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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#121 » by Zeno » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:42 am

21 more shats than the Pacers. 100 shats!!! Who doesn’t dig the longball?
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#122 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:43 am

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#123 » by ThemCrookedRefs » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:49 am

The defence was impressive and it led to a lot of great chances. Fred, OG, Scottie, and Banton really stood out tonight. I thought Birch was pretty solid too despite Araujoing that dunk lol. When Pascal and Yuta are back, I think Birch needs to replace Precious in the SL; he's bigger and is more decisive with the ball. The defence is going to be even more suffocating when we're at full strength. Great to finally get a win at home!
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#124 » by NBA48mins » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:49 am

Wait I didn't know Chris Duarte is Canadian
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#125 » by DelAbbot » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:50 am

TravisScott55 wrote:I love scottie so much


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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#126 » by WaltFrazier » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:50 am

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sidsid wrote:Just wanna see more Barnes with the ball. Still too much ball pounding setup from the guards. Reversing more of the action where Fred ends with possession instead would lead to a bit more creativity maybe. Just feels like the bigs are rushing a bit too much at times.


It is weird seeing Barnes and Baton the two 6'9 guys be the ballmovers while FVV is pounding the rock to the end of the shotclock half the time. Even OG can kill possessions with over dribbling.

I do like the idea of ending the possession with Fred because it maximizes his shooting strength. I am sure they will experiment some more. It sure seemed like they were giving the ball to Scottie and just saying drive to the rim. He had a wild range of shots.

The more I watch Scottie's game be explored the more I see a cross between Antawn Jamison and Lamar Odom. Just a crazy bag of tricks in the painted area along with some showtime passing.


Much as I can't wait for Pascal to get back, he also tends to dribble out too much of the clock when he's making his penetrating moves. I hope the quicker ball-moving of Barnes and Banton makes the veterans change their habits.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#127 » by rocky_da_best » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:51 am

Surprised to see Nate Bjorkgren on our bench. Has he been here the entire time? lol. I must've missed when it was announced he was coming back.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#128 » by Raptors Realtor » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:51 am

Childs wrote:I really dont want Scottie on the bench when Pascal is back.


My guess is Nurse sticks with the length and sends GTjr to the bench and keeps Scotie in the starting lineup.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#129 » by mdenny » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:51 am

Dalek wrote:
sidsid wrote:Just wanna see more Barnes with the ball. Still too much ball pounding setup from the guards. Reversing more of the action where Fred ends with possession instead would lead to a bit more creativity maybe. Just feels like the bigs are rushing a bit too much at times.


It is weird seeing Barnes and Baton the two 6'9 guys be the ballmovers while FVV is pounding the rock to the end of the shotclock half the time. Even OG can kill possessions with over dribbling.

I do like the idea of ending the possession with Fred because it maximizes his shooting strength. I am sure they will experiment some more. It sure seemed like they were giving the ball to Scottie and just saying drive to the rim. He had a wild range of shots.

The more I watch Scottie's game be explored the more I see a cross between Antawn Jamison and Lamar Odom. Just a crazy bag of tricks in the painted area along with some showtime passing.



People were complaining about Fred over-dribbling/taking too long during the last 6 minutes or so.

There's some intentionality to that. Winning point guards know to start using up the entire shot clock when you're up by 15 points with under 10 minutes to play. One of the worst mistakes you can make is early shots in that situation. You can afford to come up empty on offensive possessions if you're also taking up 20 to 24 seconds each trip. The biggest mistake would be to force stuff early in the clock which opens up the opportunity for a faster comeback.

It's just another 'whatever fred does I'm gonna whine about it' thing.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#130 » by mtcan » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:54 am

NBA48mins wrote:Wait I didn't know Chris Duarte is Canadian

He's born in the Dominican Republic and raised in Montreal...so I'm not sure he identifies with being Canadian.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#131 » by mtcan » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:55 am

rocky_da_best wrote:Surprised to see Nate Bjorkgren on our bench. Has he been here the entire time? lol. I must've missed when it was announced he was coming back.

