Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey"

[Los_29]

It's also an ultra casual take. In the first half....all of maxey's points came from open shots. Which were by design and given to him by our defense. And maxey was getting roasted by switches onto barnes.

But "derrr ball goes in derrr ball doesnt go in" casuals dont know about any of that. Maxey had a hot shooting night. And then in the third he scored 3 or 4 times off of penetration.

In case noone noticed....the raps have been turning third option scorers into primary scorers all season.

Maxey was hitting open 3s AND penetrating at will both. It's what makes him dangerous compared to deadly shooters who aren't a threat when they get run off the line.

He may be not quite as hot from 3 next game and
still hurt us. He played well last game too, not like tonight for sure but we'll. It's Tobias who really improved over last league game, he was terrible that night and very good tonight. He's the one I don't expect to duplicate tonight again

Show me his penetration bucket from the first half. He was OPEN. He wasn't covered.

Maybe you'll be happy if we shut down maxey and embiid/harden combine for 70 points. But i doubt it.

I didn't even watch the game and it's abundantly obvious what our gameplan was. I don't understand how Walt can miss it or maybe he's just blatantly ignoring it because it doesn't fit his narrative?

Tobias and Maxey shot 23/35. Embiid and Harden shot 11/32.

What do you think happened here Walt?

[RedVanVleet]

Maxey was hitting open 3s AND penetrating at will both. It's what makes him dangerous compared to deadly shooters who aren't a threat when they get run off the line.

He may be not quite as hot from 3 next game and
still hurt us. He played well last game too, not like tonight for sure but we'll. It's Tobias who really improved over last league game, he was terrible that night and very good tonight. He's the one I don't expect to duplicate tonight again

Show me his penetration bucket from the first half. He was OPEN. He wasn't covered.

Maybe you'll be happy if we shut down maxey and embiid/harden combine for 70 points. But i doubt it.

I didn't even watch the game and it's abundantly obvious what our gameplan was. I don't understand how Walt can miss it or maybe he's just blatantly ignoring it because it doesn't fit his narrative?

Tobias and Maxey shot 23/35. Embiid and Harden shot 11/32.

What do you think happened here Walt?

Maxey cooked us. Not because we left him open. He cooked us. It wont happen again so lets not get too down here. Thats why we play the games.

[mdenny]

Maxey was hitting open 3s AND penetrating at will both. It's what makes him dangerous compared to deadly shooters who aren't a threat when they get run off the line.

He may be not quite as hot from 3 next game and
still hurt us. He played well last game too, not like tonight for sure but we'll. It's Tobias who really improved over last league game, he was terrible that night and very good tonight. He's the one I don't expect to duplicate tonight again

Show me his penetration bucket from the first half. He was OPEN. He wasn't covered.

Maybe you'll be happy if we shut down maxey and embiid/harden combine for 70 points. But i doubt it.

I didn't even watch the game and it's abundantly obvious what our gameplan was. I don't understand how Walt can miss it or maybe he's just blatantly ignoring it because it doesn't fit his narrative?

Tobias and Maxey shot 23/35. Embiid and Harden shot 11/32.

What do you think happened here Walt?

I just watched the hilites. Maxey penetrated through coverage and scored 4 times for 9 points (an and 1)

Hardly penetrating "at will". All his other points he was being helped off of/was open or came off a break. I mean....he really didnt even handle the ball much. These guys talking like he was trae young or something.

[Los_29]

Show me his penetration bucket from the first half. He was OPEN. He wasn't covered.

Maybe you'll be happy if we shut down maxey and embiid/harden combine for 70 points. But i doubt it.

I didn't even watch the game and it's abundantly obvious what our gameplan was. I don't understand how Walt can miss it or maybe he's just blatantly ignoring it because it doesn't fit his narrative?

Tobias and Maxey shot 23/35. Embiid and Harden shot 11/32.

What do you think happened here Walt?

Maxey cooked us. Not because we left him open. He cooked us. It wont happen again so lets not get too down here. Thats why we play the games.

I saw a lot of wide open shots in his highlight reel.

[Pooh_Jeter]

There is a reason I was so adamant that not acquiring Maxey when we had the chance was a mistake. Tonight he showed that he is one of the brightest young players in the league. A lot of people with personal agendas first wanted to say he wasnt available and then that he is a dime a dozen player. It's too bad we can't have an honest discourse.

[Los_29]

Despite Maxey's great game where he shot an unsustainable 66% from the field, Morey still made an awful mistake not trading Maxey for Lowry. It actually cost him a championship. I'm sure he would prefer to have a championship and no Maxey as opposed to Maxey and no championship. Morey's incompetence benefitted us though because we got Precious who has the higher ceiling.

[Steelo Green]

Despite Maxey's great game where he shot an unsustainable 66% from the field, Morey still made an awful mistake not trading Maxey for Lowry. It actually cost him a championship. I'm sure he would prefer to have a championship and no Maxey as opposed to Maxey and no championship. Morey's incompetence benefitted us though because we got Precious who has the higher ceiling.

