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With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles!

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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#1161 » by navyblue » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:37 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Gotta think a trade involving multiple players is coming this offseason....How will Darko find mins for everyone on the team...

Quickley
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Yak

Dick
Walter
Ochai
CMB
Mogbo
Shead

Battle

I mean 11 player rotation is not ideal....Some of these guys will lose out on alot of mins this year....I think a move to turn some of these guys into 1 upgraded player needs to happen....

Injuries are bound to happen. I can understand a consolidation trade but it's not necessary. And during the regular season depth is what matters, we may suffer when / if it comes to playoffs.
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Post#1162 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:40 pm

navyblue wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Gotta think a trade involving multiple players is coming this offseason....How will Darko find mins for everyone on the team...

Quickley
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Yak

Dick
Walter
Ochai
CMB
Mogbo
Shead

Battle

I mean 11 player rotation is not ideal....Some of these guys will lose out on alot of mins this year....I think a move to turn some of these guys into 1 upgraded player needs to happen....

Injuries are bound to happen. I can understand a consolidation trade but it's not necessary.


Players will end up being unhappy if they think they deserve mins....I mean yeah injuries do happen but for winning purposes as well it would be wise to move a few of these guys for 1 solid winning player upgrade....Maybe RJ + 1 or 2 guys on the bench for a legit upgrade either in the starting lineup or another player who will play 25 mins off the bench....RJ/Walter/Dick/Ochai logjam is a problem....
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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#1163 » by Gavin_TDThree » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:42 pm

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Clutch0z24 wrote:Gotta think a trade involving multiple players is coming this offseason....How will Darko find mins for everyone on the team...

Quickley
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Yak

Dick
Walter
Ochai
CMB
Mogbo
Shead

Battle

I mean 11 player rotation is not ideal....Some of these guys will lose out on alot of mins this year....I think a move to turn some of these guys into 1 upgraded player needs to happen....

Injuries are bound to happen. I can understand a consolidation trade but it's not necessary. And during the regular season depth is what matters, we may suffer when / if it comes to playoffs.



I think we are going to see a consolidation trade as well. We've been rumoured way too many times in potential trades.

Bobby's presser alluded to them actively listening to offers on the 9th pick.

I'd have to think RJ is going to be traded, then one of GD/JW/OA in order to upgrade the SG position.
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Post#1164 » by Boardbreaker » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:43 pm

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Post#1165 » by SpezNc » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:45 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...


Yeah but the vibes were so off that year.

It’s clear that Siakam and O.G knew they were gone.

I think it impacted the overall performance.

Also the depth was so-so

Now we have Walter, Gradey , Mogbo, Shead, Battle as young depth . Now we can add CMB .
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Post#1166 » by PushDaRock » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:46 pm

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This isn't a fit question to them. We're on year 3 of Jak at C, who was a terrible fit next to Siakam and Barnes when they traded for him. They then quadrupled down and added Dennis as a starter. After the trades, it still left us with RJ starting (who's 3pt shooting did end up improving).

It's easier to work around multiple poor shooters, while it's much harder adding a non-shooter like Jak. But there has been no hurry to move Jak for a proper fit.

Every year management and coaching has been completely fine with playing 2+ non-spacers in the starting lineup. They're comfortable with this style of play in the modern era. I'm comfortable with a couple mobile poor shooters, too, but a non-shooting big is a no-go. But not to them.

If any player is moved it won't be because of this.


That's because replacing Jak is difficult. How long is the list of C's with above average D and can shoot? How many of them are available?


They could play small like they were doing with Siakam before Jak. Both CMB and Barnes are much bigger and sturdier C's than the Siakam was.

They could just live with poorer defense but better spacing offense when KO was here, and have Jak juice the bench minutes.

They could have spent more to trade for Turner instead of Jak back then if they really felt that size was a crucial need.

There are tons of things they could have done and could still do.

