Terrence Ross is unbelievable

[dballislife]

ross will be key come playoff time, he needs to hit those shots

[BloodyNose]

ross will be key come playoff time, he needs to hit those shots

i want indiana man, ross can put the lock on paul george

[shokase]

lol at 41 and1s for such a dramatic and crazy post. wish him the best but i doubt he will even be top 5 sg

[artsncrafts]

Ross is sahweeeet

[akiman911]

Raptor fans need to learn to not jump to conclusions. Ross has great potential- arguably greater than Demar's, much better shooting touch and defense. Unfortunately we are currently starting two shooting guards, resulting in Ross guarding wings too big for him ( he is quite lighter it seems and I think around same height as DD). Couple this with the fact that Derozan is now a "Superstar" to casual fans , don't forget a fanbase that jumped on him from day one- You can bet TRoss' Development will be hampered to some extent.

Unfortunately we cannot give Ross the same opportunity DD had to develop, so hopefully they can co-exist in some manner that will be mutually beneficial for them and for this team. More importantly, let's not let our less-skilled versions of Vince and Tmac seperate, resulting in millions of what-if's, and countless brain cells being obliterated due to substance abuse from our dear fanbase.

[chuckdevlin]

Ross is already a huge part of our team. After he learns how to make his game more consistent, any other improvement he makes will be a plus.

After getting a more consistent 3 point shot, all he needs is to handle the ball more, crash the boards, and attack the rim. He has good flashes in all of these areas, so I am not too worried. His two-man game with JV is nice, he gets crazy tip-ins sometimes, and his floater into the lane is very smooth and you know that its going in. He just needs to learn how to handle and initiate contact.

The sky is the limit for him, if he was 2 years younger he'd be a blue-chip prospect.

[BloodyNose]

Raptor fans need to learn to not jump to conclusions. Ross has great potential- arguably greater than Demar's, much better shooting touch and defense. Unfortunately we are currently starting two shooting guards, resulting in Ross guarding wings too big for him ( he is quite lighter it seems and I think around same height as DD). Couple this with the fact that Derozan is now a "Superstar" to casual fans , don't forget a fanbase that jumped on him from day one- You can bet TRoss' Development will be hampered to some extent.

Unfortunately we cannot give Ross the same opportunity DD had to develop, so hopefully they can co-exist in some manner that will be mutually beneficial for them and for this team. More importantly, let's not let our less-skilled versions of Vince and Tmac seperate, resulting in millions of what-if's, and countless brain cells being obliterated due to substance abuse from our dear fanbase.

because derozan and ross are having a hard time co-existing right now? I doubt he will ever get in a mix up with derozan role wise. The guy takes smart shots

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Demar was 2 years younger than Ross is now when he posted those stats.

Age 22:
PER: 12.1 TS: .554 eFG: .532 FTR: .128 ORB: 2.3 DRB: 11.7 AST: 5.6 STL: 1.5 BLK: 1.1 USG: 18.6 WS: 3.1
PER: 12.8 TS: .503 eFG: .435 FTR: .367 ORB: 2.1 DRB: 9.0 AST: 10.8 STL: 1.2 BLK: 0.6 USG: 25.0 WS: 2.5

This is why Demar will consistently score over 20 points in his prime. Ross will never approach that. Guys who score 15 points a game as SG will never be considered the best SG in the league.

Look Ross can be a good SG and a great contributor to a team. But the OP is saying he is going to be the best. Go and see who are considered the best SG in the league. Wade and Harden - both live at the line. Demar is getting there at over a 40% clip now.

Demar has a chance to be the best SG in the league.

Ross has a chance to be the best 3 and D guy in the league or the best 6th man in the league. That is still a really good player.

u might wanna take a look at the usage rate too though.
Ross smaller FTR is more a result of lack of opportunity than lack of skill. And given his efficiency from the 3 point line, even going to the line 4-5 times a game would push his efficiency to another level. And he's definitely capable of that.

[Sheldon Cooper]

Demar was 2 years younger than Ross is now when he posted those stats.

