Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

[fredericklove]

Hmm, personally I don't like that comparison much DH. I just don't think they're very similar aside from some very surface-level comparisons.

Lamb is a much more dynamic offensive player as a sophomore than Rush was at the same age (and Rush posted a 17.7 PER in his second year to Lamb's 21.9.)

Lamb is much better at handling the ball. Rush was stronger and bigger -- I can't imagine Lamb ever making a living strictly as a defensive roleplayer, for instance.

I just don't see them as being all that similar, personally. Most people who want Lamb look at the athleticism and skill level and think he's capable of doing more than he's shown. I think Brandon Rush entered the league more or less a finished product.

I agree too. When I watch Rush play in the NBA, he's very limited with his handle. He's not able to put the ball on the floor the way Lamb can. And Rush isn't mobile enough to come off screen to catch and shoot, ...its just a different style brand of basketball. Lamb's much quicker with the ball, and has a quicker release on his shooting form. Lamb simply has more offensive repertoire than Rush.

Of all things Helix tried to compare, in terms of similiar frame, athleticism/not 1 and done(what?), and mid-range/deep, it doesn't mean their style of game is same, it's a false logic, its like trying to find similar pattern of both players, then uses that pattern to make legitimate claims that they will end up being the same in the NBA. It doesn't make sense that way.

[amjonar]

i hope we land this guy

[Double Helix]

Appreciate the level-headed responses. Was actually hoping they'd talk me back into liking Lamb before the mental image of Rush and all the surface-level similarities started circling around in my mind.

[MEDIC]

brandon rush and jeremy lamb are nowhere near alike. only comparable attribute is their skin complexion, and even that is off by a few pigments.

lamb is much more fluid with the ball, more skilled, and has a release on his jump shot that will not limit him to being just a spot-up shooter. his wirey, athletic frame is much more translatable at the pro level.

lamb can be a kerry kittles type SG/F...overall package is pretty comparable to paul george imo, albeit a few inches shorter. rush on the other hand had bench fodder written all over him, or else he woulda gone much higher in his draft than 13 - which is still a bit of a reach in hindsight.

Agree with this.

If Lamb had Kittles aggressiveness, he'd be a better prospect than Kittles was.

[TheToothFairy]

Lamb reminds me of Batum

[ATLTimekeeper]

I think he's the guy. Great package of upside, skill and production. He could be more assertive, but that's nitpicking and shouldn't be the difference between him being a bust or not. Paul George wasn't assertive enough, James Harden wasn't assertive enough, Rudy Gay wasn't assertive enough... these guys all turned out to be better than their draft slot.

[cdel00]

Lamb reminds me of the SG version Tayshaun Prince.

[BillyGM]

reminds trajan langdon 2.0

[kingz32]

If he does drop in the draft, I'd expect a team like the Bulls to trade up to get him as they need a jump shooting SG for the future and Rip Hamilton isn't a long term solution. I don't see a better fit than that for him. My prediction is that he will be a Chicago Bull on draft day somehow, it will sort of be like the Kawhi Leonard deal for George Hill that the Spurs did. You heard it here first!

[fredericklove]

If he does drop in the draft, I'd expect a team like the Bulls to trade up to get him as they need a jump shooting SG for the future and Rip Hamilton isn't a long term solution. I don't see a better fit than that for him. My prediction is that he will be a Chicago Bull on draft day somehow, it will sort of be like the Kawhi Leonard deal for George Hill that the Spurs did. You heard it here first!

A team who gets Lamb in 8-12 range is considered a steal for them, why would they trade him away? Think about it logically please.

[Double Helix]

I feel like I'm settling into the idea of being very happy with either Lamb or Sullinger now as realistic 8 spot targets.

I want it to be Lamb for the simple fact that there's less of a glut at SG and because even if DD takes a massive step forward in year 4 he could potentially play SF in a Richard Jefferson type of role. How awesome would it be IF, and it's a big if, Lamb and DD worked well together? Sure it's hopeful thinking but it's fun, especially when you imagine a talent like JJ coming in off the bench too.

If Lamb and DD could co-exist and guard the vast majority of 2/3 combos in the league it would be fun to watch. I've got my fingers crossed that BC and Casey see it the same way and that Lamb impresses becoming both the BPA AND one of the two missing pieces to the team's long term success (the other being either freeing Bayless permanently or signing a FA PG better than him so that he can take on the Lou Williams role as our 6th man.

[S.W.A.N]

If he does drop in the draft, I'd expect a team like the Bulls to trade up to get him as they need a jump shooting SG for the future and Rip Hamilton isn't a long term solution. I don't see a better fit than that for him. My prediction is that he will be a Chicago Bull on draft day somehow, it will sort of be like the Kawhi Leonard deal for George Hill that the Spurs did. You heard it here first!

A team who gets Lamb in 8-12 range is considered a steal for them, why would they trade him away? Think about it logically please.

Get over your self. Chicago has good young assets to trade if they really wanted to get lamb. If a team needed a big Asik or Gibson could fetch a solid value.