They choose to play Jak (and re-sign Jak) and other poor fits in non-spacing lineups because they believe in it. Or they don't believe the downsides matter.

Granted the only experience they've seen of this failing is getting embarrassed by the Bulls in a play-in game once. They're not getting the cold reality of the Allen/Mobley & Mitchell/Garland questions hitting them over and over again in two playoff runs.


Well, at least for that Bulls game we got beat by a little girl. That had nothing to do with lineups.
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Post#1167 » by mihaic » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:48 pm

Prestige wrote:We’ve been out of the playoff for years but haven’t managed to get any franchise level player or close to it. It’s been a pretty bad run.

Brandon Ingram?
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Post#1168 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:50 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:
navyblue wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:Gotta think a trade involving multiple players is coming this offseason....How will Darko find mins for everyone on the team...

Quickley
Barrett
Ingram
Barnes
Yak

Dick
Walter
Ochai
CMB
Mogbo
Shead

Battle

I mean 11 player rotation is not ideal....Some of these guys will lose out on alot of mins this year....I think a move to turn some of these guys into 1 upgraded player needs to happen....

Injuries are bound to happen. I can understand a consolidation trade but it's not necessary.


Players will end up being unhappy if they think they deserve mins....I mean yeah injuries do happen but for winning purposes as well it would be wise to move a few of these guys for 1 solid winning player upgrade....Maybe RJ + 1 or 2 guys on the bench for a legit upgrade either in the starting lineup or another player who will play 25 mins off the bench....RJ/Walter/Dick/Ochai logjam is a problem....


I think they stick with the young depth and really evaluate the season with everyone healthy. The only guy I see them moving is RJ, maybe for a swap for another player. But Dick, JKW, Mogbo, Battle, Ochai, CMB, Shead is a fun bench. Maybe they can take that leap of being bench mob 2.0 and win their minutes.
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Post#1169 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:52 pm

mihaic wrote:
Prestige wrote:We’ve been out of the playoff for years but haven’t managed to get any franchise level player or close to it. It’s been a pretty bad run.

Brandon Ingram?


Ingram has not lead a team past the first round of the playoffs....Made it two times in his career....

His talent is obvious but he is injury prone and has not shown he can be a winner in the NBA yet....This will be his first year of proving it...We will see what happens...But to me Ingram is the guy you add with a Giannis if you want to actually be successfull...
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Post#1170 » by right between the eyes » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:53 pm

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Read on Twitter

Guess that confirms the no rebrand lol



I really can't comprehend this team when it comes to the jerseys. All I see are comments from fans about wanting purple jerseys and now they don't like the current ones.


The Raps social media also hints that the purple court and colour in general is coming next year however it's now announced that it's not happening. They could make a ton of cash with a purple rebrand but are almost thumbing it in our face. Someone high up just have an obsession with chevrons or something. Our current red jersey might be my least favourite jersey of all time, yet it's always the one new players wear at press conferences. Even our players like Scottie have ranked all of our jerseys and the current ones are never mentioned.

Why can't they listen to the fans? It makes zero sense.
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Post#1171 » by StopitLeo » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:54 pm

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Prestige wrote:We’ve been out of the playoff for years but haven’t managed to get any franchise level player or close to it. It’s been a pretty bad run.


There are teams that have spent half a decade or more in the lottery asking the same question.

Not easy to find franchise level players, even at the top of drafts.


Even when you find a franchise level player it doesn't always translate into success. The clearest example are the Sixers.

During "The Process" there was a 4 year period where the Sixers had two #1 overall picks and two #3 picks. Two of those guys made multiple All-NBA and All-Defense teams, plus Embiid was scoring champ twice and won an MVP.

It's been 8 years since Embiid's rookie season and the deepest Philly has gone in the playoffs is the Conference Semis—that's the 2nd round!
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Post#1172 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:54 pm

from pods im listening to, OKC was all over CMB and would have been their pick at 15, took their next guy in Sorber. High stock guys. CMB more versatility which is why he ranked higher.
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Post#1173 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:56 pm

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navyblue wrote:Injuries are bound to happen. I can understand a consolidation trade but it's not necessary.


