What if Giannis chooses and Toronto on short list - Does this change Conversation?

[dohboy_24]

KD is a little different because theoretically the Suns don’t have to rebuild if they trade him. The Bucks almost have zero option but to rebuild because of Dame’s injury and the lack of talent on the roster without Giannis

If the Suns trade KD, their lineup minus the assets they get in return for him would mainly consist of:

Tyus Jones
Bradley Beal
Devin Booker
Grayson Allen
Ryan Dunn
Royce O'Neale
Cody Martin
Oso Ighodaro
Nick Richards
Bol Bol
Mason Plumlee

Other than Devin Booker, who else would the Suns have left to re-tool their roster around if they're not going to go into a full rebuild in the same manner as the Bucks would by trading Giannis?

[Scase]

I just want to see Barnes, Ingram, KD all out there. Maybe it doesn't work and we fail like PHX, but I'd like to try it out.

Because Barnes prefers to create for others over looking for his own shot, I think it's crazy enough to work.

I'm down with that. I had floated the idea of RJ and IQ for KD had we moved up to 1st or 2nd in the lottery. Now that seems a little heavy because our draftee won't be in the starting lineup from the get-go. I don't know what offer would work. I saw Ishbia's season ending presser and he isn't going to care about draft picks anytime soon.

IQ/RJ/#39 plus a future pick probably makes the most sense financially and value wise.

Poeltl
KD
Ingram
Barnes

For the last starter spot, you just play the best guard defender who can knock down some open shots. Maybe Walter?

I could actually get behind this, I think Ochai would fit in well in that spot.

[Pointgod]

KD is a little different because theoretically the Suns don’t have to rebuild if they trade him. The Bucks almost have zero option but to rebuild because of Dame’s injury and the lack of talent on the roster without Giannis

If the Suns trade KD, their lineup minus the assets they get in return for him would mainly consist of:

Tyus Jones
Bradley Beal
Devin Booker
Grayson Allen
Ryan Dunn
Royce O'Neale
Cody Martin
Oso Ighodaro
Nick Richards
Bol Bol
Mason Plumlee

Other than Devin Booker, who else would the Suns have left to re-tool their roster around if they're not going to go into a full rebuild in the same manner as the Bucks would by trading Giannis?

Booker is probably too good for the Suns bottom out as a bottom 5 team. They’re a really weird team who will probably get better by trading Durant for some size and inside presence. The most important thing is that they only have Beal on the books for two seasons and then he becomes a massive expiring contract.

[dohboy_24]

Booker is probably too good for the Suns bottom out as a bottom 5 team. They’re a really weird team who will probably get better by trading Durant for some size and inside presence.

This season, Devin Booker had a WinShare score of 6.4. While that was the highest on the Suns, it ranked him at #44 in the entire NBA - just behind former Raptors Pascal Siakim (#30) with a 7.5 WS, DeMar DeRozan (#35) with a 7.1 WS, and OG Anunoby (#43) with a 6.5 WS.

It would depend on what they get back for Durant, but I'm not convinced that a team lead by Devin Booker as the #1 guy is able to make the playoffs over the next few years - especially when they couldn't even make them this year with KD on the squad.

The most important thing is that they only have Beal on the books for two seasons and then he becomes a massive expiring contract.

Beal still has a no trade clause so whether his contract is expiring or not, he can still veto any deal.

[djsunyc]

no way would i trade #9 for KD, especially if giving up iq and rj as well. i think the KD return will be much lower than anticipated unless it's to a team with a huge surplus of picks they can afford to move. we can not swap 3 players for 1 even if it is KD. i think he is showing some signs of slowing down and it can fall rather quickly pun intended.

[mihaic]

Iq, rj, one pick/swaps forBooker
Scottie, signed #9, Dick picks for Giannis

The 2 packages to use for the trades have some interchangeable parts.

Booker/Shead/2way
Ochai/Jakobe/Booker
Ingram/vet min/2way
Gianis/Mogbo/Boucher on vet min
Yak/Chomche/2nd round

Probably top 4 in the east with a good chance to go to east finals.

[JB7]

no way would i trade #9 for KD, especially if giving up iq and rj as well. i think the KD return will be much lower than anticipated unless it's to a team with a huge surplus of picks they can afford to move. we can not swap 3 players for 1 even if it is KD. i think he is showing some signs of slowing down and it can fall rather quickly pun intended.

I saw somewhere, there was the idea that the Sixers might offer the 3rd overall pick & PG to the Suns for KD.

I don't think KD is worth the Raps interest at this time. Giannis makes a bit more sense, as they would have a few years with him, still at superstar levels.

[OakleyDokely]

KD is still great. Don't let the mess in PHX cloud your judgement of him. Basically everyone in PHX underachieved but him.

He put up 26 PPG on 52/43/84 splits with a 64 TS%. Plus, he played a respectable 62 games (and 75 the year before). If he goes to the right situation, he can still be a #1 championship option.

[Raptorfan2012]

no way would i trade #9 for KD, especially if giving up iq and rj as well. i think the KD return will be much lower than anticipated unless it's to a team with a huge surplus of picks they can afford to move. we can not swap 3 players for 1 even if it is KD. i think he is showing some signs of slowing down and it can fall rather quickly pun intended.

