[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy
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Rather see FVV trade rumours instead.
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I think it was Hollinger who said it, but a team would call them to ask about a player, they'd have some discussions because everyone is available for the right offer, but nothing serious would come of it, but then days later he'd see reports in the media about the player they discussed being available.
I can almost guarantee that's what's happening here.
I'm sure Masai would trade anyone for the right price but I wouldn't hold my breath regarding an OG deal this offseason.
I can almost guarantee that's what's happening here.
I'm sure Masai would trade anyone for the right price but I wouldn't hold my breath regarding an OG deal this offseason.
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OG for Hart + 7 + another first. 7 just isn't enough.

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Steelo Green wrote:Weird people discrediting Fischer for every mistake and ignoring all he got right.
He was right with a lot not just with us but the coaching staff as well as the Nets.
I guess it’s more important to believe Raptors don’t leak like when Kawhi was predicted to come here two weeks before it happened…
Fischer himself says this is mostly speculation in this very report

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OG for a first round pick and good player?
I'll drive him to the airport myself.
I'll drive him to the airport myself.
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dgr81 wrote:OG for a first round pick and good player?
I'll drive him to the airport myself.
If we're talking Josh Hart, you have low standards. OG is player-type that every single team in the league is looking for.
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bon wrote:Steelo Green wrote:Weird people discrediting Fischer for every mistake and ignoring all he got right.
He was right with a lot not just with us but the coaching staff as well as the Nets.
I guess it’s more important to believe Raptors don’t leak like when Kawhi was predicted to come here two weeks before it happened…
Fischer himself says this is mostly speculation in this very report
In fact, he says it's *purely* speculation in his own article.

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Steelo Green wrote:Weird people discrediting Fischer for every mistake and ignoring all he got right.
He was right with a lot not just with us but the coaching staff as well as the Nets.
I guess it’s more important to believe Raptors don’t leak like when Kawhi was predicted to come here two weeks before it happened…
Two sources with knowledge of the dynamic told B/R that Anunoby has not directly expressed discontent with his situation with the Raptors. Perhaps the conversation around him has been driven more by external interest in acquiring the fifth-year forward's services
So then the leak from the Raptors would be that OG has not directly expressed discontent with his situation?
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OakleyDokely wrote:I think it was Hollinger who said it, but a team would call them to ask about a player, they'd have some discussions because everyone is available for the right offer, but nothing serious would come of it, but then days later he'd see reports in the media about the player they discussed being available.
I can almost guarantee that's what's happening here.
I'm sure Masai would trade anyone for the right price but I wouldn't hold my breath regarding an OG deal this offseason.
In this article it states that Masai has told everyone that the top 6 are untouchable. This sounds more like teams that are trying to negotiate through the media.
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Kreamy wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:This is all pure speculation from the way it's written and its bleacher report.Kreamy wrote:Josh Hart and #7 for OG should be an easy yes for us. I hope we're not overrating our talent.
Who at 7 is projected to be clearly better than OG? This isn't a great draft at the top, it's flat and deep.
Dyson Daniels for me if he's there at 7. I think he has potential to be a Shai-Gilgeous type. But one of Sharpe, Mathurin, Griffin or Murray could be options as well.
Hart is nothing to scoff at himself. Plays multiple positions, shoots the 3 and just turned 27.
I'd be tempted with that offer if Mark Williams is on the board there at 7.
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Johnny Bball wrote:This is all pure speculation from the way it's written and its bleacher report.Kreamy wrote:Josh Hart and #7 for OG should be an easy yes for us. I hope we're not overrating our talent.
Who at 7 is projected to be clearly better than OG? This isn't a great draft at the top, it's flat and deep. And there's so much variability in mocks that you see a guy like Daniels anywhere from +-10-24 that I don't know where he goes and if there's going to be lots of picks that look like a reach.
Oh... and Josh Hart expires with FVV and GTJ so that ain't good.
I guess it depends who Masai likes. If he likes a guy at 7 i think Hart/7 is eaasy
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Portland has a newbie GM and is lookign to make moves to satisfy Dame. OG is a perfect target because they kill 2 birds with 1 stone. OG is a young player but also can play alongside Dame and fits his timeline.
Wouldnt be surprised if POR leaked this.
