PG: Raptors @ Kings - Raps win. 'Bout time

[Mikistan]

Lol I looked it up like 5 to 7 days ago. So I guess it changed. Look at the margin though. You're just cherry-picking stats to prove your agenda. Also....fred has had a better ratio than Kyle for years now. There is no long-term issue with Fred's turnovers. You're making stuff up.

I’m cherry picking to prove my agenda? You posted a false stat and I corrected you lol

This is the first time Fred is actually primarily running PG though. Before that he had the luxury of playing next to Lowry

And even disregarding the ratio since it’s marginal as you say, Fred doesn’t have the same floor general presence. He’s not really running the offense like a true PG. the eye test says that and so do the numbers

Do you think the stats you posted constitute evidence that "masai needs to step in"?

Fred is posting all-star numbers. Cry about it.

Pretty shameful to get called out for posting an incorrect stat then laugh it off and double down on your narrative

[Barnes Burner]

“Trash Vanfleet”? Lol. Wipe the Cheetos dust off your stomach and get a life.

[hsb]

Gary Trent getting hot from the field may be he most fun parts about Raptors basketball this season. He makes scorong look so effortless.

[OAKLEY_2]

“Trash Vanfleet”? Lol. Wipe the Cheetos dust off your stomach and get a life.

So sick of fan morons trashing Freddy. Fred is all class. All leadership and... all champion. Just sad that he mentions the similar hate for Paskal in pressers. These are not fans they are comment section bots arm with a keypad.

[Kingsway_fan]

Gary Trent getting hot from the field may be he most fun parts about Raptors basketball this season. He makes scorong look so effortless.

Was only able to see the first half, but he has been the most pleasant surprise this year, imo.

And I liked Nurse taking him out early and then subbing him in with the second unit as he is a hired gun scorer and this way it gives more balance to first and second units. Wish he would do same with Fred, subbing him out earlier to get Banton in...

Otherwise too many going for their shots and also rendering Scottie a spectator...

[dgr81]

I can't believe how miserable some of your are after a win

[Chandan]

Gary Trent getting hot from the field may be he most fun parts about Raptors basketball this season. He makes scorong look so effortless.

Was only able to see the first half, but he has been the most pleasant surprise this year, imo.

And I liked Nurse taking him out early and then subbing him in with the second unit as he is a hired gun scorer and this way it gives more balance to first and second units. Wish he would do same with Fred, subbing him out earlier to get Banton in...

Otherwise too many going for their shots and also rendering Scottie a spectator...

yeah gary is clearly the most fluid scorer on this team. I have no problem with him being a black hole given his age. fire away.

[ash_k]

Hopefully, y'all appreciated the Superstar reaction of our All-Star Pascal

[ATLTimekeeper]

No one's talking about Richuan Holmes today? Birch killed him.

I thought there was some early Barnes on Barnes stuff that didn't go our way. Seemed like Scottie had some trouble staying in front of Harrison, who was drawing fouls with his shoulder parallel to the floor. They switched the match-up to Siakam and HB was silent the rest of the game. He just dominated this game.

Fred seemed to really struggle with ball pressure in this one. I'm glad he finally got called for an 8 seconds, because he's been getting away with them all season. Better here than in an important or close game.

The starting line-up definitely has some issues. I think it's obvious to me they need a Birch/Achiuwa to man the paint, but they need Gary's spacing/outlets. They may "find" injuries to a starter all year to keep this juggling act up.

Svi just cannot create in the PnR. He needs to be relegated to catch and shoot, attack a closeout with a pull-up, and then whatever he finds for himself in transition. I don't mind guys stretching their abilities, but when they consistently fail, like Achiuwa and Svi, you have to reign it in and get them playing confidently again. Same could be said for Boucher.

[Mikistan]

No one's talking about Richuan Holmes today? Birch killed him.

I thought there was some early Barnes on Barnes stuff that didn't go our way. Seemed like Scottie had some trouble staying in front of Harrison, who was drawing fouls with his shoulder parallel to the floor. They switched the match-up to Siakam and HB was silent the rest of the game. He just dominated this game.

Fred seemed to really struggle with ball pressure in this one. I'm glad he finally got called for an 8 seconds, because he's been getting away with them all season. Better here than in an important or close game.

The starting line-up definitely has some issues. I think it's obvious to me they need a Birch/Achiuwa to man the paint, but they need Gary's spacing/outlets. They may "find" injuries to a starter all year to keep this juggling act up.

Svi just cannot create in the PnR. He needs to be relegated to catch and shoot, attack a closeout with a pull-up, and then whatever he finds for himself in transition. I don't mind guys stretching their abilities, but when they consistently fail, like Achiuwa and Svi, you have to reign it in and get them playing confidently again. Same could be said for Boucher.

