2023 Draft Discussion Part 7 (Thurs June 22 @ 8pm)

ArthurVandelay · Post #121 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:21 pm

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ItsDanger · Post #122 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:25 pm

If teams are high on Coulibaly, they want Wemby to STFU.

Spates · Post #123 » by **Spates** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:35 pm

Olivier-Maxence Prosper isn't getting enough love generally or on this board.

ItsDanger · Post #124 » by **ItsDanger** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:38 pm

Spates wrote:Olivier-Maxence Prosper isn't getting enough love generally or on this board.

Well, from a Raps perspective, Prosper isn't in our range with only the #13 pick. I see him as a high end role/rotation player for many years. I'd bet Indiana takes him.

Bruin · Post #125 » by **Bruin** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:42 pm

Spates wrote:Olivier-Maxence Prosper isn't getting enough love generally or on this board.

I mentioned him on the last thread. I’d love to acquire another pick later in the 1st round to take him. I think he’s gonna have a solid career

WuTang_CMB · Post #126 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:52 pm

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gbball · Post #127 » by **gbball** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:55 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:

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Exactly how I feel.

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #128 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:58 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Good news

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That's what I've been saying is like... IMO OG can fit w Barnes so if someone wants him they have to blow us away. But with Pascal it's probably best to not resign him and to move on so there is a more incentive to moving him without looking to "win" the trade.

Spates · Post #129 » by **Spates** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:59 pm

I think we should trade OG for #7 and draft Olivier-Maxence Prosper and Nick Smith jr. Numbers aside, when I watch film of them they pop. Both are seriously engaged offensively and defensively. On offense the nature of their size/movement stresses their opponent and they profile as strong shooters. Good NBA athletes that play the right way. I'll bet on their upside over some high profile prospects that are incomplete players. It's an issue that often goes unsolved.

Range be damned. Those are my guys. I feel certain they'll be very solid NBA players. I'd take them at 7 and 13 and be done with it.

Son Goku 25 · Post #130 » by **Son Goku 25** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:01 pm

Sounds to me like raps want to keep OG because they really don't have a good reason to trade him away, he can be part of the team solution. Siakam should be on the trade block for sure, that's our best way to get multiple picks and prospects.

Syd-TK3 · Post #131 » by **Syd-TK3** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:18 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Sounds to me like raps want to keep OG because they really don't have a good reason to trade him away, he can be part of the team solution. Siakam should be on the trade block for sure, that's our best way to get multiple picks and prospects.

OG is a necessary player for either direction we choose. Siakam only fits one.

WuTang_CMB · Post #132 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:18 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Good news

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That's what I've been saying is like... IMO OG can fit w Barnes so if someone wants him they have to blow us away. But with Pascal it's probably best to not resign him and to move on so there is a more incentive to moving him without looking to "win" the trade.

We all said OG fits the timeline better and the defense and 3’s are as well. Just makes sense. Even poeltl for the next 4 years while koloko develops. You can roll with a front court of scottie-og-poeltl as long as the guard play SEVERELY improves.

Rapsfan07 · Post #133 » by **Rapsfan07** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:18 pm

HumbleRen wrote:I’m not as high on Miller as the rest of you guys.

I like Miller but I think he has higher bust potential than Scoot

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #134 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:19 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Good news

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?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

That's what I've been saying is like... IMO OG can fit w Barnes so if someone wants him they have to blow us away. But with Pascal it's probably best to not resign him and to move on so there is a more incentive to moving him without looking to "win" the trade.

We all said OG fits the timeline better and the defense and 3’s are as well. Just makes sense. Even poeltl for the next 4 years while koloko develops. You can roll with a front court of scottie-og-poeltl as long as the guard play SEVERELY improves.

Half the board wants Pascal to stay

Spates · Post #135 » by **Spates** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:29 pm

ItsDanger wrote:
Spates wrote:Olivier-Maxence Prosper isn't getting enough love generally or on this board.

Well, from a Raps perspective, Prosper isn't in our range with only the #13 pick. I see him as a high end role/rotation player for many years. I'd bet Indiana takes him.

High-end role players are an undervalued commodity in the NBA. Guys that can play within a team concept with strengths that you can build out from are important. Strengths allow for a specific area of developmental focus. Duncan Robinson was attacking closeouts in the playoffs, that's a huge development for an offense. Counters allow for continuity of flow and pressure.

I'd much rather acquire such talents than bet on someone that you have to give the ball because of their draft position, only to see their impact diminish at a higher level. There are dudes like Jalen Suggs in every draft.

WuTang_CMB · Post #136 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:38 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
That's what I've been saying is like... IMO OG can fit w Barnes so if someone wants him they have to blow us away. But with Pascal it's probably best to not resign him and to move on so there is a more incentive to moving him without looking to "win" the trade.

We all said OG fits the timeline better and the defense and 3’s are as well. Just makes sense. Even poeltl for the next 4 years while koloko develops. You can roll with a front court of scottie-og-poeltl as long as the guard play SEVERELY improves.

Half the board wants Pascal to stay

I’m talking about the people that actually understand our future and where we are going.

But im only moving Siakam if we get a great trade

REJECTEDBYCLARK · Post #137 » by **REJECTEDBYCLARK** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:42 pm

Michigan outscored opponents by 10.3 points per 100 possessions when Bufkin was on the floor, according to CBB Analytics. They were outscored by 14.0 points per 100 when he was not featured. That swing ranked fourth-best among all high-major players (minimum: 1,000 minutes) in 2022-23.

goinrogue · Post #138 » by **goinrogue** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:51 pm

Think you guys are sleeping on Nick Smith and Jett Howard. They both worked out for Toronto.

GoRapstheoriginal · Post #139 » by **GoRapstheoriginal** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:52 pm

4 more sleeps....(if your in Eastern time zone which is the best time zone hands down

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Thaddy · Post #140 » by **Thaddy** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 7:12 pm

Over analyzing Darko's statements in the Lou podcast I came away with 2 things:

- Trusting teammates even though they may miss open shots. This is something FVV wouldn't do. He's look guys off for the worst shot you can imagine.

- Being humble and realistic with a player's potential. OG wants a bigger role when he's the worst isolation scorer in the NBA.