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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#121 » by Bobby Plump » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:25 pm

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dgr81 wrote:Is this confirmation that Ish is sticking around?

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It's confirmation he got free tickets. haha


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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#122 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:27 pm

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Sekou Doumbouya has started 30 games by age 20, does that mean anything at all? Some teams are bad and start bad players.

you have made my point.
He has only been in the league for 2 seasons. 2! and he is only 20.
By the way, Lakers have Signed Sekou Doumbouya To Two-Way Deal
Lol once again, 15th man that they hope will turn into something but most probably won't. Feel free to revisit this once they resign him to a real contract.

Like I said. You have already made my point. Thank you for that.
You can wish for a 20-year old to fail if you want:
But It makes no sense to give up on a player that was drafted 15th (due to potential) at 18 years old, after just two seasons. Teams have no patience.

An alleged shooter that can't defend at 27(that would just amass DNP-CDs) vs a 21 year old SF with PG skills that can defend that started 50+ games already:
With our development system (see FVV, OG, Pascal and Norm). I know who we should be keeping.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#123 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:29 pm

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PrinceAli wrote:If this is any indication, I’m thinking ish and Bonga made the cut
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German flag for Bonga...

Bye bye dekker?

If anything it's bye bye Wainwright

Or you can attempt to look at the flag (further left) !
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#124 » by mtcan » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:40 pm

ash_k wrote:
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German flag for Bonga...

Bye bye dekker?

If anything it's bye bye Wainwright

Or you can attempt to look at the flag (further left) !

I don't see a Confederate or MAGA flag so it must mean Dekker is gone.

Ok I kid...I kid.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#125 » by Bobby Plump » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:40 pm

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ash_k wrote:Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
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You are quibbling about the 15th spot on the roster on a team with youth inexperience already. If Bonga was the superior talent why isn't he a factor in Washington?


Washington could not have kept him because they had multiple players coming in from the Westbrook trade and would have been way over the roster limit.


Bonga was pushed out of a roster spot on the Wizards due to free agent signings (Dinwiddie and Holiday) plus the Westbrook/Lakers deal brought multiple rotation players to the Wizards (Kuzma, Harrell, and KCP) in exchange for one player.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#126 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:45 pm

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Bonga value inflating is just more race horse fetish like he is the long shot to place. Give it up. As injury insurance I'll take Dekker and Ish twice on Sundays.

Give it up, Nurse team is everyone defends first. Bonga(57 games by 21y old) has started more NBA games than Dekker (8 games). No point of keeping a 27-year old in need of playing-time that would be glued to the bench as he cant to G-League like Bonga can. Dekker might as well go back to Europe and build his resume.

A poster attempted to put Anthony Parker in the same breath as Dekker, to make a counter point.
We would welcome Dekker back with playing time once he can do something similar to (and can defend):
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That poster (me) was not comparing Anthony Parker, the player, to Sam Dekker. You clearly understood the point I was making, which was to counter your logic that former NBA guys now playing overseas, are "out of the league for a reason". Now your argument is that former NBA guys actually need to be out of the league for a far longer period of time, in order to accumulate Euro League accolades and championships, before they can make a case for deserving to make it back to the NBA. It's clear you have this hate-on for Dekker, that does not extend to any of the other tryout guys, which began at the very moment we signed him. It has been put to you by multiple posters now, including myself, that your perspective may indeed be predicated on one very dumb tweet by JR Smith in the offseason, and you have outright refused to address if that is indeed the issue for you or not. Dekker could have gotten 20mpg in all 5 preseason games and been lights out in all of them, and you would still advocate cutting him.


They are out of the league for a reason because they don't have the NBA level. Then Like Parker, he went to Europe, IMPROVED, and demonstrated (in his case) that he was the best American player outside of the NBA BY Far. Or like PJ Tucker (you brought him up as well) that dominated in Germany to start getting a ticket back in the league.
What has Dekker done? 2 seasons - one in Russia and one in Turkey(not even Fenerbahce and Besiktas).
You can get out of here with all that nonsense (JR Smith?!). Like anyone would care if he could play like Svi(let's cut Svi because of something JR Smith said :crazy: ). He sucks, deal with it! Enjoy Svi!
He does not fit our philosophy(length and defense). Bonga and others do. It made no sense to sign him in the first place(unless it was a favor).
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#127 » by dgr81 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:00 pm

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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#128 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:07 pm

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hmmmm

What?
He has not been cut yet? :lol:
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Post#129 » by everdiso » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:19 pm

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Post#130 » by Syd-TK3 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:22 pm

Dekker Close with Scottie he might deserve to stay just for that
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Post#132 » by ThemCrookedRefs » Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:57 pm

We still have a few more days until the final roster has to be decided on and I think the FO will use every one of those days to make a decision. Bonga is interesting because of his size and youth. Wainright is interesting because of his size and potential leadership qualities. Dekker can shoot it. I was leaning towards Bonga and whoever, but I think I'd like to see Wainright and Dekker make the team. It's probably better to have skilled guys at the end of the bench to bring in for certain situations. Bonga needs further development and we already have so many young guys on the 905 and main roster. There will be plenty of other 6'9" guys to choose from in the future.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#134 » by ash_k » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:09 pm

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Looking at tweet about the Flags, it would be a bit strange if they then cut Ish.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#135 » by ItsDanger » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:18 pm

I don't think Wainwright is that good but would be a solid bench guy. Dekker can get his 3 pt shot off quick, thats valuable at 6'9. Bonga? Redundant on this roster. These guys aren't playing unless we run into multiple injuries anyways.
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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#138 » by C_Money » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:15 pm

I guess the team can’t make up their mind so they want to see more of them in practice.
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Post#139 » by PD28 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:24 pm

ash_k wrote:
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ash_k wrote:you have made my point.
He has only been in the league for 2 seasons. 2! and he is only 20.
By the way, Lakers have Signed Sekou Doumbouya To Two-Way Deal
Lol once again, 15th man that they hope will turn into something but most probably won't. Feel free to revisit this once they resign him to a real contract.

Like I said. You have already made my point. Thank you for that.
You can wish for a 20-year old to fail if you want:
But It makes no sense to give up on a player that was drafted 15th (due to potential) at 18 years old, after just two seasons. Teams have no patience.

An alleged shooter that can't defend at 27(that would just amass DNP-CDs) vs a 21 year old SF with PG skills that can defend that started 50+ games already:
With our development system (see FVV, OG, Pascal and Norm). I know who we should be keeping.
Bonga does not have PG skills... Lol.

You can wish for a 27-year old to fail if you want as well.
I'm sure you could defend signing Bruno over Dekker as well...as long as Bruno had no alleged connections to Trump.

Either way, you've made up your mind - and I doubt it'd change if Dekker dropped 50 points in that last game. I've made up mine as well, and it's going with whatever Nurse and the front office pick. Much like what they did in the draft.

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Re: Waive Watch: Gillespie and Perry waived 

Post#140 » by PD28 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:31 pm





Very positive talks and they all support one another which is nice to see! Hoping for them all to get a shot somewhere.
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