Maxey almost scored 40 points as a sophomore.

I doubt Precious even scores 30 in his playoff career.

[Mehar]

That guy is a Philly beat writer. LOL.

He reported what Windhorst was reporting at the time about the Lowry demands. Windhorst is a reputable guy. He is not a guy like Doug Smith or other mediocre members of the press.

Can you provide a link to when Windhorst said this?

Look for a link yourself. It was March of 2021. The tweet I posted about the Philly writer mentioning about what Windhorst had mentioned was correct. Windhorst had come on air during some segment on ESPN I was watching and had mentioned Raptors and Philly were close, but Masai upped the demands when deal was close to the 10 yard line. Masai raised the ante and wanted both Maxey and Thybulle, along with two first rounders. There was a third team involved also, and Danny Green was heading back to Toronto for cap reasons. That really tells me that Masai did not want Lowry going to Philly for some reason. Morey was correct to turn down Masai's demands of 2 first round picks, and Maxey and Thybulle.

[Steelo Green]

He reported what Windhorst was reporting at the time about the Lowry demands. Windhorst is a reputable guy. He is not a guy like Doug Smith or other mediocre members of the press.

Can you provide a link to when Windhorst said this?

Look for a link yourself. It was March of 2021. The tweet I posted about the Philly writer mentioning about what Windhorst had mentioned was correct. Windhorst had come on air during some segment on ESPN I was watching and had mentioned Raptors and Philly were close, but Masai upped the demands when deal was close to the 10 yard line. Masai raised the ante and wanted both Maxey and Thybulle, along with two first rounders. There was a third team involved also, and Danny Green was heading back to Toronto for cap reasons. That really tells me that Masai did not want Lowry going to Philly for some reason. Morey was correct to turn down Masai's demands of 2 first round picks, and Maxey and Thybulle.

I was going to say - Windy himself at the time said Maxey was enough but we wanted way more and now he’s switching the story.

[RedVanVleet]

I didn't even watch the game and it's abundantly obvious what our gameplan was. I don't understand how Walt can miss it or maybe he's just blatantly ignoring it because it doesn't fit his narrative?

Tobias and Maxey shot 23/35. Embiid and Harden shot 11/32.

What do you think happened here Walt?

Maxey cooked us. Not because we left him open. He cooked us. It wont happen again so lets not get too down here. Thats why we play the games.

I saw a lot of wide open shots in his highlight reel.

He almost had 40 points...

[Los_29]

He reported what Windhorst was reporting at the time about the Lowry demands. Windhorst is a reputable guy. He is not a guy like Doug Smith or other mediocre members of the press.

Can you provide a link to when Windhorst said this?

Look for a link yourself. It was March of 2021. The tweet I posted about the Philly writer mentioning about what Windhorst had mentioned was correct. Windhorst had come on air during some segment on ESPN I was watching and had mentioned Raptors and Philly were close, but Masai upped the demands when deal was close to the 10 yard line. Masai raised the ante and wanted both Maxey and Thybulle, along with two first rounders. There was a third team involved also, and Danny Green was heading back to Toronto for cap reasons. That really tells me that Masai did not want Lowry going to Philly for some reason. Morey was correct to turn down Masai's demands of 2 first round picks, and Maxey and Thybulle.

I don’t think you realize how this works. If you’re going to make a claim then you need to be able to support it.

Who was this third team by the way?

It’s really bizarre what people believe in on here.

[Live Free]

Maxey cooked us. Not because we left him open. He cooked us. It wont happen again so lets not get too down here. Thats why we play the games.

I saw a lot of wide open shots in his highlight reel.

He almost had 40 points...

[Los_29]

Maxey cooked us. Not because we left him open. He cooked us. It wont happen again so lets not get too down here. Thats why we play the games.

I saw a lot of wide open shots in his highlight reel.

He almost had 40 points...

I honestly don’t get your point.

[Los_29]

And what’s lost in this thread is that people were claiming Maxey was on the table but Windhorst comes out today saying he wasn’t.

In terms of Maxey and Precious. Miami drafted Precious over Maxey. They are among the best drafting teams in the league. If you look at the kind of tools that GM’s covet in young players, Precious ticks many of those boxes. GM’s will always go with a guy who is tall, long, freakishly athletic, can handle the ball, shoot the three and defend at a high level.

His ceiling is higher than Maxey’s. That is undeniable. What we don’t know is if he can reach that ceiling. It’s a risk that every GM in this league will take. No one cares about who the better player is now. We’ll look in 3 years.

[PerfectJab]

Maxey was hitting open 3s AND penetrating at will both. It's what makes him dangerous compared to deadly shooters who aren't a threat when they get run off the line.

He may be not quite as hot from 3 next game and
still hurt us. He played well last game too, not like tonight for sure but we'll. It's Tobias who really improved over last league game, he was terrible that night and very good tonight. He's the one I don't expect to duplicate tonight again

Show me his penetration bucket from the first half. He was OPEN. He wasn't covered.