[kingz32]

If he does drop in the draft, I'd expect a team like the Bulls to trade up to get him as they need a jump shooting SG for the future and Rip Hamilton isn't a long term solution. I don't see a better fit than that for him. My prediction is that he will be a Chicago Bull on draft day somehow, it will sort of be like the Kawhi Leonard deal for George Hill that the Spurs did. You heard it here first!

A team who gets Lamb in 8-12 range is considered a steal for them, why would they trade him away? Think about it logically please.

A steal? lmaooo I know you're a fan of his and all but this guy is a one dimensional jump shooter who doesn't seem to have a killer instinct or zeal for leadership and accountability. He's not even a projected lottery pick in most industry mock drafts. I'm not saying that he won't be taken in the lottery due to a team taking a chance on him, but please don't suggest that Jeremy Lamb is something that he is not. Now that the year has passed and we can reflect on his game, we can see the chinks in his armor. The only teams i the lottery that I can see have a need for him are GS, PHX, HOU (and maybe Toronto if BC is stupid enough).

[Undefeated]

Lol Jeremy Lamb isn't one dimensional.

[Dr Positivity]

I'm with you DH that Lamb and Sullinger are good picks for us.

People are blowing up the difference between Beal/MKG/Robinson and these guys way too much. The reason Beal, MKG and Robinson have separated themselves on most lists is they have less holes to pick at rather than more strengths. At the end of the day I don't think it's a big deal. I have Lamb as more talented than those 3 players.

[kingz32]

If he does drop in the draft, I'd expect a team like the Bulls to trade up to get him as they need a jump shooting SG for the future and Rip Hamilton isn't a long term solution. I don't see a better fit than that for him. My prediction is that he will be a Chicago Bull on draft day somehow, it will sort of be like the Kawhi Leonard deal for George Hill that the Spurs did. You heard it here first!

A team who gets Lamb in 8-12 range is considered a steal for them, why would they trade him away? Think about it logically please.

Get over your self. Chicago has good young assets to trade if they really wanted to get lamb. If a team needed a big Asik or Gibson could fetch a solid value.

This.

Plus, GS publicly came out at the end of the season and said they were looking to get bigger in the middle. If Gibson & Korver + 30th overall pick were packaged for that #7 Pick I think that would be enough. They'd have the option of starting Lamb next year with a veteran Rip Hamilton off the bench for him or they could do it the other way and make Lamb come off the bench. It wouldn't be hard for them to sign another veteran big in free agency at the veteran minimum to come in and replace Gibson.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

I'd be perfectly fine with Jeremy Lamb as well. I like his skill-level.

[kingz32]

Lol Jeremy Lamb isn't one dimensional.

All I can do is give him props for rebounding the way he does at his size. However, he doesn't make anyon eon his team better by putting them in a position to score off of his own creation. Which tells me that he is a primarily off ball/off screen player who thrives in his ability to quickly move off screens and shoot but he doesn't have the vision to see what's going on around him and take advantage of other things he sees on the floor and help out his team through assists.

[fredericklove]

If he does drop in the draft, I'd expect a team like the Bulls to trade up to get him as they need a jump shooting SG for the future and Rip Hamilton isn't a long term solution. I don't see a better fit than that for him. My prediction is that he will be a Chicago Bull on draft day somehow, it will sort of be like the Kawhi Leonard deal for George Hill that the Spurs did. You heard it here first!

A team who gets Lamb in 8-12 range is considered a steal for them, why would they trade him away? Think about it logically please.

Get over your self. Chicago has good young assets to trade if they really wanted to get lamb. If a team needed a big Asik or Gibson could fetch a solid value.

Get over yourself, why would a team want role players like Asik or Gibson when they can develop Lamb whom has a shot at being a 1st or 2nd go-to-option. Trade role players as assets for a lottery pick, what a joke.

[fredericklove]

A steal? lmaooo I know you're a fan of his and all but this guy is a one dimensional jump shooter who doesn't seem to have a killer instinct or zeal for leadership and accountability. He's not even a projected lottery pick in most industry mock drafts. I'm not saying that he won't be taken in the lottery due to a team taking a chance on him, but please don't suggest that Jeremy Lamb is something that he is not. Now that the year has passed and we can reflect on his game, we can see the chinks in his armor. The only teams i the lottery that I can see have a need for him are GS, PHX, HOU (and maybe Toronto if BC is stupid enough).

You do know the order of the prospects in the mock draft is just temporary right? Every year they change their mock drafts on draft combine/workout, you do know that right?

And you refer to me saying that he's something he's not? Tell me what I said that makes you think I said something he's not? All I ever said was he can be a good scorer in the league due to his off-ball/off screen style of play, so that's me saying something he's not when you just said it to Undefeated right now that he's primarily off-ball/off the screen type of scorer, thats exactly what I said b4. So wth are you even trying to say?

And you're saying he's not making his team better and not helping out his team through assists, right? When you have two ball-hogging guards on the team at the same time on the floor, and the only time you're going to get touches is the time where the team wants you to score, rather than being the playmaker guy, so how exactly you get a chance to make anyone better if you don't even get to have the ball in your hand?