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2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#121 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Apr 8, 2024 5:39 pm

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In terms of drafting him, I think the question is if we really want/need another 7th or 8th man? It seems like we got plenty of those now.




Remember people were saying this draft is weak? If we can get a 7th or 8th man who can have a long career in the league with the Pacers pick, it is a success.


Weak at the top, but deep with potential role players and possibly a hidden gem or two.

And I put Da Silva's potential as a 7th/8th man, not that he's guaranteed to get there. He could be a 9th/10th man depending on how his defense works out.

aminiaturebuddha wrote:I definitely see your points, but I guess we'll agree to disagree on da Silva. It's such a tough draft to figure out that some of it will come down to draft strategy. To be honest, given the kind of draft this is, I actually wouldn't be at all disappointed with a solid rotation piece 7th man at the Pacers pick. But maybe that's why I'm higher on a higher floor-lower ceiling guy like da Silva.


Well, my draft targets so far are Castle/Holland, Yang (if he declares and depending on how his mobility checks out), Pacome (maybe, need to look at his D first)..so I'm clearly going for a bit more upside.

Something to consider may also be advanced stats, to which it seems Masai/IBM's Watson has put emphasis on post-Bruno. Da Silva's advanced stats are fairly lackluster for a senior. It's not a direct indicator, but could be something to note.

On top of that, there's a question if he clearly ends up better than some other role players (Ajinca, Jalen Bridges, Daron Holmes, Harrison Ingram, PJ Hall, Jaylon Tyson, Trevon Brazile) that would be available at the Detroit pick.
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Post#122 » by grant101 » Mon Apr 8, 2024 5:46 pm

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I had such high hopes for Trevon (I thought he had a chance to go in the late lottery - early 20s. Seemed to be a lot more passive, less explosive following his surgery (he had a 10% block rate as a freshman!). I wonder if he regains some of the athleticism as time goes by. Wouldn't mind him as a two-way guy.
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Post#123 » by niQ » Mon Apr 8, 2024 5:53 pm

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How big? How high would he go if eligible?
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Post#124 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Apr 8, 2024 5:55 pm

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How big? How high would he go if eligible?


Top 10 IMO.
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Post#127 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Apr 8, 2024 6:17 pm

Sink for Dink

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Post#128 » by niQ » Mon Apr 8, 2024 6:47 pm

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Does he REALLY have superstar ability? His G-league numbers/percentages aren't that flattering. They're even worse than Scoot's G-league stint...
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Post#129 » by ATLTimekeeper » Mon Apr 8, 2024 6:54 pm

Wasn't he 17 for most of the season? Either way Tony Jones is out to lunch for thinking he could be a consensus #1 overall. I could see a team gambling on him in the top 10, but not take him first. No one's going to Shrink for Dink.
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Post#130 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:06 pm

We would definitely be in on Pate if he enters. I’d go as far to put him as the favourite if we keep the pick.
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Post#131 » by dohboy_24 » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:08 pm

If he's deemed eligible, Dink Pate is exactly the type of prospect you'd want to have the opportunity to select at the top of a draft that is otherwise considered "weak" by most.
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Post#132 » by grant101 » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:15 pm

More talent in the draft is a great thing (though I think it's at least a couple more years before Pate becomes a positive player). He reminds me a little of Jalen Rose, who was ahead of his time prototype-wise (I'm not buying the Penny Hardaway comps). In any case, I seriously doubt the NBA makes an exemption here.
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Post#133 » by niQ » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:25 pm

It's hard to see the NBA making an exception for Pate because of his age though..
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Post#134 » by tdotrep2 » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:32 pm

ill take dink
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Post#135 » by Mark_83 » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:34 pm

Dick and Dink connection coming up.
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Post#136 » by Reeko » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:35 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:Castle at 26% from 3 and 76% from the line doesn't give me hope than he can become a legit shooter who demands attention from the defense. He might become passable and he'll probably be able to hit open shots, but usually great shooters are pretty legit early in their careers. I'm not sure I want to take more non shooters and hope they eventually develop that skill that high in the draft, unless they have a special, unique skillset like Scottie.