Maybe you'll be happy if we shut down maxey and embiid/harden combine for 70 points. But i doubt it.

I didn't even watch the game and it's abundantly obvious what our gameplan was. I don't understand how Walt can miss it or maybe he's just blatantly ignoring it because it doesn't fit his narrative?

Tobias and Maxey shot 23/35. Embiid and Harden shot 11/32.

What do you think happened here Walt?

Maxey had fake points. As the 3rd option the top 2 didn't score efficiently so he had the most FGA out of his entire team and shot 14-21 from the field. What a terrible job he did stepping it up for his team. Lack of potential... terrible team player. Really shows his inability to take advantage of his shots. Forget that he had the highest +/- as well, that doesn't mean anything.

On the flipside Precious was guarded tightly (obviously because he's a 3 point sharpshooter and one of the most coveted players in the league) and really stepped it up as well.

Walt is right, give credit where credit is due. Forget about what could have, would have as that is BS opinion, not facts. Let's talk about the reality, he had a good game and really stepped it up. He was the biggest factor in helping his team win.

[Mehar]

Can you provide a link to when Windhorst said this?

Look for a link yourself. It was March of 2021. The tweet I posted about the Philly writer mentioning about what Windhorst had mentioned was correct. Windhorst had come on air during some segment on ESPN I was watching and had mentioned Raptors and Philly were close, but Masai upped the demands when deal was close to the 10 yard line. Masai raised the ante and wanted both Maxey and Thybulle, along with two first rounders. There was a third team involved also, and Danny Green was heading back to Toronto for cap reasons. That really tells me that Masai did not want Lowry going to Philly for some reason. Morey was correct to turn down Masai's demands of 2 first round picks, and Maxey and Thybulle.

I was going to say - Windy himself at the time said Maxey was enough but we wanted way more and now he’s switching the story.

I agree, the man seems confused, and maybe he forgot what he said previously. I watched a segment on ESPN where Windhorst was on the air in March 2021 before the trade deadline, where he mentioned that the Sixers were willing to part with Maxey for Lowry. However, Masai raised the stakes, and wanted 2 first round picks along with Thybulle as well. Danny Green was supposed to be shipped to Toronto as well in a three team deal to make salaries work, but after Masai wanted Thybulle also, Morey rejected that trade demand. Now, he is forgetting what he said on air at that time.

However, another well known NBA writer from Hoopshype/USA Today Michael Scotto had also reported at the time what Windhorst himself had said on air- Maxey was available in a package for Lowry, but the sticking point was Thybulle, since Masai wanted them both. Philly rejected that deal.

Report: Tyrese Maxey Among Available Assets in 76ers Offer for Kyle Lowry
https://www.si.com/nba/raptors/news/toronto-raptors-trade-talks-philadelphia-76ers-tyrese-maxey-for-kyle-lowry

[ash_k]

all those chatters about Maxey...I thought we wanted to go the 6'8/"Long boi" route?!:
It would have been impossible to fit FVV/Maxey and GTj on the same court.
Even today, I would pick 6'8 Precious over Maxey with everything I have seen. Precious has next level athleticism with a combination of power&strength(and quickness) like that missed dunk showed.

I had not realized Maxey had near John Wall type of acceleration

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Those still don't think that Maxey is allstar calibre?

High end role player for sure at the moment. All star… no. Just one game lol

You’re salty as ****. He is a 2nd year player. Give props where they are due. He’s cooking Fred, one of the best defenders in the league.


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Salty? He has to do this over the course of an entire first half of a season to be considered an all star. Which he hasn’t.

FVV hasn’t been one of the best defenders for quite some time now this season. His entire second half of the season has been quite unspectacular.

[sca]

And what’s lost in this thread is that people were claiming Maxey was on the table but Windhorst comes out today saying he wasn’t.

In terms of Maxey and Precious. Miami drafted Precious over Maxey. They are among the best drafting teams in the league. If you look at the kind of tools that GM’s covet in young players, Precious ticks many of those boxes. GM’s will always go with a guy who is tall, long, freakishly athletic, can handle the ball, shoot the three and defend at a high level.

His ceiling is higher than Maxey’s. That is undeniable. What we don’t know is if he can reach that ceiling. It’s a risk that every GM in this league will take. No one cares about who the better player is now. We’ll look in 3 years.

We drafted Flynn over Bane, what’s your point?

The Heat drafted Justise Winslow over Devin Booker. Would that make Winslow’s ceiling higher than him?

Just take the L, dude, it’s not that hard. Admit that Maxey is a better player than Achiuwa.

[kj_]

There is a reason I was so adamant that not acquiring Maxey when we had the chance was a mistake. Tonight he showed that he is one of the brightest young players in the league. A lot of people with personal agendas first wanted to say he wasnt available and then that he is a dime a dozen player. It's too bad we can't have an honest discourse.

Poo, Right on cue.

Maxey was available and Masai declined. Lol


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