M.Scotto: Toronto made Powell available in trade discussions

[johanliebert]

I bet half the people on here want to trade norm just for the sake of making a trade lmao

And I isn’t understand why he has stans. He has never been consistent and or played well over allege sample size. It’s been two years of playin a good game every 10.

Also what makes you think he doesn’t want to be moved? He’s out of the rotation he only been play9ng recently because Miles was our for 3 games.

[johanliebert]

I’m just happy cj is back so this guy is back out of the rotation. Fred and og have taken his spot ..Fred hs already done more on the court in 2 months than Powell has done in 2 years.

They can find somebody else to hit open 3;s

[Cool-Hand-Luke]

Honestly, this is not surprising. What could we get for him though?

[BramptonYute]

he should only be traded in package for a third star

[MavCarter]

I bet half the people on here want to trade norm just for the sake of making a trade lmao

And I isn’t understand why he has stans. He has never been consistent and or played well over allege sample size. It’s been two years of playin a good game every 10.

Also what makes you think he doesn’t want to be moved? He’s out of the rotation he only been play9ng recently because Miles was our for 3 games.

I'm a stan because i don't want him traded at his lowest value for garbage?

[VanWest82]

I would much rather trade Cj miles. let Powell gets mins after that. raise his value than trade him at draft

This is what I was suggesting in the FA/Trade thread. Let's trade CJ to OKC (via their designated injured player exception) for a couple of 2nd round picks like Phoenix did with the Tucker trade last year.

OKC needs another wing with Roberson out, and just more shooting in general. We need to make room for the guy we just gave 42M, and we gain financial flexibility to deal with guys like FVV in the offseason, not to mention replenish some of our lost pick capital.

[OAKLEY_2]

People are so eager to trade powell for trash. Yikes

Powell/CJ/JV future pick
For
Kemba/CodyZ

Works in the trade machine.

Fred can be traded high for a pick.

Ok...now you gotta tell us...Bryan Colangelo or Dell Demps or Billy King? Surely you must be one of these people with a proposal like that?

Oh so you are saying Charlotte is fleecing us? Seriously - MJ if anyone, is the one hanging up.

[OAKLEY_2]

Powell/CJ/JV future pick
For
Kemba/CodyZ

Works in the trade machine.

Fred can be traded high for a pick.

So your plan is to trade useful players who fill roles here for a star in Kemba who plays the same position as our highest paid player. Plus we have VanVleet and Wright playing really good. Seems like a short sighted move. Especially since your handing out a pick as well.

Short-sighted is such a kind way to say what you really mean.

Am thinking KL succession plan.

[icoholic]

Powell for TRoss

[Mr Swagtastic]

So your plan is to trade useful players who fill roles here for a star in Kemba who plays the same position as our highest paid player. Plus we have VanVleet and Wright playing really good. Seems like a short sighted move. Especially since your handing out a pick as well.

Short-sighted is such a kind way to say what you really mean.

Am thinking KL succession plan.

With a UFA in 18 months? Seems like a backwards way of looking at things especially since Kyle Lowrys deal runs longer and is making almost 3x as much.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

I don’t know why MJ would want Kyle.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

[AkelaLoneWolf]

This is crazy to me because FVV despite how good he is playing is a 3rd string pg here. I’m taking Delon and norm and would much rather pay them their value rather than FVV and pay him whatever he is going to get. Y’all are in the what have you done for me lately stage, which is fine and fair. FVV has outplayed both of them this year and I’d much rather go fwd with both Delon and Norm rather than FVV.

understatement of the year...
you want to go with delon and norm despite the fact that fvv has outplayed them? And remember fvv was showing sparks last year too; he was a little too wild and out of control then. delon and norm haven't made any significant leaps in their games, not to mention they're older i.e. they're getting close to their ceilings while fvv still on the way up.

[Psubs]

This is crazy to me because FVV despite how good he is playing is a 3rd string pg here. I’m taking Delon and norm and would much rather pay them their value rather than FVV and pay him whatever he is going to get. Y’all are in the what have you done for me lately stage, which is fine and fair. FVV has outplayed both of them this year and I’d much rather go fwd with both Delon and Norm rather than FVV.

understatement of the year...
you want to go with delon and norm despite the fact that fvv has outplayed them? And remember fvv was showing sparks last year too; he was a little too wild and out of control then. delon and norm haven't made any significant leaps in their games, not to mention they're older i.e. they're getting close to their ceilings while fvv still on the way up.