So you want us to take Sheppard at 6 is what you're saying.
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Post#137 » by billy_hoyle » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:36 pm

Dick and Dink wing duo could be a perfect combo of sweet stroke, penetration and facials.
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Post#138 » by BoyzNTheHood » Mon Apr 8, 2024 7:44 pm

niQ wrote:It's hard to see the NBA making an exception for Pate because of his age though..

It is. But their program failed him. That should be reason enough to allow him to pursue his dream a year earlier.
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Post#139 » by aminiaturebuddha » Mon Apr 8, 2024 8:04 pm

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Well, my draft targets so far are Castle/Holland, Yang (if he declares and depending on how his mobility checks out), Pacome (maybe, need to look at his D first)..so I'm clearly going for a bit more upside.

On top of that, there's a question if he clearly ends up better than some other role players (Ajinca, Jalen Bridges, Daron Holmes, Harrison Ingram, PJ Hall, Jaylon Tyson, Trevon Brazile) that would be available at the Detroit pick.


I was in on Pacome earlier but have cooled off on him. The more I've seen, the more I think he's purely a catch and shoot guy. He seems a bit stiff to me, and doesn't seem to have much burst to get by guys with a dribble at all. I'm not saying that Da Silva is De'Aron Fox or anything, but he at least is quite capable of making good on advantages created and attacking defenders closing out. Everything with Pacome with the ball in his hands that isn't fast break or catch-and-shoot seems very laboured.

I'm also a fan of Holmes, but I'd be very surprised if he's still there in the 2nd round. He obviously does different things than Da Silva, but he's one of my top targets at the big man spots. I just think they'd need to take him with the Pacers pick, which might be fine if that's the direction they want to take.

I also like Tyson, and he's one of my favourites for that Detroit pick, but is a different kind of player and plays a different role, so I don't see him and someone like Da Silva as mutually exclusive. If the Raps were to draft them both I'd be quite happy. I was bigger on Hall earlier, but have cooled a bit on him as well. His shooting is still mostly theoretical (although I like his quick release), but he forces his game too much for me, and I'm not sure that he has the ball control to play that way.

So yes, there are lots of options. Da Silva remains my favourite at the Pacers pick (unless someone drops unexpectedly), but I'd be happy with a few others as well. And a lot of this might also depend on if the Raps keep a lottery pick, and if so, who they choose to target there.
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Post#140 » by kingz3290 » Mon Apr 8, 2024 8:12 pm

PD28 wrote:
kingz3290 wrote:We'll be drafting this kid with the first pick we have if it falls between #4-6. Watch this, and tell me if this kid doesn't fit perfectly with Scottie's knack for kicking out to the open man on the perimeter on quick swing passes. This opens up our perimeter offense like you've never seen it before. This kid is going to be an All-Star, and he'll be the first elite scorer we've had in years. Exactly what we need. Look how quick his decision making is. As soon as he has the ball, it's constant pressure for whoever is defending him.Even if you want to give Quickley the keys to the car again next year, drafting this kid makes your roster so much more threatening offensively.



Whose your comp for him? I feel like if he has a good combine, he'll def jump up the board.

Gary Payton with better shooting. I'm not joking. If you watch the last 5 minutes of this video, it's just him being relentless on defense - by creating deflections, stripping players, blocking shots, etc., but on offense he doesn't have the crafty automatic post-game Payton has yet - but if you look at how strong he already is, he'll certainly be able to body other smaller guards. Not concerned at all with his ability to develop a floater/post game.

I really worry that we're going to miss this opportunity. This kid is generational. You can't teach shooting, you can't teach defensive effort and knack for always being disruptive in the passing lanes. He has both. It's easy to see a mid-sized guard who is whit and can shoot and think you've seen it all or that he's not athletic enough to handle it. This kid is different.

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