Official thread for hypothetical FA and D-league ideas

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #121 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:22 pm

We all know the Raptors are going after Tyson Chandler. We potentially have ~15 mil. cap space, give or take...it's probably going to take ALL of that to get Chandler here...well, at least I think it will.

If not Chandler, then I'd guess we use that cap space to trade for a C (like Brendan Haywood, for example).

If we get Chandler...man our defence is going to improve drastically. I'd think that we'd win more games because of that.

Orsk · Post #122 » by **Orsk** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:27 pm

I think Chandler is the most likely choice. DC has nothing but great things to say about him and vice versa, plus we know BC wants him cos he tried to trade for him last year. I think he is a perfect fit here and a long contract is just enough to mentor JV (who is similar to a young Chandler) and man the starter spot until he is ready to take over.

Oh, and he has had his practice next to Dirk, now for the real challenge lol! I'd be pumped if we land Chandler..

bakafool · Post #123 » by **bakafool** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:32 pm

Chandler will not leave Dallas. Whoever thinks he will is bonkers. And Dallas will do everything in their power to keep him.

Orsk · Post #124 » by **Orsk** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:34 pm

bakafool wrote:Chandler will not leave Dallas. Whoever thinks he will is bonkers. And Dallas will do everything in their power to keep him.

Dallas has a lot of money tied up at the moment and Chandler is going to look to get paid. I agree that it's not likely, but I think there is a possibility that they simply can not afford to retain him with the looming CBA changes. If there is movement I think we are in a good position to nab him.

bigdirty · Post #125 » by **bigdirty** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:36 pm

Do people want us to get Chandler? That would kill our tanking for next year, especially if Casey gets Andrea, Demar and them to play some better D.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #126 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:37 pm

bakafool wrote:Chandler will not leave Dallas. Whoever thinks he will is bonkers. And Dallas will do everything in their power to keep him.

Absolutely. But, the Raptors will try to pry him away. He's an unrestricted FA, and Casey was talking last night about being 'recruiters'...we'll come knocking.

I think we'll get one of the Dallas Cs though (Haywood is more likely imo).

Orsk · Post #127 » by **Orsk** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:40 pm

bigdirty wrote:Do people want us to get Chandler? That would kill our tanking for next year, especially if Casey gets Andrea, Demar and them to play some better D.

Dude the tanking is dead, get over it. DC and BC both have said they are going to work hard to add peices through trade and FA this summer so we can improve this season. We might not be good this season but it wont be from lack of trying to make us so by BC

Basketball_Jones · Post #128 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:43 pm

I'd rather just keep going with the Bargnani experiment, feed him 25 shots a game, play him over 40 minutes a night at center, and get another top 5 pick.

trick · Post #129 » by **trick** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:43 pm

Orsk wrote:
Dude the tanking is dead, get over it. DC and BC both have said they are going to work hard to add peices through trade and FA this summer so we can improve this season. We might not be good this season but it wont be from lack of trying to make us so by BC

Stop trying to spin words.
If a good FA is available, why wouldn't you try to acquire them?

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #130 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:47 pm

With the money we save from our pick not comming over my bet is on Jordan, they can over load the first year and make it very hard for the Clips to match. Jordan is young enough that it would be like getting two top five draft picks this year.

They would then have assets to move, that teams would want.

Shady91 · Post #131 » by **Shady91** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:48 pm

bigdirty wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:Anyone here hoping we go after Wilson Chandler to fill that massive gap at the 3 spot?

Sounds like a good stopgap move that could help us go for 9th.

What the hell is your problem?

Orsk · Post #132 » by **Orsk** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:49 pm

trick wrote:
Orsk wrote:
Dude the tanking is dead, get over it. DC and BC both have said they are going to work hard to add peices through trade and FA this summer so we can improve this season. We might not be good this season but it wont be from lack of trying to make us so by BC

Stop trying to spin words.
If a good FA is available, why wouldn't you try to acquire them?

Lol, Im not saying we shouldnt!! I'm just pointing out there is no way we will be intentionally tanking this year. I think we should try very hard to get a C this year and improve, I think the depth of talent in the draft next year means we shouldnt be trying to have another bad season just to land a top pick, because it is likely we can still grab a franchise player later on in the lottery.

