2023 Draft Discussion Part 4

Psubs · Post #121 » by **Psubs** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:37 pm

I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

Jadoogar · Post #122 » by **Jadoogar** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:43 pm

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

I think the comparison he has in the video is really good, looks like a PJ Washington type. Great role players, easy fit on most rosters.
Just too much overlap on our roster imo. He's a PF, maybe a small ball center similar to precious. He's just not going to differentiate himself here.

Psubs · Post #123 » by **Psubs** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:49 pm

Jadoogar wrote:
Psubs wrote:

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

I think the comparison he has in the video is really good, looks like a PJ Washington type. Great role players, easy fit on most rosters.
Just too much overlap on our roster imo. He's a PF, maybe a small ball center similar to precious. He's just not going to differentiate himself here.

I would trade Boucher and Precious for vet guards or wings that can shoot.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #124 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:12 pm

Psubs wrote:

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #125 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:26 pm

Cissoko could work but fit is a huge issue. I could see him compensating for the loss of Anunoby on the defensive side of the ball long term while bringing better ball handling and passing to the lineup.

If Masai doesn't take the concept of "fit" seriously this team will be doomed for years to come. It doesn't help that we still have no clue as to Scottie's true ceiling.

But Cissoko added to the group we currently have =

ATLTimekeeper · Post #126 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:29 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Cissoko could work but fit is a huge issue. I could see him compensating for the loss of Anunoby on the defensive side of the ball long term while bringing better ball handling and passing to the lineup.

If Masai doesn't take the concept of "fit" seriously this team will be doomed for years to come. It doesn't help that we still have no clue as to Scottie's true ceiling.

But Cissoko added to the group we currently have =

There's 5 spaces on the bench Cissoko can fit into just fine :lol:

dozo · Post #127 » by **dozo** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:37 pm

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George @13

Baylor: Guard, Freshman, 6-4)

Previous rank: 10 (-3)

Best rank: 6 (CBS Sports)

Worst rank: 15

Keyonte George is a combo guard who can create space off the dribble, score beyond the arc with stepback jumpers, and attack the paint off the dribble with the ability to draw fouls after ranking in the 94th percentile in free throw attempts (4.5), per CBB Analytics.

Defensively, NBA teams may look to attack him, given his size at 6-foot-4. Offensively, he’ll need to cut down on his turnovers and become more consistent as a shooter.

Among the comparisons George has drawn from NBA executives is former Sixth Man of the Year Eric Gordon.

Yallbecrazy · Post #128 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:43 pm

Psubs wrote:

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

Don't like the comparison as while not a good passer, his ast/to ratio wasn't nearly as bad as Precious'. He has a better bbiq and projects to be a better shooter, while being a worse rebounder and man on man defender.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #129 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:45 pm

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

I’m going with Jonathan Isaac plus vaccine

Psubs · Post #130 » by **Psubs** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:57 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Psubs wrote:

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

Don't like the comparison as while not a good passer, his ast/to ratio wasn't nearly as bad as Precious'. He has a better bbiq and projects to be a better shooter, while being a worse rebounder and man on man defender.

I kind of meant it as not the worst case scenario but a realistically low expectation of him.

ItsDanger · Post #131 » by **ItsDanger** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:00 pm

There is a rough top 10 consensus, but historically there will be a player that falls. It's only 3 spots so good chance they will have that option.

WuTang_CMB · Post #132 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:09 pm

dozo wrote:

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George @13

Baylor: Guard, Freshman, 6-4)

Previous rank: 10 (-3)

Best rank: 6 (CBS Sports)

Worst rank: 15

Keyonte George is a combo guard who can create space off the dribble, score beyond the arc with stepback jumpers, and attack the paint off the dribble with the ability to draw fouls after ranking in the 94th percentile in free throw attempts (4.5), per CBB Analytics.

Defensively, NBA teams may look to attack him, given his size at 6-foot-4. Offensively, he’ll need to cut down on his turnovers and become more consistent as a shooter.

Among the comparisons George has drawn from NBA executives is former Sixth Man of the Year Eric Gordon.

Jordan Hawkins is considered one of the top shooters, especially coming off screens, in this year’s draft and cracked the lottery for the first time in the aggregate mock draft.

“The NCAA Tournament was a coming-out party for him,” an NBA scout told HoopsHype. “I don’t think people realize how athletic he is. He can really get up. That’s part of why he gets his shot off so quickly. How he comes off screens is elite.”

Playing alongside Victor Wembanyama helped Bilal Coulibaly make a name for himself with NBA talent evaluators routinely on hand for their games.

After recently declaring for the draft, Coulibaly vaulted into the first round of the aggregate mock draft for the first time after consecutive finishes in the 40s in the past two editions.

Offensively, he can create off the dribble and get to the rim with capable finishing ability. Defensively, his athleticism and size offer upside as a two-way player as he rounds out his game with more experience. Improving his shooting and adding needed strength are needed areas of improvement.

Happy with either. Doubt Cason falls so happy with these two

Post #133 » by **niQ** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:17 pm

Slowly, but surely..

BoyzNTheHood · Post #134 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:29 pm

We need workout risers. I’m thinking guys like Coulibaly and Rupert will do that. Measurements wow people

grant101 · Post #135 » by **grant101** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:30 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Psubs wrote:

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I agree that he might top out as a Precious Achiuwa that can shoot the 3 above average.

I’m going with Jonathan Isaac plus vaccine

LOL! Sane Jonathan Isaac is an all-star!

Seriously though, they have similar frames and offensive limitations, but Isaac is a far better defender, and Taylor has a much nicer shot.

KL78192020 · Post #136 » by **KL78192020** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:37 pm

Whose gona bust in the top 10? If I had to pick anyone, I'll say the Thompson twins.

Yallbecrazy · Post #137 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:39 pm

ItsDanger wrote:There is a rough top 10 consensus, but historically there will be a player that falls. It's only 3 spots so good chance they will have that option.

https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/sweet-16-big-board
Does that fall in line with your consensus?

ArthurVandelay · Post #138 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:27 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:There is a rough top 10 consensus, but historically there will be a player that falls. It's only 3 spots so good chance they will have that option.

https://deanondraft.substack.com/p/sweet-16-big-board
Does that fall in line with your consensus?

His hard passes are all on my DND List

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #139 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:44 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Cissoko could work but fit is a huge issue. I could see him compensating for the loss of Anunoby on the defensive side of the ball long term while bringing better ball handling and passing to the lineup.

If Masai doesn't take the concept of "fit" seriously this team will be doomed for years to come. It doesn't help that we still have no clue as to Scottie's true ceiling.

But Cissoko added to the group we currently have =

There's 5 spaces on the bench Cissoko can fit into just fine

Short term anyone can fit onto a bench and he'd be back in the g-league anyway. My post was about long-term fit seeing as how he is not a natural scorer.

Lord_Zedd · Post #140 » by **Lord_Zedd** » Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:27 pm

dozo wrote:

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A nice portion of list consists of 2nd round UD free agents. If Julian Strawther falls into 2nd round I would consider trading for him. Mike Miles Jr, Ben Sheppard, and D'moi Hodge could help with the raptos guard depth

Other prospects I would like to sign as UD free agents.
DeVries
Lundy
Wong
Bates

This Podziemski guy seems like he should be way higher than his projected 2nd round status..... what am I missing with this guy?

Sure he'll be hunted on defense, but he looks like he can rebound the ball and actually knows what to do with the basketball other than trying to score.

Cason Wallace, the frenchmen, and now Podziemski are my top choices now.