I saw somewhere, there was the idea that the Sixers might offer the 3rd overall pick & PG to the Suns for KD.

I don't think KD is worth the Raps interest at this time. Giannis makes a bit more sense, as they would have a few years with him, still at superstar levels.

Yikes, if I were the Suns, I would take this and run. KD is cooked for the most part, though I can see teams like the Knicks, OKC, GSW etc try to add KD for one more kick at the Championship.

[WuTang_OG]

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[WuTang_OG]

With BOS taking a step back next season, I would do a KD trade if the price was cheap enough

[mihaic]

With BOS taking a step back next season, I would do a KD trade if the price was cheap enough

Needs salary matching
Scottie
Or
Rj,Iq

Unless u trade Ingram
or Poeltl and create a C hole.

[MiamiSPX]

With BOS taking a step back next season, I would do a KD trade if the price was cheap enough

Needs salary matching
Scottie
Or
Rj,Iq

Unless u trade Ingram
or Poeltl and create a C hole.

Masai wouldn't trade Barnes for KD before. He certainly won't now with KD being 2 years older, even with Barnes not taking a leap.

[WuTang_OG]

With BOS taking a step back next season, I would do a KD trade if the price was cheap enough

Needs salary matching
Scottie
Or
Rj,Iq

Unless u trade Ingram
or Poeltl and create a C hole.

Masai wouldn't trade Barnes for KD before. He certainly won't now with KD being 2 years older, even with Barnes not taking a leap.

yeah, wont happen. KD is turning 37 too.

You make the KD deal if you can rip off PHX and make them take a package centred around RJ, IQ

[JB7]

Needs salary matching
Scottie
Or
Rj,Iq

Unless u trade Ingram
or Poeltl and create a C hole.

Masai wouldn't trade Barnes for KD before. He certainly won't now with KD being 2 years older, even with Barnes not taking a leap.

yeah, wont happen. KD is turning 37 too.

You make the KD deal if you can rip off PHX and make them take a package centred around RJ, IQ

But does that even make the Raps any better? They lose depth, and now Scottie and BI are taking a backseat to KD.

A Giannis deal centered around Scottie makes more sense. They keep their depth, and just replace Scottie's role with a superstar version.

[WuTang_OG]

Masai wouldn't trade Barnes for KD before. He certainly won't now with KD being 2 years older, even with Barnes not taking a leap.

yeah, wont happen. KD is turning 37 too.

You make the KD deal if you can rip off PHX and make them take a package centred around RJ, IQ

But does that even make the Raps any better? They lose depth, and now Scottie and BI are taking a backseat to KD.

A Giannis deal centered around Scottie makes more sense. They keep their depth, and just replace Scottie's role with a superstar version.

Losing RJ and IQ for KD?

Uh yeah that makes us better.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

yeah, wont happen. KD is turning 37 too.

You make the KD deal if you can rip off PHX and make them take a package centred around RJ, IQ

But does that even make the Raps any better? They lose depth, and now Scottie and BI are taking a backseat to KD.

A Giannis deal centered around Scottie makes more sense. They keep their depth, and just replace Scottie's role with a superstar version.

Losing RJ and IQ for KD?

Uh yeah that makes us better.

A top 3 of Giannis, BI, Quickly

Vs

A top 3 of KD, Barnes, and BI?

Phew! Can't believe we are even having the conversation.

[JB7]

But does that even make the Raps any better? They lose depth, and now Scottie and BI are taking a backseat to KD.

A Giannis deal centered around Scottie makes more sense. They keep their depth, and just replace Scottie's role with a superstar version.

Losing RJ and IQ for KD?

Uh yeah that makes us better.

A top 3 of Giannis, BI, Quickly

Vs

A top 3 of KD, Barnes, and BI?

Phew! Can't believe we are even having the conversation.

A 37 yr old KD. What that makes them a great team for one or 2 years?

[Pointgod]

no way would i trade #9 for KD, especially if giving up iq and rj as well. i think the KD return will be much lower than anticipated unless it's to a team with a huge surplus of picks they can afford to move. we can not swap 3 players for 1 even if it is KD. i think he is showing some signs of slowing down and it can fall rather quickly pun intended.

I saw somewhere, there was the idea that the Sixers might offer the 3rd overall pick & PG to the Suns for KD.

I don't think KD is worth the Raps interest at this time. Giannis makes a bit more sense, as they would have a few years with him, still at superstar levels.

That’s stupidity if the Sixers did that.

[JB7]

no way would i trade #9 for KD, especially if giving up iq and rj as well. i think the KD return will be much lower than anticipated unless it's to a team with a huge surplus of picks they can afford to move. we can not swap 3 players for 1 even if it is KD. i think he is showing some signs of slowing down and it can fall rather quickly pun intended.

I saw somewhere, there was the idea that the Sixers might offer the 3rd overall pick & PG to the Suns for KD.

I don't think KD is worth the Raps interest at this time. Giannis makes a bit more sense, as they would have a few years with him, still at superstar levels.

That’s stupidity if the Sixers did that.

It is Morey. Could be desperate, trying to correct the mess he created last offseason.