Do I think OG is unhappy in TOR? No.
Do I think Toronto has to make a decision on OG and Trent? Yes.
OG is too valuable just for 7th pick and Masai probably laughed at them which is what sparked this leak. We need to keep getting more OG's not take away.
Wouldnt be surprised if POR leaked this.
Do I think OG is unhappy in TOR? No.
Do I think Toronto has to make a decision on OG and Trent? Yes.
OG is too valuable just for 7th pick and Masai probably laughed at them which is what sparked this leak. We need to keep getting more OG's not take away.
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If the offer is Hart + 7, I counter with an additional unprotected or maybe top 4 protected 1st rounder, or a swap or two, or no deal. We can send back this year's 2nd as compensation to finalize.
Yes the price is high, but I don't see why the Raptors would rush to move OG right now. You want him? You pay.
Portland is desperate, the entire league knows it. I just don't understand the moves they've been making up to this point, if their intention is to trade for a guy like OG. Sure, he works very well with Dame and Simons, but those guys + Nurk are probably a play-in team, depending what they do with their cap space/TPE.
If the deal is for 4+salary, I'd have to think a deal is much more likely.
Yes the price is high, but I don't see why the Raptors would rush to move OG right now. You want him? You pay.
Portland is desperate, the entire league knows it. I just don't understand the moves they've been making up to this point, if their intention is to trade for a guy like OG. Sure, he works very well with Dame and Simons, but those guys + Nurk are probably a play-in team, depending what they do with their cap space/TPE.
If the deal is for 4+salary, I'd have to think a deal is much more likely.

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How I'd rank the Raptors assets:
1. Barnes - ROY with the potential be a perennial all-star.
2. Siakam - An all-nba player for the second time in his career and a quality defender whose also already proven he can be a top 2/3 option on a title team.
3. OG - One of the best, most versatile defenders in the league, hits 3s on volume, young and on a great contract.
4. Precious - a young 3+D big on a rookie scale contract for the next two years.
5. VanVleet - A consistent performer who'd be a quality starter on pretty much every team, but he's a UFA after next season.
6. GTJ - good shooter, solid defender, quality starter, but he's a UFA after next season.
1. Barnes - ROY with the potential be a perennial all-star.
2. Siakam - An all-nba player for the second time in his career and a quality defender whose also already proven he can be a top 2/3 option on a title team.
3. OG - One of the best, most versatile defenders in the league, hits 3s on volume, young and on a great contract.
4. Precious - a young 3+D big on a rookie scale contract for the next two years.
5. VanVleet - A consistent performer who'd be a quality starter on pretty much every team, but he's a UFA after next season.
6. GTJ - good shooter, solid defender, quality starter, but he's a UFA after next season.
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Few thoughts:
1. Yes I do believe the "leak" in this particular scenario would be coming from POR & Utah's end for obvious reasons that both of the teams are desperate to improve. POR wanted Grant and OG is younger, more upside and better defender. Utah just needs more talent in general but Gobert is horribly overpaid and would require us gutting a lot more than OG to get it done and I doubt they're flipping Mitchell for him. Personally I don't think we're trading OG and the only name I'd be willing to move him for would be Sharpe.
2. I don't believe we leaked and jeopardized souring a relationship with OG buuuut doesn't mean we don't (period). Pretty much everything from wanting to draft Scottie, to trying to trade for Kawhi, Gasol, Ibaka, PJ Tucker and heck shopping Lowry who then got S&T over the summer all leaked, I'm sorry but at least one or two of those came from us
3. People need to stop mentioning trading Fred, not that I'm opposed to it...I'm not at all. He'd probably top my list because you're talking about a very undersized guard who is starting to have a bunch of injuries to his lower body and in particular his HIP which is scary...remember another miniture guard with hip problems *ahem IT, obv was never the same and personally I just don't think Fred will be worth the $25-30M he's gonna ask for. If they can flip him, yes I hope they would but I don't believe he will because him and Pascal are acting as the "young vets", I'm sure the idea is for them to be the next "Kyle/DeMar" to set the culture in the lockerroom etc so I don't see him going anywhere
4. Gary would/is the most likely piece to be moved but he's not getting you POR's pick lol Gary's dad already burnt those bridges making public how unhappy he was there and Simons is already ascending to take CJ's spot. Being that he essentially only has a year left since he'll more than likely opt out, the team he goes to will need to know they'll likely retain him....and I think his actual value would be a pick somewhere between 11-18. Sounds far down but it depends which players are available then but personally I think if you can nab any of Daniels, Jalen WIlliams (my fav), Hardy, Dieng or Eason (I'm certain at least one or two would be available) then you should be happy with it for a guy you weren't likely to retain without going into the luxury tax/repeaters tax for. All of NYK, CLE and CHI all make perfect sense as landing spots for him. A deal for Gary in this range is all I'm really hoping for at this point.
