I guess it's just" this guy big, this guy must be good at blocking shots. "

Basketball_Jones · Post #1179 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 8:49 pm

Philly is a good spot for Khaman. Potentially less pressurized minutes and opportunity to start a lot of games with Embiid rest. Philly also doesn’t need super immediate starting lineup help other then just staying healthy. And Khaman is a Nick Nurse type of player.

Pointgod · Post #1180 » by **Pointgod** » Mon Jun 2, 2025 8:58 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:Philly is a good spot for Khaman. Potentially less pressurized minutes and opportunity to start a lot of games with Embiid rest. Philly also doesn’t need super immediate starting lineup help other then just staying healthy. And Khaman is a Nick Nurse type of player.

I wouldn’t use a top 3 pick on a project big that’s going to be a back up.