Im not spinning any words, I'm simply pointing out what has been said to the media, so people should just stop with the tank crap because it's not happening.

Basketball_Jones · Post #133 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:49 pm

Not sure they wouldn't match Jordan though, but we'll see. Depends on how much is thrown at him. I think having two starting caliber centers beside Blake Griffin is great. They'd certainly want to follow the Dallas model with the two centers beside Dirk.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #134 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:53 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:Not sure they wouldn't match Jordan though, but we'll see. Depends on how much is thrown at him. I think having two starting caliber centers beside Blake Griffin is great. They'd certainly want to follow the Dallas model with the two centers beside Dirk.

look at all the names that have let walk over the past 20 years or so.

eitanr · Post #135 » by **eitanr** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:02 pm

I wouldn't want to see the team over pay for a center via free agency. I think nabbing D'Andre Jordan or even Dalembert would mean heavily over-paying. If Jordan turns out to fade after his first couple of years (which could happen) and likewise with Dally (which he has done in the past) then the team is left with another albatross contract.

To me the key words are either 'market' or 'develop'.

The idea is you want to maybe use Ed Davis (has more value to teams) to land a center on a good deal etc.

I feel a deal that works is Ed Davis and TPE for Gortat AND Warrick.

Now landing Warrick could suck, maybe he can backup at the 3...but his contract isn't bad. Meanwhile yo get Gortat who is the type of 5 you want if you are Toronto.

Rapsfan07 · Post #136 » by **Rapsfan07** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:04 pm

No.

Chandler - not leaving a team where he just won his first ring. I'm sure he'd rather take a pay cut.
Nene - not coming here unless overpaid and will be too older by the time we're ready to contend.
Gasol - just had a deep playoff run. Why come to a lottery team? Memphis says they'll spend.
Jordan - why leave your best friends and future HOF to come to T.O? LA has money to keep him.
Dalembert - likeliest option

Dally is a Canadian and a vet. His experience will be useful to mentor Val when he comes over. Secondly, he's the only one who we'll be able to offer a decent, movable contract to and would be the easiest to lure here since he's already a citizen. All the aforementioned C's are in much better situations than us except arguably Dalembert. I really believe this is the guy they're referring to and the beautiful thing about that is whether or not Barbosa picks up his option, we could sign him to a fair deal. 4years/28-30mil (4th year -Team Option) is a very fair deal for both team. I'd look for Amir to be moved in a S&T to the Kings if there is one.

garbagnani · Post #137 » by **garbagnani** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:05 pm

the problem with the raps board is that its the best board on realgm. hence haters and trolls naturally gravitate to our board where they know they will get a response.

Basketball_Jones · Post #138 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:05 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:Not sure they wouldn't match Jordan though, but we'll see. Depends on how much is thrown at him. I think having two starting caliber centers beside Blake Griffin is great. They'd certainly want to follow the Dallas model with the two centers beside Dirk.

look at all the names that have let walk over the past 20 years or so.

I get the feeling with Griffin they'll do whatever it takes now.

eitanr · Post #139 » by **eitanr** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:10 pm

Giving Dally even a 4 yr deal is quite risky. He is known to play far better on the last year of his contract and may end up being an albatross contract.

I think you havr to look via trade and use Ed Davis in a deal to get a legit center...I still like Gortat.
If not him, what other teams would give Toronto a legit center for Davis and a TPE?

Andres Biedrins and something from GSW? (we could do better)
Brook Lopez and Travis Outlaw from NJ (I could see the Nets perhaps wanting to deal Lopez if someone is willing to take on Outlaw and thus giving them cash to perhaps make a move for Howard at the end of the season...still Outlaw's deal is horrid, so I would say no here)

And that's really it.....

So the two most viable options is maybe either sign Dally or deal Davis in hopes for a 5, with Gortat being the best bet IMHO

Brinbe · Post #140 » by **Brinbe** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:12 pm

I wouldn't be opposed to Sammy at all. He's probably the most realistic option out there. We just better hope it's at a reasonable cost/length.