Shams: Fred VanVleet has agreed to a four-year, $85M deal to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors

nikster · Post #121 » by **nikster** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

realball wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:
KINGTHANOS wrote:
Oh shut up... Fred will provide surplus value over this contract with his defense and shooting alone, even if he doesn't improve his finishing or pick and roll passing

You keep thinking that but I dont want to see you crying half way through the season about his contract.

Looks like you're doing enough crying for the rest of us.

This is a good deal, we gave him what other players at his level are getting. Considering Jeremi Grant $20 mill a year we did very well.

Yup this is a fine deal.
In our title season he would have been the 5th highest paid player on our team.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #122 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

Ibaka probably next

720 · Post #123 » by **720** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

sidsid wrote:It was crucial to keep this deal under 20 million so that you had a lot of trade option maneuverability for the Giannis offseason. By outbidding ourselves and overpaying a role player we might miss out on luring him here.

No we don’t. lol We can still sign Giannis next year.

alienchild · Post #124 » by **alienchild** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

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realball · Post #125 » by **realball** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:24 pm

720 wrote:
sidsid wrote:It was crucial to keep this deal under 20 million so that you had a lot of trade option maneuverability for the Giannis offseason. By outbidding ourselves and overpaying a role player we might miss out on luring him here.

No we don’t. lol We can still sign Giannis next year.

And his contract will dip below $20 million next season. Masai making everyone happy.

macNcheese3 · Post #126 » by **macNcheese3** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

Great to have FVV back! He’s earned this.

KL78192020 · Post #127 » by **KL78192020** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

DonDoolie wrote:
KINGTHANOS wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

Oh shut up... Fred will provide surplus value over this contract with his defense and shooting alone, even if he doesn't improve his finishing or pick and roll passing

You keep thinking that but I dont want to see you crying half way through the season about his contract.

lol relax man. He can always be traded.

OakleyDokely · Post #128 » by **OakleyDokely** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:25 pm

sidsid wrote:It was crucial to keep this deal under 20 million so that you had a lot of trade option maneuverability for the Giannis offseason. By outbidding ourselves and overpaying a role player we might miss out on luring him here.

Raps still project to have a max slot available next year. If it gets tight, they could always move Norm. Creating a max slot isn't a problem at all. Getting a player worthy of a max is the hard part.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #129 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Raps finna keep winning games, league best get used to it if it hasn't already

TR50 · Post #130 » by **TR50** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

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sidsid · Post #131 » by **sidsid** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:26 pm

720 wrote:
sidsid wrote:It was crucial to keep this deal under 20 million so that you had a lot of trade option maneuverability for the Giannis offseason. By outbidding ourselves and overpaying a role player we might miss out on luring him here.

No we don’t. lol We can still sign Giannis next year.

It's not the money to sign him that's the issue. It's dumping Fred's contract for an all-star that Giannis wants to play with that's an issue.

Can't see Washington being interested in an overpayed role player when the collusion with Bradley Beal happens. Just an example of the type of stuff that could be needed to get him here

TrustFundBaby · Post #132 » by **TrustFundBaby** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:27 pm

Freddy was infuriating at times to watch, but it's because he was our most reliable shot creator since Siakam choked. That's not his role

If we get a real star than FVV, who is a sniper and elite defender, is great for even 21m.

He even took a discount in the second year for a chance at Giannis.

will · Post #133 » by **will** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:28 pm

Hell yeah!
Senior really doing the most to secure the bag AND help the Raptors cap situation out. What a man.

nikster · Post #134 » by **nikster** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:28 pm

DonDoolie wrote:
RaptorNews wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

They can easily trade that, calm down

Nah this is a bad contract you don't sign contracts like this hoping you can trade it later. 21 million for this overrated chucker is a joke. Same people in here saying its a fair deal will be crying by mid season. But leave it to raptors fans to overrate the hell out of mediocre players

Nah, the only people that are gonna be crying about this midseason are the same ones crying about it now. If there's one unfortunate fact about this board, is that posters like you will never quit crying

RaptorsNorth · Post #135 » by **RaptorsNorth** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:31 pm

seeing other fans on my timeline saying DJ Augustin is a better PG than Fred

Me

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scopy · Post #136 » by **scopy** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:31 pm

DonDoolie wrote:
RaptorNews wrote:
DonDoolie wrote:Terrible. 21 million for fred is a **** joke. Goodbye being a competitive team if we are just handing out money like this to role players. Especially a guard that **** the bed as soon as they put size on him. Ffs

They can easily trade that, calm down

Nah this is a bad contract you don't sign contracts like this hoping you can trade it later. 21 million for this overrated chucker is a joke. Same people in here saying its a fair deal will be crying by mid season. But leave it to raptors fans to overrate the hell out of mediocre players

Did you watch any basketball during our championship run? This a rhetorical question by the way.

baller16 · Post #137 » by **baller16** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:32 pm

The deal isn't bad but I really hope we can get Dipo somehow. I really hate the undersized 2 guard lineup so we need to get a legit SG.

M3tro · Post #138 » by **M3tro** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:33 pm

Can't really complain about the deal.

He'll be our starting PG soon enough.

Jay_Hawk · Post #139 » by **Jay_Hawk** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:39 pm

This is fair price for Fred.

Say what you want about his play, but there would be a HUGE gap in our leadership core if he left. Fred's the face of our development department, and next to Kyle, he might be the most important voice in the locker room. You don't let that guy go unless it's for an absurd amount, which this contract definitely is not.

MavCarter · Post #140 » by **MavCarter** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:44 pm

sidsid wrote:It was crucial to keep this deal under 20 million so that you had a lot of trade option maneuverability for the Giannis offseason. By outbidding ourselves and overpaying a role player we might miss out on luring him here.

Go on cap guru tell us about all the maneuvering we'll have to do even though we still have a max slot with fvvs deal next year