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Re: PG- Moral Victory 

Post#121 » by Ranger One » Wed May 5, 2021 9:16 am

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Ref_from_hell wrote:Even if you're for the tank, imagine being happy the Clippers and Steve Ballmer beat you. Pretty much akin to some guy stealing your girlfriend and then you being happy seeing them have sex in front of you. So much beta mentality. Sad!


What if the girlfriend has STDs. Then it would be fun watching the guy sexing your girlfriend. And then you can kidnap him and torture him for 3 months. Turn him from a normal human being into a mangled up orc with limbs missing. Just thinking about it makes me laugh so much.


Yo, which TV show is this from?? Sounds game of throneish
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Post#122 » by TravisScott55 » Wed May 5, 2021 11:25 am

I hope Clippers choke in the playoffs again.
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Post#123 » by RapsFanInOhio » Wed May 5, 2021 12:03 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:So Nick puts in Stanley with a few minutes to go, and then Bembry when we're 5 points down.

How can so many of you not see it? This organization is pure class. Anybody can do a strip it down OKC approach, but this is most masterful tank ever. It will be a case study for sports colleges for decades to come.

And imagine the karma with the league we're earning at the same time. Cade is coming to town!

This! It’s been clear for almost two months now. They see the end game, and while it got a little blatant for a while, it’s pretty clear what the goal is.

Look at Nick’s comments about OG’s back: “playing it safe, don’t want it to turn into something that’s 6-8 weeks” etc. it’s somewhat obvious but yet they’re being more tactful about it now.

Watch - that Bulls game next week will be a freaking masterpiece. No OG, no Fred, no Kyle, no GTJ, no Siakam. None of them are playing in that one.
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Re: PG- Moral Victory 

Post#124 » by Mikistan » Wed May 5, 2021 12:16 pm

Dang this game was really good in the first half - both teams were executing and playing in the flow - identifying miss matches well, throwing doubles, seeing some bench players step up and throw punches, getting on offensive glass...

I fell asleep during the 3rd and looks like It was a good thing I did because boy oh boy am i sick of watching Siakam make mistakes in the 4th
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Post#125 » by Lord_Zedd » Wed May 5, 2021 12:27 pm

Siakam running a fast break in clutch moments should be considered a turnover at this point.
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Re: PG- Moral Victory 

Post#126 » by fbalmeida » Wed May 5, 2021 12:29 pm

Birch and Gillespie have been such a wonderful palette cleanser after Baynes.

Fantastic defense early 4th quarter, but I hated every single Morris bucket.

Pascal's passiveness in the 4th quarter post-Kawhi is still baffling. He's more passive and undecided as a first option than he was as a 2nd option under Kawhi, where he seemed to relish every crunch time opportunity.

Not sure why Nurse opted for Stanimal down the stretch over Jalen Harris when he hadn't yet missed a shot.

Lastly, it was disturbing to see Ibaka dancing to the tune of a Raptors loss. I still wasn't ready for that.
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Post#127 » by Sandman88 » Wed May 5, 2021 12:32 pm

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Post#128 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed May 5, 2021 12:50 pm

Nurse overloaded Fred and Pascal's minutes on a night where the bench was holding its own. And then that weird sub of Birch for Bembry at the end, leaving Stanley out there when Harris was perfect from the night. This isn't tanking, these are just bad coaching decisions. This isn't even a depth issue, because he jacks those guys' minutes even when OG and Lowry are playing.

Anyway, entertaining from start to finish. I'm not sure Cousins is going to cut it doing extreme drop back coverage all night and loafing back in transition. We pretty much won the title picking on him, and he was in much better shape then.
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Post#129 » by sbsat » Wed May 5, 2021 1:00 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Nurse overloaded Fred and Pascal's minutes on a night where the bench was holding its own. And then that weird sub of Birch for Bembry at the end, leaving Stanley out there when Harris was perfect from the night. This isn't tanking, these are just bad coaching decisions. This isn't even a depth issue, because he jacks those guys' minutes even when OG and Lowry are playing.

Anyway, entertaining from start to finish. I'm not sure Cousins is going to cut it doing extreme drop back coverage all night and loafing back in transition. We pretty much won the title picking on him, and he was in much better shape then.


I think it is tanking
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Post#130 » by Parataxis » Wed May 5, 2021 1:17 pm

God Squad wrote:I was a little worried Raps were gonna end up winning. But the basketball Gods blessed us.


Every time the Clippers nearly put our L out of reach, we found a way to get them back into it.
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Post#131 » by RapsAndJays21 » Wed May 5, 2021 1:24 pm

I hope the Clips and Lakers matchup in R1. Seeing either of those teams lose in the 1st would be a treat.
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Post#132 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed May 5, 2021 1:49 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Nurse overloaded Fred and Pascal's minutes on a night where the bench was holding its own. And then that weird sub of Birch for Bembry at the end, leaving Stanley out there when Harris was perfect from the night. This isn't tanking, these are just bad coaching decisions. This isn't even a depth issue, because he jacks those guys' minutes even when OG and Lowry are playing.

Anyway, entertaining from start to finish. I'm not sure Cousins is going to cut it doing extreme drop back coverage all night and loafing back in transition. We pretty much won the title picking on him, and he was in much better shape then.


I think it is tanking


You think Nurse was worried about Birch scoring 5 points in the last minute of the game?
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Post#133 » by HiJiNX » Wed May 5, 2021 2:33 pm

I’m a Siakam guy but there is a trend developing for sure—the 4th Q is not his friend. He was getting away from the ball as much as possible at the end there, deferring to Freddy. And then with his number called he made mistakes. His late game confidence is at an all time low which makes sense given the way the last season ended and this one started. He still hasn’t shaken off the bubble and the four last second shots he missed earlier in the season. He gonna need to get his head straight this off-season or he’s gonna get run outta town by the fans.

