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billy_hoyle wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Psubs wrote:
Probably Asa Newell at #23. Would love a shot at Peterson, Dybansta, Boozer, Ament and Mikel BrownJr.
Yeah Newell or Jase (Although i think Jase will be the better player) + that 2026 pick would have been more valuable than just having CMB....Love CMB but looking back not accepting that trade offer could cost us big time....Hawks are in such a good position now to pivot off Trae. If Hawks get lucky and land the #1 pick i will be pretty upset.
That's actually not the worst case scenario.
Imagine we were still able to get CMB by trading back up a little from that 23rd pick. I'm not certain where CMB goes if we don't take him 9. I think there's a chance he slides.
Does OKC or San Antonio take Ochai and 23 to move up and take CMB? Maybe
Then we basically traded Ochai for a top 10 pick in this draft.


Clutch0z24 wrote:
Draft is so stacked this year. We really tanked in the wrong draft and trying to compete in the wrong year....We could of got a legit superstar from this class so much talent
Son Goku 25 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Draft is so stacked this year. We really tanked in the wrong draft and trying to compete in the wrong year....We could of got a legit superstar from this class so much talent
That's the story of the Raptors, always has been unfortunately. At least we won it all though so guess that overtakes anything else.

DreamTeam09 wrote:billy_hoyle wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Yeah Newell or Jase (Although i think Jase will be the better player) + that 2026 pick would have been more valuable than just having CMB....Love CMB but looking back not accepting that trade offer could cost us big time....Hawks are in such a good position now to pivot off Trae. If Hawks get lucky and land the #1 pick i will be pretty upset.
That's actually not the worst case scenario.
Imagine we were still able to get CMB by trading back up a little from that 23rd pick. I'm not certain where CMB goes if we don't take him 9. I think there's a chance he slides.
Does OKC or San Antonio take Ochai and 23 to move up and take CMB? Maybe
Then we basically traded Ochai for a top 10 pick in this draft.
remember this is all happening in real time. We went thru an entire draft cycle process, narrowed in on a player for our team needs/potential future and then at the last second supposedly got an offer to move down 14 whole spots for a future 1st.
Then you guys wanna try and circle back up into the draft all in real-time.
Now personally I would've done it, and Newell was on the board, he fits a need for us. But I can't fault for taking your guy either,

Clutch0z24 wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:billy_hoyle wrote:
That's actually not the worst case scenario.
Imagine we were still able to get CMB by trading back up a little from that 23rd pick. I'm not certain where CMB goes if we don't take him 9. I think there's a chance he slides.
Does OKC or San Antonio take Ochai and 23 to move up and take CMB? Maybe
Then we basically traded Ochai for a top 10 pick in this draft.
remember this is all happening in real time. We went thru an entire draft cycle process, narrowed in on a player for our team needs/potential future and then at the last second supposedly got an offer to move down 14 whole spots for a future 1st.
Then you guys wanna try and circle back up into the draft all in real-time.
Now personally I would've done it, and Newell was on the board, he fits a need for us. But I can't fault for taking your guy either,
I don't think there is any excuses for the front office not pulling the trigger on that trade when it was offered to us....Pelicans are in the West + never showed in the last while to be a good winning team. Even if you wanted CMB he is not on that level to turn down such a great trade.
We also moved down during that draft Lottery ending up 9th in the draft we offered the pick + Barrett for Derrick White....I mean if you are going to do that kind of a trade why in the hell would you turn down that Pelicans trade....Just a boneheaded move which could cost us and make the Hawks all that much more harder to beat in the future.
Just feels like the front office in Raptors land has been 1 step behind every single time when it comes to asset management for a while now.
Clutch0z24 wrote:Psubs wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Damn man looking back at it. We prolly could of had that Pelicans pick this year if we wanted since they offered us their 2026 pick for the 9th pick....If you told me at last years draft you could have a top 5 pick in the 2026 draft, And a player like Jase Richardson at 23rd and gave up CMB i would take that deal with a big smile on my face.
Hawks are going to end up with a great player.
Probably Asa Newell at #23. Would love a shot at Peterson, Dybansta, Boozer, Ament and Mikel BrownJr.
Yeah Newell or Jase (Although i think Jase will be the better player) + that 2026 pick would have been more valuable than just having CMB....Love CMB but looking back not accepting that trade offer could cost us big time....Hawks are in such a good position now to pivot off Trae. If Hawks get lucky and land the #1 pick i will be pretty upset.

Son Goku 25 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Draft is so stacked this year. We really tanked in the wrong draft and trying to compete in the wrong year....We could of got a legit superstar from this class so much talent
That's the story of the Raptors, always has been unfortunately. At least we won it all though so guess that overtakes anything else.
Psubs wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Psubs wrote:
Probably Asa Newell at #23. Would love a shot at Peterson, Dybansta, Boozer, Ament and Mikel BrownJr.
Yeah Newell or Jase (Although i think Jase will be the better player) + that 2026 pick would have been more valuable than just having CMB....Love CMB but looking back not accepting that trade offer could cost us big time....Hawks are in such a good position now to pivot off Trae. If Hawks get lucky and land the #1 pick i will be pretty upset.
With CMB showing signs of a decent 3pt shot, he has Kawhi potential on offense and above average on defense.