Indy is still paying Nate...so he can't get another "coaching" job...so he's on the staff as a "consultant"...lol
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#132 » by Dennis 37 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:55 am

Zero two short PG minutes.
Nurse recognizing talent in a young player and rewarding it.
Chris Boucher protecting the rim.
OG and Scottie taking turns dominating the game.
Fred with great recognition when he is going to be blocked, and choosing to do something else.
Fred deferring to Delano, when Delano is on the floor. Keeps Fred fresh. Gives Delano a chance to do his thing.
Fred playing a great game.

Priceless.

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#133 » by Dennis 37 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:58 am

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#135 » by GordanFreeman » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:01 am

Ref_from_hell wrote:Fred critics on suicide watch

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#136 » by sidsid » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:03 am

mdenny wrote:
Dalek wrote:
sidsid wrote:Just wanna see more Barnes with the ball. Still too much ball pounding setup from the guards. Reversing more of the action where Fred ends with possession instead would lead to a bit more creativity maybe. Just feels like the bigs are rushing a bit too much at times.


It is weird seeing Barnes and Baton the two 6'9 guys be the ballmovers while FVV is pounding the rock to the end of the shotclock half the time. Even OG can kill possessions with over dribbling.

I do like the idea of ending the possession with Fred because it maximizes his shooting strength. I am sure they will experiment some more. It sure seemed like they were giving the ball to Scottie and just saying drive to the rim. He had a wild range of shots.

The more I watch Scottie's game be explored the more I see a cross between Antawn Jamison and Lamar Odom. Just a crazy bag of tricks in the painted area along with some showtime passing.



People were complaining about Fred over-dribbling/taking too long during the last 6 minutes or so.

There's some intentionality to that. Winning point guards know to start using up the entire shot clock when you're up by 15 points with under 10 minutes to play. One of the worst mistakes you can make is early shots in that situation. You can afford to come up empty on offensive possessions if you're also taking up 20 to 24 seconds each trip. The biggest mistake would be to force stuff early in the clock which opens up the opportunity for a faster comeback.

It's just another 'whatever fred does I'm gonna whine about it' thing.


As we're seeing that Scottie is further ahead than anticipated in development, the offense should feature some action that challenges him more. I'm sure Nurse thought it might have been the regular guard show + Siakam and a sprinkling of OG development at the outset, but he should adapt now. Test out more early forward action with the green light to probe a bit.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#137 » by dTox » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:03 am

How in the world did Banton make so much strides in his game between summer league and the reg. Season? He's looking like a possible long term solution at our starting guard position, but still to early to say that with confidence.

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Post#138 » by Ref_from_hell » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:04 am

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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#139 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:08 am

mdenny wrote:
Dalek wrote:
sidsid wrote:Just wanna see more Barnes with the ball. Still too much ball pounding setup from the guards. Reversing more of the action where Fred ends with possession instead would lead to a bit more creativity maybe. Just feels like the bigs are rushing a bit too much at times.


It is weird seeing Barnes and Baton the two 6'9 guys be the ballmovers while FVV is pounding the rock to the end of the shotclock half the time. Even OG can kill possessions with over dribbling.

I do like the idea of ending the possession with Fred because it maximizes his shooting strength. I am sure they will experiment some more. It sure seemed like they were giving the ball to Scottie and just saying drive to the rim. He had a wild range of shots.

The more I watch Scottie's game be explored the more I see a cross between Antawn Jamison and Lamar Odom. Just a crazy bag of tricks in the painted area along with some showtime passing.



People were complaining about Fred over-dribbling/taking too long during the last 6 minutes or so.

There's some intentionality to that. Winning point guards know to start using up the entire shot clock when you're up by 15 points with under 10 minutes to play. One of the worst mistakes you can make is early shots in that situation. You can afford to come up empty on offensive possessions if you're also taking up 20 to 24 seconds each trip. The biggest mistake would be to force stuff early in the clock which opens up the opportunity for a faster comeback.

It's just another 'whatever fred does I'm gonna whine about it' thing.


This complaint has been going on for years about and I'm pretty sure I can tell you who exactly was posting that because... he's still not getting it.
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Re: PG: Raps outpace Indy 

Post#140 » by Dennis 37 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:09 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
ParadoxJ wrote:HOW good is that rookie on the raps!?

But which one am i talking bout?!


I was thinking, in a few years will we be debating, Barnes or Banton?


I think I've finally let go of Sonny Weems.
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