Age 22:
PER: 12.1 TS: .554 eFG: .532 FTR: .128 ORB: 2.3 DRB: 11.7 AST: 5.6 STL: 1.5 BLK: 1.1 USG: 18.6 WS: 3.1
PER: 12.8 TS: .503 eFG: .435 FTR: .367 ORB: 2.1 DRB: 9.0 AST: 10.8 STL: 1.2 BLK: 0.6 USG: 25.0 WS: 2.5

This is why Demar will consistently score over 20 points in his prime. Ross will never approach that. Guys who score 15 points a game as SG will never be considered the best SG in the league.

Look Ross can be a good SG and a great contributor to a team. But the OP is saying he is going to be the best. Go and see who are considered the best SG in the league. Wade and Harden - both live at the line. Demar is getting there at over a 40% clip now.

Demar has a chance to be the best SG in the league.

Ross has a chance to be the best 3 and D guy in the league or the best 6th man in the league. That is still a really good player.

Ross has a far lower usage rate than DeMar did at his age but is still very close in terms of PER. His eFG percentage crushes DeMar's by a wide margin - it literally translates to about +0.25 points per possession used. Assuming both of them take 15 shots per game, Ross will average roughly 3.75 more points per game. He is also significantly better defensively than DeMar. They are both very good in their own way but I think Ross has a higher ceiling than DeMar. Hopefully we have both of them for a very long time as they (along with Amir) are the prime reason for this team's success this season.

EDIT: I forgot Kyle Lowry in the list above. He's definitely one of the core guys of this team at this point.

[akiman911]

Raptor fans need to learn to not jump to conclusions. Ross has great potential- arguably greater than Demar's, much better shooting touch and defense. Unfortunately we are currently starting two shooting guards, resulting in Ross guarding wings too big for him ( he is quite lighter it seems and I think around same height as DD). Couple this with the fact that Derozan is now a "Superstar" to casual fans , don't forget a fanbase that jumped on him from day one- You can bet TRoss' Development will be hampered to some extent.

Unfortunately we cannot give Ross the same opportunity DD had to develop, so hopefully they can co-exist in some manner that will be mutually beneficial for them and for this team. More importantly, let's not let our less-skilled versions of Vince and Tmac seperate, resulting in millions of what-if's, and countless brain cells being obliterated due to substance abuse from our dear fanbase.

because derozan and ross are having a hard time co-existing right now? I doubt he will ever get in a mix up with derozan role wise. The guy takes smart shots

I don't mean they will have an altercation or argue over playing time. I mean we are starting 2 shooting guards essentially, leads to problems on defense for us against bigger 3's ( i.e. lebron, durant). Ross has to guard those guys...

Ross is already holding his own against tougher defensive matchups imagine what he would do against players his own size.

[theycallmeZZ]

Terrence Ross is unbelievabl...y doing an AMA on reddit this Thursday!

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1z ... d_for_the/

[UnderdogRaptors]

Wow.

Just wow. So Demar is already a superstar. And Ross will become one. Let's get the message out, see if Masai can trade Ross for a pick at draft time and get Wiggins.

Seriously, I'll just keep harping on Ross until he takes his game up to average, let alone star, let alone superstar. I ragged on DD for years, like lots of us, saying "all" he had to do was develop an outside shot, preferably a 3pt shot, to be a borderline All-star. And that panned out. As to Ross, he looks a lot more like Gerald Green than D-Wade at this point. But "all" he has to do is improve his 3pt shooting, defense, dribbling and passing, and he'll be a borderline star.

did you see what DD did against GSW? closed the game like true superstars are supposed to do but Ross right now is a excellent defender and will eventually be an elite shut-down defender, his 3pt shooting is elite, he just needs to work on his offensive repertoire and not avoid contact when he takes it to the rack..Silk Road already has a nice tear drop and crossover, hes also a very underrated passer. IMO no doubt he will be a superstar.

Yes, Ross is a superstar when he scores 51 points. But for the other 81 games, less so.

