Raptors Realtor wrote:Scase wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:
Well it may not be your job to find the replacement, but if you're able to conclude that he should be replaced, it's because you believe there's someone who can do a better job. You don't replace someone without knowing there's a better person for the job, in any line of work or capacity... The grass isn't always greener, and forums/social media is filled with pessimism and the expectation of instant gratification.
Saying he's been bad for 5 years is disengenuine or just an exaggeration. He was "bad" for about half that amount of time. There's no arguing he became complacent and had a hard time letting go of the players from the championship team, but in the last 18 months or so we've seen a rejuvenated and involved Masai completely reconstructing this team with a lot of solid trades and picks.
If Masai wasn't here, we'd have an even more difficult time attracting 'any' free agents, re-signing players, and we wouldn't even be mentioned as a possible destination to sign or trade for the likes of Giannis... Don't forget the most successful run in this team's history has happened under the fingerprints of Masai... Change for the sake of change isn't a justifiable reason when we're talking about a GM of Masai's calibre and track record, unless there's a clearcut upgrade available, the problem is nobody can name that upgrade.
If a bus driver crashes his bus, am I not allowed to say that he shouldn't continue being a bus driver just because I can't name a replacement? Should I not be able to tell a fireman to not try and put out a fire with gasoline just because I'm not a fireman?This is such a nonsensical argument. You also completely ignored the cost aspect of his replacement, if you think what we've had produced the last 5 years justifies him being the highest paid exec in the league, and that we couldn't produce this level of mediocrity for cheaper, then I don't know what to say. It's a business, and if you think Rogers is going to pay Masai the current contract, or an increase, for what has happened the last 5 years, over hiring someone for a fraction of that amount, I've got a bridge to sell you.
You can call him rejuvinated or whatever you want, but this team has produced nothing viable since the chip. Scottie is the crown jewel of the last 5 years, and as much as I like the kid, he's not taking the team to the promise land. The team has been on a large decline the last 5 years, if you think he's the only exec in the world who could've gotten us where we are now....there's not really any point to this discussion. Hell, even if you take the argument of his last 18mo being better, I still wouldn't re-sign someone who **** the bed the 3-4 years prior just because
now he's rejuvinated. I wouldn't extend someone who can just decide to not give a **** when they want to.
The free agent angle is lowkey hilarious though, Masai has had zero impact on anyone notable coming here, and I don't put that blame on him, that's the nature of the Raps, but lets not act like he's had some major shift or anything.
We heard the "Well there's nobody better" with BC, and magically we found someone, it happened to be Masai. That doesn't mean he's the answer until the heat death of the universe, sometimes you need a change of scenery, new blood, different ideas and so on.
Wow you want to talk about "nonsensical arguments", maybe you should have left out your first paragraph, what kind of comparisons are those... Could you have been any more dissimilar and dramatic?
Not sure why you keep referencing BC, I for one was ready to move on well before, and if I recall, so was the majority of the fanbase/forum. Comparing BC's tenure to Masai's is a massive reach.
There's a reason why I prefaced free agents with "any", did you miss it? ... Because the few free agents we have been able to sign, would likely be even less without Masai's added credibility to the organization and respect around the league.
Ya nobody said he's the answer for eternity, but there has to be a viable upgrade available, which you and everyone else who has complained that he should be fired can't even suggest... So let's just replace him with a Dumars or Landry Fields type, so we can listen to you guys complain with "why did they hire him" or "he's not an upgrade" or "this franchise is such a joke"...
We know the drill, complaining is so much easier than coming up with solutions.
Yeah, lets take your approach of fear of it being worse, definitely more effective.
You act as if the BC tenure was different, no the end just came sooner, but it's the same process. Hope in the beginning, followed by success, then the descent, people claiming it is better than what came before, fear that we can't replace him cause the next person might be worse, then people got sick of the poor performance after long enough to where the opinion shifted to mostly wanting to get rid of him.
Some people reached that last step sooner than others, the fact that you can't see the glaring similarities is kinda sad. Stop trying to compare the 2 GMs, and look at the situations, same trajectory. Just because I didn't name BC as the successor didn't mean that Babcock wasn't that bad and we should keep him.
Masai created these high standards, he isn't living up to them, we shouldn't be scared to try and find someone who is.