Clutch0z24 wrote:Psubs wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Yeah Newell or Jase (Although i think Jase will be the better player) + that 2026 pick would have been more valuable than just having CMB....Love CMB but looking back not accepting that trade offer could cost us big time....Hawks are in such a good position now to pivot off Trae. If Hawks get lucky and land the #1 pick i will be pretty upset.
With CMB showing signs of a decent 3pt shot, he has Kawhi potential on offense and above average on defense.
Thats an absurd comp lol....The guy has not shown nearly enough to be compared to Kawhi.....Prime Kawhi is best player in the NBA tier....CMB will be lucky to get on the Draymond Green tier imo....CMB is good but hes not that good.
bluerap23 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Psubs wrote:
With CMB showing signs of a decent 3pt shot, he has Kawhi potential on offense and above average on defense.
Thats an absurd comp lol....The guy has not shown nearly enough to be compared to Kawhi.....Prime Kawhi is best player in the NBA tier....CMB will be lucky to get on the Draymond Green tier imo....CMB is good but hes not that good.
Draymond with a legit 3pt shot is an mvp candidate. I’m not sold CMB is an actual 3pt shooter but if he is we are talking about a very special player that def has potential to be All-NBA. There is always infatuation with future draft picks but those are just a roll of the dice. CMB is a legit NBA player with serious potential. A bird in the hand

Clutch0z24 wrote:bluerap23 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Thats an absurd comp lol....The guy has not shown nearly enough to be compared to Kawhi.....Prime Kawhi is best player in the NBA tier....CMB will be lucky to get on the Draymond Green tier imo....CMB is good but hes not that good.
Draymond with a legit 3pt shot is an mvp candidate. I’m not sold CMB is an actual 3pt shooter but if he is we are talking about a very special player that def has potential to be All-NBA. There is always infatuation with future draft picks but those are just a roll of the dice. CMB is a legit NBA player with serious potential. A bird in the hand
CMB has a long long way to go to be even mentioned in with these names.....Hes got potential but need to relax on the comps....We always overhype our players to the moon and they do not end up becoming what we hype them up to be.
Im pretty sure anyone that is smart would take a top 5 pick in the 2026 draft + the 23rd pick in last years draft over CMB. CMB is not that good to give up on that value....Who even knows where CMB would be picked in the 2026 Draft alone....Theres prolly alot of players that would be ahead of him.
ATLTimekeeper wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:bluerap23 wrote:
Draymond with a legit 3pt shot is an mvp candidate. I’m not sold CMB is an actual 3pt shooter but if he is we are talking about a very special player that def has potential to be All-NBA. There is always infatuation with future draft picks but those are just a roll of the dice. CMB is a legit NBA player with serious potential. A bird in the hand
CMB has a long long way to go to be even mentioned in with these names.....Hes got potential but need to relax on the comps....We always overhype our players to the moon and they do not end up becoming what we hype them up to be.
Im pretty sure anyone that is smart would take a top 5 pick in the 2026 draft + the 23rd pick in last years draft over CMB. CMB is not that good to give up on that value....Who even knows where CMB would be picked in the 2026 Draft alone....Theres prolly alot of players that would be ahead of him.
Might I recommend you listen to yourself here and apply it to prospects in general. You have the wisdom.

ATLTimekeeper wrote:I get the reason to be excited but in reality there are rarely two superstars at the top of the draft. Let alone 5, or whatever. It doesn't matter how much you watch, that's just the math of it. I think it's closer to 1 superstar every other draft in the top 5.
The bird in the hand strategy is definitely a good one.

Clutch0z24 wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
CMB has a long long way to go to be even mentioned in with these names.....Hes got potential but need to relax on the comps....We always overhype our players to the moon and they do not end up becoming what we hype them up to be.
Im pretty sure anyone that is smart would take a top 5 pick in the 2026 draft + the 23rd pick in last years draft over CMB. CMB is not that good to give up on that value....Who even knows where CMB would be picked in the 2026 Draft alone....Theres prolly alot of players that would be ahead of him.
Might I recommend you listen to yourself here and apply it to prospects in general. You have the wisdom.
I don't think i ever call players the next Kawhi based off a few NBA games here lol....I may say some players look or have a sim play style but to say they could be as good or on that level....I do not say that...
There is reason to be excited for the 2026 draft class because i watch the college games myself and watch alot of the prospects games and i can see that alot of these guys are on a different level....Lots of talent in the top parts of this draft....Actual guys you could put in that future superstar class.
CMB imo has really good starter upside and a glue type guy....Not a Kawhi level type....Its same when people say Barnes will be Giannis....Its over hyping guys to set them up to fail. I am pretty realistic with what level players can reach and most the times its pretty obvious just by watching them play enough times.
Los_29 wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
Might I recommend you listen to yourself here and apply it to prospects in general. You have the wisdom.
I don't think i ever call players the next Kawhi based off a few NBA games here lol....I may say some players look or have a sim play style but to say they could be as good or on that level....I do not say that...
There is reason to be excited for the 2026 draft class because i watch the college games myself and watch alot of the prospects games and i can see that alot of these guys are on a different level....Lots of talent in the top parts of this draft....Actual guys you could put in that future superstar class.
CMB imo has really good starter upside and a glue type guy....Not a Kawhi level type....Its same when people say Barnes will be Giannis....Its over hyping guys to set them up to fail. I am pretty realistic with what level players can reach and most the times its pretty obvious just by watching them play enough times.
This is just simply not true. You overrate draft prospects and players on other teams. For example, you said that drafting Scoot would turn our team into a dynasty. Last year you said the 2025 draft class was riddled with talent and that it’d be devastating to miss out on a game changing talent like Bailey and Flagg.