FVV's floor is now Damon Stoudamire! His ceiling may be Lowry.

[XxIronChainzxX]

I would much rather trade Cj miles. let Powell gets mins after that. raise his value than trade him at draft

This is what I was suggesting in the FA/Trade thread. Let's trade CJ to OKC (via their designated injured player exception) for a couple of 2nd round picks like Phoenix did with the Tucker trade last year.

OKC needs another wing with Roberson out, and just more shooting in general. We need to make room for the guy we just gave 42M, and we gain financial flexibility to deal with guys like FVV in the offseason, not to mention replenish some of our lost pick capital.

Where is the offense coming from on the bench? 2nd round picks aren't really pick capital despite Masai doing well on them lately. Norm isn't playing well so far, so losing CJ to make room for Norm to play himself into shape is a bad win now move, when the East is more open than ever. Next year even if Cleveland totally collapse Boston gets better just with Hayward coming back and their young players getting older. I'm not disagreeing on potentially moving CJ to make room, but I think that's an offseason move.

[djsunyc]

rename thread to "M.Sotto: I don't know how the NBA CBA works"

[nitrous]

rename thread to "M.Sotto: I don't know how the NBA CBA works"

But if he has sources, possible they know something we don't?

[VanWest82]

I would much rather trade Cj miles. let Powell gets mins after that. raise his value than trade him at draft

This is what I was suggesting in the FA/Trade thread. Let's trade CJ to OKC (via their designated injured player exception) for a couple of 2nd round picks like Phoenix did with the Tucker trade last year.

OKC needs another wing with Roberson out, and just more shooting in general. We need to make room for the guy we just gave 42M, and we gain financial flexibility to deal with guys like FVV in the offseason, not to mention replenish some of our lost pick capital.

Where is the offense coming from on the bench? 2nd round picks aren't really pick capital despite Masai doing well on them lately. Norm isn't playing well so far, so losing CJ to make room for Norm to play himself into shape is a bad win now move, when the East is more open than ever. Next year even if Cleveland totally collapse Boston gets better just with Hayward coming back and their young players getting older. I'm not disagreeing on potentially moving CJ to make room, but I think that's an offseason move.

Think you might be overvaluing CJ's contributions...but yes obviously it hurts our depth and spacing some on the second unit. Powell looks like he's starting to turn the corner though, and long-term he's the more important piece.

Personally, I think getting Powell back on track is more important than the other considerations. We'll need his athleticism come playoffs. But the picks and future cap flexibility is probably worth the trade all by itself IMO and you're more likely to get a better return from a team desperate to win at the trade deadline than a team that has all the time in the world to figure out end of rotation spots in July.

[YogiStewart]

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

this whole thread is pure garbage. it should really be shut down. he can't be traded

[XxIronChainzxX]

This is what I was suggesting in the FA/Trade thread. Let's trade CJ to OKC (via their designated injured player exception) for a couple of 2nd round picks like Phoenix did with the Tucker trade last year.

OKC needs another wing with Roberson out, and just more shooting in general. We need to make room for the guy we just gave 42M, and we gain financial flexibility to deal with guys like FVV in the offseason, not to mention replenish some of our lost pick capital.

Where is the offense coming from on the bench? 2nd round picks aren't really pick capital despite Masai doing well on them lately. Norm isn't playing well so far, so losing CJ to make room for Norm to play himself into shape is a bad win now move, when the East is more open than ever. Next year even if Cleveland totally collapse Boston gets better just with Hayward coming back and their young players getting older. I'm not disagreeing on potentially moving CJ to make room, but I think that's an offseason move.

Think you might be overvaluing CJ's contributions...but yes obviously it hurts our depth and spacing some on the second unit. Powell looks like he's starting to turn the corner though, and long-term he's the more important piece.

Personally, I think getting Powell back on track is more important than anything else. We'll need his athleticism come playoffs. But the picks and future cap flexibility is definitely worth the trade all by itself IMO.

I think you're underrating CJ. We're playing a lot of straight bench units, and going with Powell at the 3 with FVV and Norm gets us undersized even though Powell is a good defender. His weakness right now go beyond being cold, he needs to expand his game a bit and he's not a catch & shoot 3 point player. Again, I don't disagree with you philosophically but I think it takes more than CJ's minutes for the reason of the season for Norm to recover.

I think being in a position to take the 1st seed or stay locked in 2nd with the Cavs fluctuating seeding matters a lot more. If we struggle in the RS it will start creating problems for the team generally.