That 8 second call on Fred was something else. Your starting point guard checks into the game and first thing he does is bobble the ball and fail to get over half court. Hooooo man

[YogurtProducer]

Gotta hand it to him. Fred's really doing a great job of making Scottie look bad. Passes him the ball when he's not looking. Puts him in bad positions. Doesn't pass when he has a clear layup, good matchup. You can call it a "chemistry" issue if you want but theres clearly an issue going on here.

And yeah. Its the Kings... I wanna see Pascal do this against the Jazz or something. A good team that cares about scouting reports and player tendencies.

There’s no issues there let’s just calm down. You’re reading way to **** deep into absolutely nothing.

[fbalmeida]

Win.

But Siakam is still on the brink of everyone's patience.

It's going to take more than one good game against a bad team to bring him back off of it.

There's a level of 2-way consistency that he could reach that would justify his salary as a #2 or #3 guy, going forward. It's his if he wants it. But he has to want it and stop making excuses for himself.

[RapsFanInOhio]

[WuTang_OG]

Gary black hole trent was UNBELIEVABLE LAST NIGHT

Has done it all year

Masai robbed olshey

[WuTang_OG]

No one's talking about Richuan Holmes today? Birch killed him.

I thought there was some early Barnes on Barnes stuff that didn't go our way. Seemed like Scottie had some trouble staying in front of Harrison, who was drawing fouls with his shoulder parallel to the floor. They switched the match-up to Siakam and HB was silent the rest of the game. He just dominated this game.

Fred seemed to really struggle with ball pressure in this one. I'm glad he finally got called for an 8 seconds, because he's been getting away with them all season. Better here than in an important or close game.

The starting line-up definitely has some issues. I think it's obvious to me they need a Birch/Achiuwa to man the paint, but they need Gary's spacing/outlets. They may "find" injuries to a starter all year to keep this juggling act up.

Svi just cannot create in the PnR. He needs to be relegated to catch and shoot, attack a closeout with a pull-up, and then whatever he finds for himself in transition. I don't mind guys stretching their abilities, but when they consistently fail, like Achiuwa and Svi, you have to reign it in and get them playing confidently again. Same could be said for Boucher.

Yet this board was hot for holmes and wanting to give him huge money in FA.

Thats why u dont knee jerk in free agency. U end up with useless contracts with no value. BIRCH is high value production and contract. Great move.

[lobosloboslobos]

Fred probably wouldn’t allow that. His ego too big to let a rookie play point forward/guard.

At some point, gotta hope Masai takes matters into his own hands. Probably not gonna happen till next season tho

I think its inevitable that 1 of the 2 - Pascal or Freddie will be moved as they are simply stopping scottie's development....again, scottie has to work on his 3 point shot, become a better 2pt jump shooter, but he cant any of that during the season if he doesn't get any touches....its ridiculous that he is being ignored...

lets be honest here, there was an excitement here / overall NBA as well that we got a steal with him but, past 5 -7 games, its like meh....if the raptors lose games with him as a no.1 option, I can live with that, but to be losing with pascal / Freddie & GTJ acting as if he is Kobe Bryant frustrating...

GTJ needs to be moved for a bigger SG ; Dec. 15, cant arrive soon enough...

you guys are like the Q squad of this board, living in an alternate reality.

[LegenW84ITBOBBY]

Anybody else unable to see tweets posted in the app anymore?

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[djsunyc]

can i just quote a bunch of posts and just call them dumb or would that get me suspended? if it's just a warning, it would be worth it.

[sidsid]

The starting line-up definitely has some issues. I think it's obvious to me they need a Birch/Achiuwa to man the paint, but they need Gary's spacing/outlets. They may "find" injuries to a starter all year to keep this juggling act up.

If the C + Barnes and Siakam lineup works with Gary, it works with OG as the shooter too. It's the one lineup we've avoided since Siakam came back, but all the rotation problems - basically trying everything else - points to it being a viable one that also keeps the big 3 together to start.

Bigger piece is that Trent can be the missing offense for the bench unit. Flynn organizing it with Trent and Svi/Banton (although I still think Banton would gain more from playing in the G full time). Dragic comes in if needed.

Boucher and Dragic get moved for something. Maybe you get a 3rd C for insurance and there's a balanced rotation and development all around.

[HumbleRen]

Just don’t see how you can remove GTJ from the starting line up.


Just let Barnes lead the starting unit with Banton/SVI/Boucher/Precious while staggering GTJ minutes so he can run with that unit too.