Pascal is on the brink of SUPERSTARDOM...

[Chandan]

what a last shot over Gabe Vincent. Those are the shots he has to take (and make) more of. Slashing to the basket is good and all, but if you can't consistently throw it down like Giannas, or mvoe opponent out of the paint with his hang time like Lebron, (or be protected in the paint by the officials) a reliable off the bounce jumper is necessary to become a true #1 option.

I'd like to see Siakam emulate KD offensive game more since he's closest in terms of length and fluidity. He's a bit slower but KD's a unicorn in his own right.

[Gold Dragon]

Over the the last decade, these are the only players to win a title as the #1 option:

Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Curry
Durant

It's a very small and elite list. All these guys will end up top 20 players of all-time. Kawhi is borderline, but only because of his health.

Can Siakam reach this level? Probably not, very few very players in history ever reach this level. But can he be in the next group of players of really good #1s and/or elite #2s, he absolutely can and he's played at that level since the start of 2022.

That is the list of superstars. Can count them on one hand. Anyone else is a tier below.

So being in the tier below those guys, pascal is on the brink, right? At least until he leads us far in the playoffs which some folks feel is impossible.

Being able to say something is possible after it happens doesn’t really show much insight. (I’m just making a rhetorical statement and not directing this at any of the folks I’m responding to)

[HiJiNX]

lol what a jinx thread.

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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9 points, 4 assists, +13 in the 4th Q.

Stellar stellar second half performance. He dominated. Best player on the floor again. Most impressive to me was his defence. What a game.

[gp2015]

Bad first half. Good second half.

Doesn't make him any closer to being a superstar though. Way too early.

[Scott Hall]

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[LBJKB24MJ23]

lol what a jinx thread.

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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i didn't expect that from him considering the way his shot looked like and the lack of passing/ setting up plays up at the point of posting. great recovery to settle in.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Over the the last decade, these are the only players to win a title as the #1 option:

Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Curry
Durant

It's a very small and elite list. All these guys will end up top 20 players of all-time. Kawhi is borderline, but only because of his health.

Can Siakam reach this level? Probably not, very few very players in history ever reach this level. But can he be in the next group of players of really good #1s and/or elite #2s, he absolutely can and he's played at that level since the start of 2022.

That is the list of superstars. Can count them on one hand. Anyone else is a tier below.

So being in the tier below those guys, pascal is on the brink, right? At least until he leads us far in the playoffs which some folks feel is impossible.

Being able to say something is possible after it happens doesn’t really show much insight. (I’m just making a rhetorical statement and not directing this at any of the folks I’m responding to)

until it happens. so yes, Pascal has flirted with it. so far so good in the 2022-23 season.

[KINGTHANOS]

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[hyper316]

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[PoundTown]

lol what a jinx thread.

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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i didn't expect that from him considering the way his shot looked like and the lack of passing/ setting up plays up at the point of posting. great recovery to settle in.

Gary came up big at the right time... what did he hit, like 3 3's in the 4th?... but, anyways, to your point, Pascal has become a true playmaker for others and gets the team as a whole a bunch of great open looks every game. His decision making this year so far has been basically perfect in how he's managing his offence for him and others. If he keeps this up, I'll be expecting 2nd team All NBA and a true top 15 player. Quite the player he's become.

[Gold Dragon]

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To be fair to Sid, this was from last season when half this forum and the Raptor fanbase as a whole was trying to trade Pascal for underwhelming packages like the Warriors deal.

Of course even if I was that desperate to get rid of Pascal, which I wasn't, I would never have wanted Simmons as a return. This is coming from an Australian who loves pass first defensive players.

[StopitLeo]

When you put up 23/9/6 with 2 blocks and 2 steals on a night where offence was hard to come by for both teams, that's pretty damn good. I have a feeling people are going to focus on the 5 TOV while ignoring Siakam was setting up GTJ for wide open threes that he was bricking most of the game in addition to Achiuwa blowing a couple of shots in close off of plays by Siakam.

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i didn't expect that from him considering the way his shot looked like and the lack of passing/ setting up plays up at the point of posting. great recovery to settle in.

Gary came up big at the right time... what did he hit, like 3 3's in the 4th?... but, anyways, to your point, Pascal has become a true playmaker for others and gets the team as a whole a bunch of great open looks every game. His decision making this year so far has been basically perfect in how he's managing his offence for him and others. If he keeps this up, I'll be expecting 2nd team All NBA and a true top 15 player. Quite the player he's become.

GTJ was 2/3 in Q4 but they were timely.

