OT: Blue Jays beat Yankees, move on to ALCS

[Ackshun]

lol go watch another sport.

They do this with basketball to lol

What exactly was i doing? I posted this the moment it happend. They **** the bed in the first 2 games which they did. They were in a tight game in a HUGE high pressure situation trying to avoid a sweep...I never implied anything ....maybe some of you need to find something else to do. You think everyone is some kind of troll or manic depressive, this site might have you jaded

I'm a baseball lifer, im sure neither of you can tell me anything about it

They were down 3-1 for most of the game. Not sure how being up in the 9th is “shtting the bed”.

Is it really that terrible that they went 1-2 against one of the best teams in baseball ?

[ratul]

I hate shats so this is annoying. But glad for the team!

How broken does one's brain need to be to be upset the team they cheer for is winning because of some weird hate for the guys that sit in offices?

Read what I wrote.

[ratul]

Went yesterday. Near third base line. Berrios was bitching at Kirk after being awful. Berrios is such a baby. Bieber can take his place!

[DelAbbot]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Nimmala is like Gradey Dick level prospect

[Thaddy]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Nimmala is like Gradey Dick level prospect

How long do you think they keep him in Vancouver?

[LoveMyRaps]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Nimmala is like Gradey Dick level prospect

I'm honestly not that high on him.

[bluerap23]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Nimmala is like Gradey Dick level prospect

I'm honestly not that high on him.

He's ranked a top 50 prospect by Baseball America and MLB pipeline as a 19 year old. Has real power and will likely be able to stick defensively at SS. He's cut his strikeouts and started walking more. That is real growth for someone so young. He is legit.

[ontnut]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Technically, Trey Yesavage is our #1 prospect (ranked #26), and JoJo Parker is ranked higher too (#41 vs #51). We probably won't see Parker or Nimmala for another 3 seasons at minimum though, barring some major major leaps. Trey didn't do great in AAA, so might still be another year or 2 away from the bigs (if ever). I think Tiedemann probably ranks higher than both Parker/Nimmala if he wasn't injured.

None of the 3 are surefire prospects (I think Tiedemann probably had the most hype among them though). The thing with baseball prospects is that judging how they'll perform at the next level is way harder than it is for basketball prospects. Unless they're a true can't-miss prospect like a Bryce Harper or Kris Bryant or Vladdy, they often have to work their way up slowly and not only fit the role the team wants them to play, but also not be blocked at their position by an incumbent player. Kind of how we traded away Gabe Moreno for Varsho, because we already had Kirk at C.

[ontnut]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Prospects in the MLB are completely different than the NBA.

Nimmala is the leagues 44tb top prospect and isn’t expected to be a MLB call up until 2028. So much changes in 3 years that he could end up being a stud or not even an everyday player.

https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects

Just go back and look at the top prospects from 3, 5, 10 years ago and how their leagues panned out

https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/2020/bluejays/

Here’s our top 10 from 5 years ago. Only Kirk ever became a good player for us.

TBF Manoah was great for 2 seasons (3rd in AL Cy Young in 2022), and wasn't bad last year either, in limited IP. Injuries have cost him, but he's still got a path to the playoff roster for us THIS season.
Pearson was a huge disappointment considering how much stock we put into him. SWR has been serviceable at the MLB level for the Twins, and Moreno is a legit platoon C.
But yeah - tough as hell to predict which prospect is going to even make the MLB, let alone be good, or a franchise level cornerstone like Scottie, in the big show.

[beanbag]

I hate shats so this is annoying. But glad for the team!

How broken does one's brain need to be to be upset the team they cheer for is winning because of some weird hate for the guys that sit in offices?

Read what I wrote.

Reading what you wrote is precisely why I wrote what I wrote.

[ratul]

How broken does one's brain need to be to be upset the team they cheer for is winning because of some weird hate for the guys that sit in offices?

Read what I wrote.

Reading what you wrote is precisely why I wrote what I wrote.

Apparently nuance is impossible in your world. I guess you like the beer prices and the price of your cable bill too because they support your team. I don’t believe in shats but doesn’t stop me from supporting the team/going to games. See, not that hard. Nuance my guy.

[raptorforlife88]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Technically, Trey Yesavage is our #1 prospect (ranked #26), and JoJo Parker is ranked higher too (#41 vs #51). We probably won't see Parker or Nimmala for another 3 seasons at minimum though, barring some major major leaps. Trey didn't do great in AAA, so might still be another year or 2 away from the bigs (if ever). I think Tiedemann probably ranks higher than both Parker/Nimmala if he wasn't injured.

None of the 3 are surefire prospects (I think Tiedemann probably had the most hype among them though). The thing with baseball prospects is that judging how they'll perform at the next level is way harder than it is for basketball prospects. Unless they're a true can't-miss prospect like a Bryce Harper or Kris Bryant or Vladdy, they often have to work their way up slowly and not only fit the role the team wants them to play, but also not be blocked at their position by an incumbent player. Kind of how we traded away Gabe Moreno for Varsho, because we already had Kirk at C.

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

[ontnut]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Technically, Trey Yesavage is our #1 prospect (ranked #26), and JoJo Parker is ranked higher too (#41 vs #51). We probably won't see Parker or Nimmala for another 3 seasons at minimum though, barring some major major leaps. Trey didn't do great in AAA, so might still be another year or 2 away from the bigs (if ever). I think Tiedemann probably ranks higher than both Parker/Nimmala if he wasn't injured.