Players will end up being unhappy if they think they deserve mins....I mean yeah injuries do happen but for winning purposes as well it would be wise to move a few of these guys for 1 solid winning player upgrade....Maybe RJ + 1 or 2 guys on the bench for a legit upgrade either in the starting lineup or another player who will play 25 mins off the bench....RJ/Walter/Dick/Ochai logjam is a problem....


I think they stick with the young depth and really evaluate the season with everyone healthy. The only guy I see them moving is RJ, maybe for a swap for another player. But Dick, JKW, Mogbo, Battle, Ochai, CMB, Shead is a fun bench. Maybe they can take that leap of being bench mob 2.0 and win their minutes.


Yeah i like the players on the team...Thing is you just named 7 players as a "Bench" ...NBA rotations are usually 8 deep maybe 9 if you really stretch it out....Without injuries alot of these guys mins will be cut during the season....Thats why in my mind if you can trade RJ + One or two of the young guys you bring in a Playoff proven player who can help us win....Now your rotation starts to look more playoff ready....Otherwise you are just wasting away these guys on the end of the bench without any real gain....Come playoff time the rotation gets even smaller...
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Post#1174 » by Scase » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:56 pm

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Read on Twitter

Guess that confirms no rebrand lol

God damn the NBA is cheap, not even stitched :lol:
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Post#1175 » by OakleyDokely » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:57 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:from pods im listening to, OKC was all over CMB and would have been their pick at 15, took their next guy in Sorber. High stock guys. CMB more versatility which is why he ranked higher.


OKC and TOR are always after the same guys.
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Post#1176 » by tsherkin » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:58 pm

mihaic wrote:
Prestige wrote:We’ve been out of the playoff for years but haven’t managed to get any franchise level player or close to it. It’s been a pretty bad run.

Brandon Ingram?


Good player when healthy; far from franchise-level, though.
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Post#1177 » by Brinbe » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:00 pm

nivisi9 wrote:Does anyone by chance have the link to that one draft database that had CMB ranked 3# overall?

Seemed analytics leaning with BPM etc. I think someone posted yesterday I cant find the link thanks!

https://databallr.com/nbadraft/bigboard
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Post#1178 » by mihaic » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:01 pm

tsherkin wrote:
mihaic wrote:
Prestige wrote:We’ve been out of the playoff for years but haven’t managed to get any franchise level player or close to it. It’s been a pretty bad run.

Brandon Ingram?


Good player when healthy; far from franchise-level, though.


He said close to it.
Imo, when healthy, he's close to it
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Post#1179 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:01 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:from pods im listening to, OKC was all over CMB and would have been their pick at 15, took their next guy in Sorber. High stock guys. CMB more versatility which is why he ranked higher.


OKC and TOR are always after the same guys.


Gilgeous-Alexander
Williams
Dort
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Holmgren

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Post#1180 » by earthtone » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:01 pm

right between the eyes wrote:
Boardbreaker wrote:
And1Skip wrote:
Read on Twitter

Guess that confirms the no rebrand lol



I really can't comprehend this team when it comes to the jerseys. All I see are comments from fans about wanting purple jerseys and now they don't like the current ones.


The Raps social media also hints that the purple court and colour in general is coming next year however it's now announced that it's not happening. They could make a ton of cash with a purple rebrand but are almost thumbing it in our face. Someone high up just have an obsession with chevrons or something. Our current red jersey might be my least favourite jersey of all time, yet it's always the one new players wear at press conferences. Even our players like Scottie have ranked all of our jerseys and the current ones are never mentioned.

Why can't they listen to the fans? It makes zero sense.

They still haven't announced their jersey lineup for next season, a rebrand is almost certainly coming

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