What I find impressive about Pascal’s playmaking last night is that 4 of his 6 assists came in Q4. For a guy who is our primary option it is a good sign that he is willing to give up the ball to a teammate in order to get a better shot rather than forcing the issue when the defense is all over him.

[Dino-Might]

Superstars have bad shooting nights sometimes as well. The key is that even when they have an off-night, they can still impact winning in a lot of other ways.

I thought Siakam showed that in this Heat's game. He wasn't have a good shooting night but he still was great defensively and was able to come through in the clutch. If his bad night is 23, 9 and 6, that is a superstar.

[JB7]

Over the the last decade, these are the only players to win a title as the #1 option:

Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Curry
Durant

It's a very small and elite list. All these guys will end up top 20 players of all-time. Kawhi is borderline, but only because of his health.

Can Siakam reach this level? Probably not, very few very players in history ever reach this level. But can he be in the next group of players of really good #1s and/or elite #2s, he absolutely can and he's played at that level since the start of 2022.

That is the list of superstars. Can count them on one hand. Anyone else is a tier below.

So being in the tier below those guys, pascal is on the brink, right? At least until he leads us far in the playoffs which some folks feel is impossible.

Being able to say something is possible after it happens doesn’t really show much insight. (I’m just making a rhetorical statement and not directing this at any of the folks I’m responding to)

Some on the top 5 are going to age out and possibly be replaced by other superstars. In terms of being on the brink, do you think Siakam has a better chance of leading the Raps to a championship, than say Doncic leading the Mavs, Jokic leading the Nuggets, Tatum leading the Celtics or Morant leading the Griz to a championship?

Is Siakam on the brink. No. But at least he is starting to be thought of in that tier. Whether he is in that next tier yet, I don't think we have seen enough.

[lobosloboslobos]

Pascal is currently averaging 27/10/7/1/1.5

of the 15 guys averaging more points than him to date only 3 of them have comparable all around numbers, and he is a better defender than any of them:

Luka: 34/8/8/1.5/1
Lebron: 27/11/7/1/1
Harden: 27/9/10/1/1

[anotherhomer]

Pascal was a top 20-25 player and he's starting to hit the top 15.

It's amazing how he surpass anthony davis

[LiSTWithLani]

Siakam is averaging 28ppg/10rpg/7apg through 3 games vs. strong playoff teams (CLE, BKN, MIA) while shooting 53% from the field this season.

Now you might say "that's only a 3 game sample" but he's been putting up these exact numbers for quite some time now dating back to last season...

He averaged 27ppg/9rpg/6apg over the course of the last 20 games of last season, while shooting 52% from the field.



So all together we have a reliable 24 game sample to come to the conclusion that this is the new norm for Siakam. He's quite easily a top 15 player in the league (IMO) and only continues to get better.
It's also worth noting that 15 of his last 24 games (excluding the playoffs) came against playoff teams, so he's been putting up ELITE numbers against ELITE opposition.

These are MVP numbers folks. People laughed at this man when he said he wants to be a top 5 player. I can easily see him finishing the season as a top 10 player in the league.

There's no slowing him down. You can see a bit of a change in his demeanor this season as well.. from crossing his arms after splashing a 3 in the defenders face, as to say it's too easy for him, to yelling "I CAN DO THAT, I CAN DO THAT TOO" to the crowd after hitting some step back Js. We're only a couple games into the season but you can tell Pascal is brimming with confidence right now. He's on the verge of superstardom!

Something Rico during training camp really stood out to me, "Pascal is addicted to being great" and he also said something along the lines of Siakam being a MEAN player now. Rico knows Pascal better than anyone and if there's one man that isn't surprised with how Siakam has been performing, it's him.

Buckle up, this is gonna be one SPICY season. Siakam is on one!!!

TLDR: Siakam is averaging about 28ppg/10rpg/7apg over his last 24 teams (15 of which have come against playoff teams) while shooting nearly 53% from the field.



Scary hours indeed...

Firstly; fantastic post!

It's easy to get excited about this team. Top to bottom we have a lot of talent and an exciting style to watch.

Siakam really is growing before our eyes and if he continues to do so, the future is very bright!

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[LoveMyRaps]

Folks are paying attention to Siakam...

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They labelled him a top 10 player right now.

[PerfectJab]

Way too early to tell but I'm pretty sure the numbers will decrease over time.

Look at players with similar FGA and they're averaging over 30 a game, add the minutes and usage and he's not that efficient.

The numbers do look nice though when you don't break it down.

Great start though, let's see if he can stay consistent. Superstardom is a little bit of a stretch.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

"So all together we have a reliable 24 game sample to come to the conclusion"

You guys crack me up.