1. Yes I do believe the "leak" in this particular scenario would be coming from POR & Utah's end for obvious reasons that both of the teams are desperate to improve. POR wanted Grant and OG is younger, more upside and better defender. Utah just needs more talent in general but Gobert is horribly overpaid and would require us gutting a lot more than OG to get it done and I doubt they're flipping Mitchell for him. Personally I don't think we're trading OG and the only name I'd be willing to move him for would be Sharpe.
2. I don't believe we leaked and jeopardized souring a relationship with OG buuuut doesn't mean we don't (period). Pretty much everything from wanting to draft Scottie, to trying to trade for Kawhi, Gasol, Ibaka, PJ Tucker and heck shopping Lowry who then got S&T over the summer all leaked, I'm sorry but at least one or two of those came from us
3. People need to stop mentioning trading Fred, not that I'm opposed to it...I'm not at all. He'd probably top my list because you're talking about a very undersized guard who is starting to have a bunch of injuries to his lower body and in particular his HIP which is scary...remember another miniture guard with hip problems *ahem IT, obv was never the same and personally I just don't think Fred will be worth the $25-30M he's gonna ask for. If they can flip him, yes I hope they would but I don't believe he will because him and Pascal are acting as the "young vets", I'm sure the idea is for them to be the next "Kyle/DeMar" to set the culture in the lockerroom etc so I don't see him going anywhere
4. Gary would/is the most likely piece to be moved but he's not getting you POR's pick lol Gary's dad already burnt those bridges making public how unhappy he was there and Simons is already ascending to take CJ's spot. Being that he essentially only has a year left since he'll more than likely opt out, the team he goes to will need to know they'll likely retain him....and I think his actual value would be a pick somewhere between 11-18. Sounds far down but it depends which players are available then but personally I think if you can nab any of Daniels, Jalen WIlliams (my fav), Hardy, Dieng or Eason (I'm certain at least one or two would be available) then you should be happy with it for a guy you weren't likely to retain without going into the luxury tax/repeaters tax for. All of NYK, CLE and CHI all make perfect sense as landing spots for him. A deal for Gary in this range is all I'm really hoping for at this point.
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I'll say this, you keep Ogugua if the goal is to have Scottish Barnes be the PG, and have a swiss-army knife starting 5 where all 5 are 6'5'' and above. Frederick VanVleet would seem to be the odd man out in that scenario.
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ontnut wrote:If the offer is Hart + 7, I counter with an additional unprotected or maybe top 4 protected 1st rounder, or a swap or two, or no deal. We can send back this year's 2nd as compensation to finalize.
Yes the price is high, but I don't see why the Raptors would rush to move OG right now. You want him? You pay.
Portland is desperate, the entire league knows it. I just don't understand the moves they've been making up to this point, if their intention is to trade for a guy like OG. Sure, he works very well with Dame and Simons, but those guys + Nurk are probably a play-in team, depending what they do with their cap space/TPE.
portland owes a lotto protected pick to chicago, protected till 2028
portland owns mil 2025 pick, top4 protected.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
2023 first round draft pick to Chicago
Portland's 1st round pick to Chicago protected for selections 1-14 in 2023, 1-14 in 2024, 1-14 in 2025, 1-14 in 2026, 1-14 in 2027 and 1-14 in 2028; if Portland has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Chicago by 2028, then Portland will instead convey its 2028 2nd round pick to Chicago
Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selections 5-30 or to Portland (via New Orleans) protected for selections 1-4 (Milwaukee's obligation to New Orleans or Portland will thereafter be extinguished)
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