The word "superstar" is being tossed around pretty freely, though I still get the feeling deep down that some Green Font is missing in these posts. To put some perspective on it, who are superstars in today's game? Or at least, superstar wings? Lebron, Durant, D-Wade/Kobe when they're healthy, are the established superstars. The new kids in town: George, Curry, Harden. No, not Demar. Not yet. Ross? Who's he going to be equal to or better than? George? Maybe the best comparison, i.e. long, athletic wings. That might be the best model to look at. Like George in his first couple years, Ross has to take every part of his game up two notches. Ross's alleged great D is still a work in progress, I don't see the skills to ever become a playmaker like George, he's got a good shot so he could take his shooting to the next level.

So okay, I'll say the same thing I always said about Demar: he's got the body, can he put it all together? Can he improve each part of his game at least a little, year by year? If so, who knows. But Demar had the luxury of starting the development process 2.5 years younger.

I'm sorry but D-fade isn't a superstar anymore he plays like once every 5 nights to me Derozan is having a better year than him DD is the 2nd best SG in the nba after Harden and will be the upper echelon of SG in the east for the future because flabby and sick (dwade) will be done. DD will teach Ross how to become a superstar in this league they have very similar laid back personalities until DD knew it was time to become the face of the franchise and took over. Ross Lateral quicks already shows me he will be an elite defender in the future, I've seen him get beat plenty of times only to reject the players shot at the rim, PG became a superstar so why not silk road?

[Bertoo]

Most NBA swingmen have an offensive game. Ross' D is what is going to set him apart from the average guys, as he continues to develop.

[chuckdevlin]

Terrence Ross is unbelievabl...y doing an AMA on reddit this Thursday!

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1z ... d_for_the/

I just typed out my 7 questions. Pretty cool , seems like a guy that would be on reddit

[hillbilly hare]

did you see what DD did against GSW? closed the game like true superstars are supposed to do but Ross right now is a excellent defender and will eventually be an elite shut-down defender, his 3pt shooting is elite, he just needs to work on his offensive repertoire and not avoid contact when he takes it to the rack..Silk Road already has a nice tear drop and crossover, hes also a very underrated passer. IMO no doubt he will be a superstar.

Yes, Ross is a superstar when he scores 51 points. But for the other 81 games, less so.

The word "superstar" is being tossed around pretty freely, though I still get the feeling deep down that some Green Font is missing in these posts. To put some perspective on it, who are superstars in today's game? Or at least, superstar wings? Lebron, Durant, D-Wade/Kobe when they're healthy, are the established superstars. The new kids in town: George, Curry, Harden. No, not Demar. Not yet. Ross? Who's he going to be equal to or better than? George? Maybe the best comparison, i.e. long, athletic wings. That might be the best model to look at. Like George in his first couple years, Ross has to take every part of his game up two notches. Ross's alleged great D is still a work in progress, I don't see the skills to ever become a playmaker like George, he's got a good shot so he could take his shooting to the next level.

So okay, I'll say the same thing I always said about Demar: he's got the body, can he put it all together? Can he improve each part of his game at least a little, year by year? If so, who knows. But Demar had the luxury of starting the development process 2.5 years younger.

I'm sorry but D-fade isn't a superstar anymore he plays like once every 5 nights to me Derozan is having a better year than him DD is the 2nd best SG in the nba after Harden and will be the upper echelon of SG in the east for the future because flabby and sick (dwade) will be done. DD will teach Ross how to become a superstar in this league they have very similar laid back personalities until DD knew it was time to become the face of the franchise and took over. Ross Lateral quicks already shows me he will be an elite defender in the future, I've seen him get beat plenty of times only to reject the players shot at the rim, PG became a superstar so why not silk road?

I specifically referred to D-Wade, like Kobe, "when healthy".

Demar is having a great year and kudos to him for the work he's put in on his shooting and overall dedication to the game. But he is not the 2nd best SG in the league. And as to the "shooting guard" position, it is getting blurred, so it might be better to think of "smaller wings".

