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ESPN 2022 player rankings(Pascal #30 FVV #38 Scottie #39)

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Re: ESPN 2022 player rankings(Pascal #30 FVV #38 Scottie #39) 

Post#121 » by Live Free » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:14 pm

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Live Free wrote:I get this is the raptors board but holy smokes the Homers are lined up in single file here.

Most of you agree Pascal isn't a #1 option yet you're here arguing he's top 15 :lol: borderline moronic

Buddy hasn't even gotten outta the first round since taking the franchise over. Let's focus on that first.


The Raptors went to the 2nd round after the championship year.


Yea with Kyle still on the team... and let's not get into what kind of series Pascal had vs the Celtics..
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Re: ESPN 2022 player rankings(Pascal #30 FVV #38 Scottie #39) 

Post#122 » by HomieOmey » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:47 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:This ranking is about who is the best player this year, correct?

which of these guys do you think will be better than Pascal Siakam as a two-way player this year?

#25 Ant Edwards
#24 Donovan Mitchell
#23 Bam Adebayo
#22 Jaylen Brown
Chris Paul
Anthony Davis
Bradley Beal
Rudy Gobert
Jimmy Butler
Trae Young
Paul George
Lillard
KAT
Kawhi
#11 Harden

5 or 6 of them? Maybe less? I'd bet on only a few of them being definitely better this year, and the reality is that Pascal in his prime could end up having a better season than any of them. Ridiculous disrespect but i only care that Pascal wakes them up.


I could easily imagine Siakam having a better year than anyone on that list. I could also easily imagine pretty much every one on there - other than Gobert - having a better season than Siakam. There's quite a few names on that list I like Siakam more than, but there's also a few guys that if traded for Siakam straight up I'd actually bet on them having a better year for us than Siakam for his new team.
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Re: ESPN 2022 player rankings(Pascal #30 FVV #38 Scottie #39) 

Post#123 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:28 pm

Live Free wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:
Live Free wrote:I get this is the raptors board but holy smokes the Homers are lined up in single file here.

Most of you agree Pascal isn't a #1 option yet you're here arguing he's top 15 :lol: borderline moronic

Buddy hasn't even gotten outta the first round since taking the franchise over. Let's focus on that first.


The Raptors went to the 2nd round after the championship year.


Yea with Kyle still on the team... and let's not get into what kind of series Pascal had vs the Celtics..


There's only been one season without Kyle and in that season the Raps overachieved with Siakam making all-nba and posting 23/7/6, 48 FG% in the playoffs.
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Re: ESPN 2022 player rankings(Pascal #30 FVV #38 Scottie #39) 

Post#124 » by Ell Curry » Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:00 pm

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Ell Curry wrote:Is Booker over Curry a bit?

Freddy is a weird one because he's probably a top 15 regular season player (assuming he's fully healthy now) but like a top 45 playoff game, because tiny guards who set the tone defensively but can't create for themselves are way more valuable in the regular season. Same reason Mike Conley graded out on EPM as the 23rd best player in the league and Pat Beverly at 68th, but nobody would have them ranked nearly that high for the playoffs. Also same reason Lowry was a consistent top 10 player during the Demar years but certainly not a top 10 guy in the playoffs. On the other hand, OG is probably a better playoff guy than regular season guy, even being dreadful in ISO scoring.


Nah, Freddy ain't a top 15 regular season player even when healthy.


#11 on 538, #19 in Estimated Wins by the EPM guys. 31st in EPM.

He was top 5 on 538 for most of the season before his injury. The regular season is weird, and hitting 3s, passing the ball well and being very good on D was enough for Lowry to grade out similarly.
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Re: ESPN 2022 player rankings(Pascal #30 FVV #38 Scottie #39) 

Post#125 » by Drakeem » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:25 am

I don't... see anything wrong with the rankings? Maybe a Pascal could be top 25, FVV closer to 30 but by and large, they're still not there.
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