#13 for Fernandez+#22 (Deal dead, pg. 26)

[ATLTimekeeper]

What about 13/Evans for 22/Rudy/Przybilla? THAT would be a nice variation.

Yes, yes it would. Always liked the grittiness of Przybilla. He'll step in nicely at the 5.

He broke his knee twice last year. He's done.

[Strategist1]

Rudy at best... is a rotational bench player. He may be ok as a player. But.. I just don't see why/how this would benefit the Raps. I rather have DD/Weems and sign/trade a solid Veteran to teach DD/Weems and be an example for them. Besides, Beli is there as last resort ... Even Beli is ok as an occasional sparkplug. The need is for a veteran wing to fill in for Wright (if he leaves)... and a backup SF.

Rudy on this team, isn't really a good fit for the Raps long term. IMO its best to develop DD/Weems and get a vet. And draft someone with solid potential at 13.

If you're gonna trade the 13th pick in a package...Raps better get a solid starter out of it..or don't do it at all.

[Komodo]

Rudy's not bad, I think he's a solid roleplayer, but I'm not a fan of this deal. He's a bench player on a winning team. And how many jump-shooters do need? And moving down 9 spots? For the best talent available? Nope, not buying it. I'd pass.

[dagger]

Seems a lot of teams want Rudy

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/06/23/fern ... de.rumors/

I'm down with this trade.

[ATLTimekeeper]

He's also someone we could have easily had in his draft year. We went hard after Beli and had a Hump for Miami pick deal set up before GS scooped him. Portland drafted after the Miami pick. I remember I think Doug suggesting the Raptors said Rudy was too frail to survive in the NBA. Now they like him? WTF is going on?

This doesn't sound like a plan of action, it just sounds like jumping at something to make some noise.

[dagger]

No thanks to this deal as it is, our board is full of rumours and the vast majority of them will be just rumours in the end

Ya most rumors don't pan out but this one has been picked up by a lot of media, with some specifics from teams after Rudy. Chicago offered #17 for him. NYK wants him. All have been told no.

[C_Money]

I knew we were getting this f***in guy as soon as he asked for the trade.

[bill russell]

if this is the deal, and remember it's just a rumour, we're talking about getting a guy who was a solid contributor on a fifty-win team for dropping down in the draft. every gm i've seen interviewed says that between picks 10 and 25 it's a crapshoot this year. if we can get what we want later in the draft, i think it's a very good move. we get an asset with a reasonably good contract.
as well, this is probably one of many moves. we may be moving up in the draft, we may be packaging up rudy or the 22 pick -- a lot of other things could happen. but on its own, not a bad move at all.

[I.D.]

It's not necessarily a bad move, depending on the circumstances of the team. My main question with this kind of move is what direction are we going in? Are we planning to try and compete post Bosh? Or are we building around a budding young core?

Stop gapping with Rudy is a bit lateral, a bit redundant it seems. He doesn't bring anything especially dynamic that we are sorely missing, but he is solid enough that he upgrades our roster. He probably doesn't address any of our most pressing needs, and he isn't a huge compliment to any of our "stand out" talent. So while he might be better than Belinelli, for example, that doesn't translate into much meaningful improvement to our team. Essentially we don't have the kind of roster that makes adding a more finished product in Rudy worth it.

The other side of this is that perhaps we don't acheive any of the above with the 13th pick anyway. So why not add some talent and get roughly equal impact/potential at 22? I'm guessing that then frees up some assets for future moves. Moving Belinelli (not sure that amounts to much) perhaps Sonny and makes it that much easier to let go Wright (who played significant minutes for us last year). Again, that only holds meaning in the event we are trying to compete at least make the playoffs and I think that's unlikely.

I'm guessing some of the other rumored moves around the league could change our outlook on #13 and if all of a sudden someone we really want is not there, then this kind of move doesn't hurt, per say...

[totallyr]

No thanks to this deal as it is, our board is full of rumours and the vast majority of them will be just rumours in the end

[kelso]

Rudy Fernandez is a plug. There is no way this deal goes down, or BC's head is on a stick in front of the ACC. Fernandez fills absolutely no need on this team- I call bull**** on this rumor.

[KenPiffilousIII]

i can read the raptors forums and raptors tv

"rudy was misused in portland and he will be a great fit in toronto"

they said the same **** about belli and we know how great that worked out

[KrazyP]

I am suprised at the reaction to the suggested trade. Rudy Fernandez for the difference between the 13th and 22th pick is actually good value. The draft is always a total crap shoot after the top 6-7 picks..

These are the last 10 players drafted 13th overall in the NBA Draft.

Julian Wright
Thabo Sefolasha
Brandon Rush
Tyler Hansborough
Courntey Alexander
Marcus Haislip
Marcus Banks
Sebastian Telfair
Sean May
Richard Jefferson

Of the bunch, Jefferson is the only one that has had a career thats noteworthy.....most of them are scrubs. Thats 1 impact player out of 10 = 10% chance of drafting anything special. Fans get to enamoured with the unknown this time of the year.

[pharring]

I'd be really disappointed if this trade went down.
Swearing randomly at strangers disappointed.

[Shabron]

if they do trade for him, can he be traded again instantly? how long must the raptors wait?

[Realist]

There are obviously more moves to be made if this goes down. So cool it people, jeez.

[Deadpool_X]

If you can get Paul George you don't make this move imo. Not that Rudy isn't a better player overall, I would just rather have the player at a position that we need SF with size. That is a HUGE difference.

I would still consider this move if Hedo was gone though. Rudy is a great talent that can actually dribble and create his own shot. We know how many people wanted that on this team for a while.

[Indeed]

It's not necessarily a bad move, depending on the circumstances of the team. My main question with this kind of move is what direction are we going in? Are we planning to try and compete post Bosh? Or are we building around a budding young core?

Stop gapping with Rudy is a bit lateral, a bit redundant it seems. He doesn't bring anything especially dynamic that we are sorely missing, but he is solid enough that he upgrades our roster. He probably doesn't address any of our most pressing needs, and he isn't a huge compliment to any of our "stand out" talent. So while he might be better than Belinelli, for example, that doesn't translate into much meaningful improvement to our team. Essentially we don't have the kind of roster that makes adding a more finished product in Rudy worth it.

The other side of this is that perhaps we don't acheive any of the above with the 13th pick anyway. So why not add some talent and get roughly equal impact/potential at 22? I'm guessing that then frees up some assets for future moves. Moving Belinelli (not sure that amounts to much) perhaps Sonny and makes it that much easier to let go Wright (who played significant minutes for us last year). Again, that only holds meaning in the event we are trying to compete at least make the playoffs and I think that's unlikely.

I'm guessing some of the other rumored moves around the league could change our outlook on #13 and if all of a sudden someone we really want is not there, then this kind of move doesn't hurt, per say...

Most likely Dosey instead of Belinelli or Weems.
If we are drafting Ebanks at #22, then it makes sense to dump Dosey along, and it is a non-guarantee contract, so Portland can keep him or dump him any time they want.

[springbreak]

I'd do that - really, not much difference in this years draft between picks 13-22 in terms of quality, and I like Rudy a lot.

[pharring]

There are obviously more moves to be made if this goes down. So cool it people, jeez.

If it's going to be more of the same lateral moves with no forward momentum... adding random Euro pieces to a haphazard roster that has no heart, count me out.