None of the 3 are surefire prospects (I think Tiedemann probably had the most hype among them though). The thing with baseball prospects is that judging how they'll perform at the next level is way harder than it is for basketball prospects. Unless they're a true can't-miss prospect like a Bryce Harper or Kris Bryant or Vladdy, they often have to work their way up slowly and not only fit the role the team wants them to play, but also not be blocked at their position by an incumbent player. Kind of how we traded away Gabe Moreno for Varsho, because we already had Kirk at C.

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

[Raps in 4]

I recently started getting into baseball. How do I learn more about the sport and the Jays? Is Nimmala a Barnes level prospect or more like Walter level? I saw that he's their highest ranked prospect.

Nimmala is like Gradey Dick level prospect

The #1 rule of prospect evaluations is that they almost never pan out. A strong farm system just means that a team will have higher odds of developing actual MLB talent (even if most of their prospects are busts, it's an odds game in baseball). Highly ranked prospects are also good trade fodder.

Not infrequently, top prospects end up being busts while junk-tier prospects end up breaking out. I'd imagine that the prospect rankings of organizations that have good scouting differ dramatically from the publicly available prospect rankings.

[LoveMyRaps]

Sending Lauer to the pen before Berrios or Bassitt is sheer stupidity.

[ratul]

Sending Lauer to the pen before Berrios or Bassitt is sheer stupidity.

The berrios thing worries me most. His contract is problematic so we ending up having to keep him in when prob he needs to go to pen for now. Scherzer will command bread so we will need to bring back berrios into fold anyway. I dunno. I like both lauer and bassit but don’t know.

[beanbag]

Read what I wrote.

Reading what you wrote is precisely why I wrote what I wrote.

Apparently nuance is impossible in your world. I guess you like the beer prices and the price of your cable bill too because they support your team. I don’t believe in shats but doesn’t stop me from supporting the team/going to games. See, not that hard. Nuance my guy.

Except the team being good and you enjoying THAT is directly related to the people you don't support and that makes less than zero sense, my guy

[Tripod]

Technically, Trey Yesavage is our #1 prospect (ranked #26), and JoJo Parker is ranked higher too (#41 vs #51). We probably won't see Parker or Nimmala for another 3 seasons at minimum though, barring some major major leaps. Trey didn't do great in AAA, so might still be another year or 2 away from the bigs (if ever). I think Tiedemann probably ranks higher than both Parker/Nimmala if he wasn't injured.

None of the 3 are surefire prospects (I think Tiedemann probably had the most hype among them though). The thing with baseball prospects is that judging how they'll perform at the next level is way harder than it is for basketball prospects. Unless they're a true can't-miss prospect like a Bryce Harper or Kris Bryant or Vladdy, they often have to work their way up slowly and not only fit the role the team wants them to play, but also not be blocked at their position by an incumbent player. Kind of how we traded away Gabe Moreno for Varsho, because we already had Kirk at C.

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

But the way you said it "he didn't do good in AAA" certainly makes it seem like he has been there for a bit....not just 1 start.

That's the big issue with what you said...what it implies.

[ontnut]

What? Yesavage had one start in AAA and it went poorly and that is hardly indicative of not doing great in AAA, and it definitely is not indicative of being a year or two away. That's wild. He's gonna be in the majors at some point next year. It doesn't mean he's going to be successful in the majors cause that's the nature of baseball prospects, but he's going to be in the majors sooner than later.

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

But the way you said it "he didn't do good in AAA" certainly makes it seem like he has been there for a bit....not just 1 start.

That's the big issue with what you said...what it implies.

OK...
Did he or did he not do great in his AAA appearance? If he does better in his second appearance, I will re-evaluate my opinion. But he did really poorly, which indicates he's not yet ready. 4 walks and 2 ER in 1.2 innings is bad. Bad control overall. Strikes guys out which is good, but he's wild. Which is fine - he's just turned 22 years old. The average MLB debut age for a SP is 24-25, so on average he's still 2-3 years away. I gave him 1-2 years because of his hype and the fact he already got a AAA callup. I really don't see the issue here lol.

I said he's 1-2 years away. Raptorforlife88 says he'll be in the majors at some point "NEXT YEAR". Is next year not 1 year away? LMFAO.

[Tripod]

Well he's gotta do better at AAA to get the call up. He might make an appearance next year, but WHEN, is also a question: which is why I said a year OR 2 away. If he fails at AAA again, does he get called up anyway? Maybe if there's injury but it's not a given esp if we're competing.

But the way you said it "he didn't do good in AAA" certainly makes it seem like he has been there for a bit....not just 1 start.

That's the big issue with what you said...what it implies.

OK...
Did he or did he not do great in his AAA appearance? If he does better in his second appearance, I will re-evaluate my opinion. But he did really poorly, which indicates he's not yet ready. 4 walks and 2 ER in 1.2 innings is bad. Bad control overall. Strikes guys out which is good, but he's wild. Which is fine - he's just turned 22 years old. The average MLB debut age for a SP is 24-25, so on average he's still 2-3 years away. I gave him 1-2 years because of his hype and the fact he already got a AAA callup. I really don't see the issue here lol.

I said he's 1-2 years away. Raptorforlife88 says he'll be in the majors at some point "NEXT YEAR". Is next year not 1 year away? LMFAO.

again...how you said it implied he has been in AAA for awhile and played poorly. And that's not what has happened.

Coming to ANY conclusion based off 1 game is dumb. Also, go look how his game 1 in A and AA went.

You are not wrong saying he could be 1-2 years away. But you 100% could have worded the sentence I pointed out differently...like adding the work "debut".

But let's move on. His play going forward will dictate his future.