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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#121 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:11 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Well if OG wanted more touches, good luck with that on Phoenix with Booker.


Raptors aren't looking to make a move to make OG feel better lol
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#122 » by will » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:12 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Fvv will also be gone dont you worry


Will definitely be celebrating this :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#123 » by Psubs » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:12 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:I prefer the other cam and the knicks picks


I prefer the other other Cam, that isn't drafted yet.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#124 » by Brinbe » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:12 pm

would be sad to see him go. trade og and keep fred? =(
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#125 » by Revived » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:12 pm

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AbC? wrote:Can Johnson is 26, older than OG lmao. And he’s mediocre. If we’re moving OG I want a good YOUNG prospect and picks.


I wouldn't say he's mediocre. He's one of the best volume 3PT shooters in the league and a decent defender. Those types of players are valuable because they're portable. He also is limited just enough that no one will throw a bag at him this summer. I would want more, too, but the picks give you upside.


He looked below mediocre last night.

Yeah it’s a good thing one night doesn’t define a player otherwise LeBron James and Steph Curry could be acquired for 2nd rd picks after bad games they had.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#126 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:13 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Well if OG wanted more touches, good luck with that on Phoenix with Booker.


Raptors aren't looking to make a move to make OG feel better lol

CP3 will inflate OG's stats. Can't forget how CP gets guys raises.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#127 » by raptorstime » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:13 pm

Trading OG and extending Fred is truly my biggest nightmare.
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Post#128 » by JRoy » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:14 pm

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Jadoogar wrote:Suns, Grizzlies and Pelicans seem like the most likely candidates. They have the need and the assets to get it done. Grizzlies and Pelicans can offer the better rebuilding package where as Ayton would be a good "win-now" piece if we want to roll with the existing core.

Don’t count out Portland. They have the assets to get it done and have the need


I hope not.

POR is more than a high end roleplayer away from contention.

OG would be a great addition to NOP or MIA, but if he’s crying about not getting enough shots that won’t change in POR.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#129 » by PD28 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:14 pm

Will truly be weird to see OG play for another team but I think its time to make some changes. I hope we are looking to move Fred as well, but I doubt there will be as much interest for him.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#130 » by Ackshun » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:14 pm

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Ackshun wrote:Just as big as moving OG is, will be seeing if we are now on Pascal or Scottie timeline.

I mean in theory when Barnes is in year 4 or 5, Pascal would be a great complimentary piece at the age of 31, assuming Scottie becomes that great. Maybe the idea is to build around Pascal and Barnes, with shooting, defense and a good bench surrounding them + this years draft pick being the next piece.


Yeah true and tbh I’m more inclined to think that’s the route we go with regards to surrounding these two. But that would mean being “buyers” perhaps.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#131 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:14 pm

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AbC? wrote:Can Johnson is 26, older than OG lmao. And he’s mediocre. If we’re moving OG I want a good YOUNG prospect and picks.


I wouldn't say he's mediocre. He's one of the best volume 3PT shooters in the league and a decent defender. Those types of players are valuable because they're portable. He also is limited just enough that no one will throw a bag at him this summer. I would want more, too, but the picks give you upside.


He looked below mediocre last night.

Yes lets use one game as an example.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#132 » by canada_dry » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:15 pm

720 wrote:I’m gonna miss him man. Can’t believe we chose Mr.39 percent from field and 34 percent from three Vanvleet over him because that’s essentially what this came down to. Him wanting a bigger role, us prioritizing getting our “point guard” shots, giving him a bigger role. All for what? So he could let us down in the bubble, Tampa Season, and then last year’s collapse vs Philly? It’s a joke.
Thats absolutely not what it came down to.

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Post#133 » by MoneyBall » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:16 pm

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Yeezus_ wrote:Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

I really like Cam, there are a few things though that kind of make me hesitant. First, his long term health/durability.

Have you looked at OG’s long term health/durability?

I get that he's not Mr. Iron man himself but his injuries have mostly been flukie. Past appendicitis isn't indicative of anything in terms of long term health. A knee injury requiring surgery is a tad bit scarier.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#134 » by Revived » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:18 pm

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LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Well if OG wanted more touches, good luck with that on Phoenix with Booker.


Raptors aren't looking to make a move to make OG feel better lol

CP3 will inflate OG's stats. Can't forget how CP gets guys raises.

How many rings has CP3 gotten his guys?
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#135 » by NotMyKawhi » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:18 pm

OG didn't even play for a championship team, never gonna be an all-star, no handle.

Not the end of the world trading OG IMO he is what he is and we are tanking this year anyways
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#136 » by MoneyBall » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:19 pm

Maybe the Raptors can pull a Sean Marks and pretend like they're shopping OG but when no team matches the unreasonably high price we simply say "sorry OG, we tried".
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#137 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:19 pm

canada_dry wrote:
720 wrote:I’m gonna miss him man. Can’t believe we chose Mr.39 percent from field and 34 percent from three Vanvleet over him because that’s essentially what this came down to. Him wanting a bigger role, us prioritizing getting our “point guard” shots, giving him a bigger role. All for what? So he could let us down in the bubble, Tampa Season, and then last year’s collapse vs Philly? It’s a joke.
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kind of did, you kept him around knowing he would make sure to get his game off with the opportunities already stretched thin. The time to reconstruct the roster was in the offseason, by them sitting on their hands caused this domino to fall. Knowing the dude was already not happy about his opportunities the front office did nothing about the situation... the only thing they did was go to fred in the offseason and say we need you to play more off the ball in hoped that he would. Well here we are.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#138 » by Yeezus_ » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:19 pm

Ackshun wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:
Ackshun wrote:Just as big as moving OG is, will be seeing if we are now on Pascal or Scottie timeline.

I mean in theory when Barnes is in year 4 or 5, Pascal would be a great complimentary piece at the age of 31, assuming Scottie becomes that great. Maybe the idea is to build around Pascal and Barnes, with shooting, defense and a good bench surrounding them + this years draft pick being the next piece.


Yeah true and tbh I’m more inclined to think that’s the route we go with regards to surrounding these two. But that would mean being “buyers” perhaps.

I guess in a way they're buyers of young complimentary pieces to surround both, if thats the route they go. Tbh, surrounding both with Cam and Trent jr is already an improvement on the offensive end. We need guys who are solid defensively but can shoot the 3 at a high rate, which Cam & Trent essentially do (both 40% shooters on high volume). You then maybe look to trade Fred with some young players with upside who can fill out the bench for now. Thats probably the quickest way to rebuild the team while remaining competitive. But who knows, maybe they trade Siakam and tear it all down lol
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#139 » by mtcan » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:20 pm

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mtcan wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Raptors aren't looking to make a move to make OG feel better lol

CP3 will inflate OG's stats. Can't forget how CP gets guys raises.

How many rings has CP3 gotten his guys?

I am not talking about rings...but CP will get OG some easier looks and his numbers probably look better in Phoenix.
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Re: [Shams] - Raptors Now Taking Calls for OG 

Post#140 » by Swag » Tue Jan 31, 2023 7:21 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Swag wrote:Its makes no sense to move OG and keep Fred!!

vision 6"9 amirite?


With Fred here its vision 8/23

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