It’s wild because he’s had some good late game performances this season, most notably taking it to Giannis in the home and home vs the Bucks, but it seems like it’s been a 3:1 ratio of clunkers balanced against successes. The game is moving too fast for him in clutch moments. And he’s in his head too much. He needs to get it sorted out. It’s one thing to not be a super clutch scorer, it’s another to be a complete wildcard at the end of games. That’s bad for him and bad for team morale, considering he’s still our player with the highest ceiling on a given night. Hopefully OG can change that next year.
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Re: PG- Moral Victory 

Post#134 » by mtcan » Wed May 5, 2021 2:38 pm

HiJiNX wrote:I’m a Siakam guy but there is a trend developing for sure—the 4th Q is not his friend. He was getting away from the ball as much as possible at the end there, deferring to Freddy. And then with his number called he made mistakes. His late game confidence is at an all time low which makes sense given the way the last season ended and this one started. He still hasn’t shaken off the bubble and the four last second shots he missed earlier in the season. He gonna need to get his head straight this off-season or he’s gonna get run outta town by the fans.

It’s wild because he’s had some good late game performances this season, most notably taking it to Giannis in the home and home vs the Bucks, but it seems like it’s been a 3:1 ratio of clunkers balanced against successes. The game is moving too fast for him in clutch moments. And he’s in his head too much. He needs to get it sorted out. It’s one thing to not be a super clutch scorer, it’s another to be a complete wildcard at the end of games. That’s bad for him and bad for team morale, considering he’s still our player with the highest ceiling on a given night. Hopefully OG can change that next year.

He shouldn't be the guy with the ball in his hands to win the game...we know that already. We need someone who is capable of the big plays in the big moments. The last guy we had at that level...was wearing a Clippers jersey and has a weird laugh. Maybe we find that guy in the draft.
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Post#135 » by HiJiNX » Wed May 5, 2021 2:39 pm

Also, Nurse bringing in the all defence lineup halfway through the fourth was a head scratcher. No idea why we didn’t keep Bembry and Harris out there as they were playing well with Siakam/Birch/Fred. Once that sun was made it became the FVV/Siakam iso show and neither of those guys are good enough to do that.
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Post#136 » by HiJiNX » Wed May 5, 2021 2:41 pm

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HiJiNX wrote:I’m a Siakam guy but there is a trend developing for sure—the 4th Q is not his friend. He was getting away from the ball as much as possible at the end there, deferring to Freddy. And then with his number called he made mistakes. His late game confidence is at an all time low which makes sense given the way the last season ended and this one started. He still hasn’t shaken off the bubble and the four last second shots he missed earlier in the season. He gonna need to get his head straight this off-season or he’s gonna get run outta town by the fans.

It’s wild because he’s had some good late game performances this season, most notably taking it to Giannis in the home and home vs the Bucks, but it seems like it’s been a 3:1 ratio of clunkers balanced against successes. The game is moving too fast for him in clutch moments. And he’s in his head too much. He needs to get it sorted out. It’s one thing to not be a super clutch scorer, it’s another to be a complete wildcard at the end of games. That’s bad for him and bad for team morale, considering he’s still our player with the highest ceiling on a given night. Hopefully OG can change that next year.

He shouldn't be the guy with the ball in his hands to win the game...we know that already. We need someone who is capable of the big plays in the big moments. The last guy we had at that level...was wearing a Clippers jersey and has a weird laugh. Maybe we find that guy in the draft.

Word. What I’m saying is there’s a difference between missing shots late game or not being able to beat the defence versus what we are seeing with Siakam, which is unforced turnovers. This is two late game advantageous transition opportunities in two weeks he’s ruined with turnovers. That’s not about his talent level, that’s about his head.
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Re: PG- Moral Victory 

Post#137 » by Dennis 37 » Wed May 5, 2021 2:46 pm

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Raptaz wrote:How does kawhi get 13 points on 3/6 shots


Our defense, which Raptors fans look away from the screen during.


Honestly I just think Kawhi was sleepwalking tonight. We didn't play him that aggressively. He was just lazy tonight


I don;t recall him ever sleepwalking for us. Maybe home isn't all that he had hoped for.
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Post#138 » by WaltFrazier » Wed May 5, 2021 2:58 pm

mdenny wrote:
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Oakvillehoops wrote:I wish someone could compile a video of Siakams charges this season. They would really be comical watching them one after another. Bonus if you add circus music


You could do this for any forward in the NBA. So what would be the point exactly?

Siakam has a 2-to-1 assist to turnover ratio, it's not like he doesn't look to pass.


To be fair....I was expecting the pass to birch to get mucked up. There was an awkwardness in how the play developed. I don't think the pass was COMPLETELY there....looked like a risk.

Probably should have just pulled it back out though.


I think Birch is quite capable of catching a pass on the wing where he was and taking 1-2 dribbles to a dunk. But it did look a bit off because he was not wide enough, ie too close to Siakam. I find the Raps often do this, not run their lanes wide enough. And yeah, Pascal needed to pull back or do a jump stop, not keep going downhill. He is a capable ballhandler for 6'9, just needs to make better decisions on the run.
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Post#139 » by kj_ » Wed May 5, 2021 3:07 pm

Ref_from_hell wrote:I count about 7-8 games now where Pascal has done something completely idiotic in the final minutes that tilts the game for the opponent.

It's so incredibly hard to cheer for this guy. Horrible shooting percentage tonight and no late game execution.

Fred looked amazing and people want him traded. Right.

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Post#140 » by Dennis 37 » Wed May 5, 2021 3:07 pm

Fred says that "We are the best worst team."

These two videos were side by side in my Youtube recommends.

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