Then there's the question of regular season vs. post-season. When it counts. Basically, yeah, I don't put much stock into a guy getting props as a "superstar" for the numbers he puts up during the regular season, when a lot of opponents are half-assing it thru half their games. Demar still has a long way to go to catch up to D-Wade, even in his twilight, as well as Manu, the post-season HOFer. Then there's Dragic. Where does he fit in? SG or PG? Steph Curry? Whatever. Demar is playing well, but he's maybe 5th on the list. Naturally, he can boost that with a great post-season.

As to Ross, I'm glad he's got so many boosters, but he's done very very little in 1.5 seasons to suggest he might be a borderline All-star, let alone a superstar. So I'll just leave that to the future. For the time being, he's maybe top 30 in terms of wings.

[Danny1616]

Ross has all the tools to become a superstar in this league. He is easily more talented then Derozan. His athleticism is off the charts and his outside stroke is elite.

The question obviously is whether he has the IQ and work ethic to put it altogether.

Only thing that worries me sometimes is that he plays passive at times and doesn't demand the ball enough. He also needs to drive more and not shy away from contact.

I don't like the fact that Casey is limiting his impact in terms of minutes played and not setting up enough plays for him. This might be slowing his development, but may be good in the long-run.

I guess time will tell.

[rrdjutriurt]

Ray Allen clone if i've ever seen one!

[AkelaLoneWolf]

Whoa holy overreaction BAtman!!!
Can someone please link to a thread from last year where everyone thought Ross was a colossal bust.
Now we have a wild swing of the pendulum and everyone thinks Ross is gonna be a superstar.
I would suggest to those people to let go of expectations and enjoy the surprise breathru this kid has had and enjoy watching some good basektball.
I've been a supporter of Ross from day one on this forum and he is not going to be a superstar. I'd be surprised if he made an allstar list.
He has quite a ways to go and his biggest limiting factor will be his age. He might continue to develop as Demar has done but Demar is strictly an outlier. Players generally don't break out in their fifth years.
Right now Ross enjoys playing beside Lowry who gets the ball to him in good spots and besides Demar who takes the brunt of the opposing defensive focus. Ross has never had to create his shot from zero and he has never really faced double teams or anything.
Having said that I'm definitely rooting for this kid and hopes he does make the allstar team one day even if it only once or twice!!!

[DemarRoss]

Ray Allen clone if i've ever seen one!

Have you ever watched Terrence Ross or Ray Allen?

[hillbilly hare]

Ross has all the tools to become a superstar in this league. He is easily more talented then Derozan. His athleticism is off the charts and his outside stroke is elite.

The question obviously is whether he has the IQ and work ethic to put it altogether.

Only thing that worries me sometimes is that he plays passive at times and doesn't demand the ball enough. He also needs to drive more and not shy away from contact.

I don't like the fact that Casey is limiting his impact in terms of minutes played and not setting up enough plays for him. This might be slowing his development, but may be good in the long-run.

I guess time will tell.

And there's the problem with the ridiculously exaggerated posts about Ross being a future superstar; indeed I have questions about whether he'll ever be a borderline All-star, but what the heck.

The above points, good ones at that, could have been cut and pasted from a quick assessment of Gerald Green about 3 or 4 or 5 years ago. Athleticism off the charts, dunk contest champ, good shooting stroke, the physical ability to be a good defender (as in, why not, he's got hops and length and quickness, etc.). He was getting limited minutes throughout his career, though part of which may have been a reputation as not being the sharpest tool in the toolbox. He got drafted really young, out of high school, which was clearly a big mistake. But now he seems to be turning it around.

To be honest, I would not be unhappy if Ross turned into today's version of Gerald Green, who is producing about 20 pts per 36 mpg and shooting 39% from 3, 85% from the line and a .580 TS%. Plus, as so many people are saying, Ross is going to become a very good defender (we can only hope), so there should be no reason he isn't playing 36 mpg. So, for those who scoff at the 2014 Gerald Green comparisons (as if it was an insult), are you seriously saying you expect MORE than 20 ppg on good 3pt and FT shooting?